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#1151
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There's no reason to limit our-self to our friends list for npc romance, it could be like in origins with Dairren, Iona, Gorim, Isabela, Cammen, Gheyna, Bella, Kaitlyn, um...err..Teli and Mardy....oh yes and Desire demon. No need for 2/2/2 with a host of possibilities like this. 

I wouldn't call those romances, though. Those were more flings.



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Two LIs by Gaider, one by Mary Kirby and one by Weeks. It leaves two more LIs. Plus Hepler wrote one companion-LI, though it is possible it was Cullen and because she left Gaider finished his story. Also Scribbles gotta be LI since Cullen the NPC is LI as well.
One-two LIs writer(s) left
It reminds me of math way too much

David Gaider definitely confirmed 2 romances. Cassandra is one and I agree with the theory about Cullen. Gaider wrote Cole, you know he would have. That puts his second romance on a NPC LI. I think it is probably a re-write of Cullen.

 

I don't know if Mary Kirby is confirmed a LI writer.

 

I know people in the Solas thread were talking a while back about how Weekes made a tweet about needing sad music for a romance plot, or something? I think Solas probably is written by Weekes. It makes a lot of sense that Solas would tie in to The Masked Empire. I didn't see the tweet myself, though, so can't comment on that.



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It also allows for more variety in the interactions.  If you can interact with them in the camp, they can discuss the questline for that region as it progresses and, depending on the story, possibly have a larger role by accompanying you at some point (not as a companion, more like a "they show up in the climatic scene/dialogue" kind of thing).  Then, when you come back to the Keep, there could be an additional set of interactions. 

 

Though it would be cool with Cullen and Leliana were temp companions on an important mission, and Scribe Girl be like Brooks from Citadel DLC



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Though it would be cool with Cullen and Leliana were temp companions on an important mission, and Scribe Girl be like Brooks from Citadel DLC

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It'd be even funnier if she had the same VA :P



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It also allows for more variety in the interactions.  If you can interact with them in the camp, they can discuss the questline for that region as it progresses and, depending on the story, possibly have a larger role by accompanying you at some point (not as a companion, more like a "they show up in the climatic scene/dialogue" kind of thing).  Then, when you come back to the Keep, there could be an additional set of interactions. 

Well, those things could happen. I guess it's mostly just that I don't think those things happening require you to see them in camp and seeing them in camp doesn't confirm they will happen.

 

I'm just still really skeptical about NPC romances, I guess. People list a lot of things they could do, like showing up to help out on missions, but they just as easily could.. not do that? I mean, they could pretty easily just be slightly better versions of ME3 NPCs. I expect them to have about the same amount of romantic dialog as other LIs and to give you quests, but I don't know if I really expect as much extra stuff as people are suggesting. It could happen.

 

I admit, though, that I could be letting bias taint my view, because I'm just never going to like a romance plot as much when I can't take them on quests. It's really important to the dynamic, to me. NPC romances, at best, can be "this is pretty good, but would be better if they were companions" to me. 


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I'm trying really hard to be optimistic about NPC romances, but seeing Cullen in the war table lineup in his spiffy new duds and knowing I won't be able to fight alongside him... ;_;

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It'd be even funnier if she had the same VA :P

I wouldn't mind that. Brooks had a great voice. 



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Oh here's another fun thought. If the Warden never romanced Leliana, she would be open game. Ohh, I love such thoughts.

 

Also Hinata, who says I can't be romantic with my flings  ;)  (Also apparently all those people I listed are placed under the romance page in the wiki, glad I could remember them all. Excluding the Pearl workers...but they don't have name so they don't count)   



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It's actually kind of funny from a narrative sense that Cullen and Leliana go along with you to camp and then just stand around. Especially Leliana. Like, she fought a freaking Arch Demon. I would logically want her on my front lines. Who has a better resume than this? lol


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I wouldn't mind that. Brooks had a great voice. 

 

I liked her voice too, now I hope Scribe girl does have her voice :(



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Well, those things could happen. I guess it's mostly just that I don't think those things happening require you to see them in camp and seeing them in camp doesn't confirm they will happen.

 

I'm just still really skeptical about NPC romances, I guess. People list a lot of things they could do, like showing up to help out on missions, but they just as easily could.. not do that? I mean, they could pretty easily just be slightly better versions of ME3 NPCs. I expect them to have about the same amount of romantic dialog as other LIs and to give you quests, but I don't know if I really expect as much extra stuff as people are suggesting. It could happen.

 

I admit, though, that I could be letting bias taint my view, because I'm just never going to like a romance plot as much when I can't take them on quests. It's really important to the dynamic, to me. NPC romances, at best, can be "this is pretty good, but would be better if they were companions" to me. 

To be fair, that works for most companion romances too. The companion Li could comment on something during a quest, or remain silent. 



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You don't have to leave the region, I guess. 

 

Well I mean, look at DA:O. You often had to go back to camp or "somewhere private" to have the more meaningful conversations anyways, yes? I mean, we'll miss out on banter but otherwise it could end up fairly similar.

 

Our companions might even tease us about our LIs who aren't with us at the time, who knows?



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Oh here's another fun thought. If the Warden never romanced Leliana, she would be open game. Ohh, I love such thoughts.

 

Also Hinata, who says I can't be romantic with my flings  ;)  (Also apparently all those people I listed are placed under the romance page in the wiki, glad I could remember them all. Excluding the Pearl workers...but they don't have name so they don't count)   

Bioware said characters who were LIs will not be again. 

 

By romance, I mean have a whole romance subplot instead of a one night deal. The ones who grant you the achievement, I suppose. 



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David Gaider definitely confirmed 2 romances. Cassandra is one and I agree with the theory about Cullen. Gaider wrote Cole, you know he would have. That puts his second romance on a NPC LI. I think it is probably a re-write of Cullen.

I don't know if Mary Kirby is confirmed a LI writer.

I know people in the Solas thread were talking a while back about how Weekes made a tweet about needing sad music for a romance plot, or something? I think Solas probably is written by Weekes. It makes a lot of sense that Solas would tie in to The Masked Empire. I didn't see the tweet myself, though, so can't comment on that.

It is interesting to note that there is a chance one of Gaider's LIs will,.. How do you say it in English? Come out? Since both Cassandra and Cullen are pretty popular that would cause quite a chaos
Cole is unlikely as Gaider himself stated the guy has a child-like mind.
Both Kirby and Weeks tweeted about romance writing a bit. Solas is possible, though there were hints that he writes IB

#1166
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I liked her voice too, now I hope Scribe girl does have her voice :(

Yeah. Or have the voice of Simmons from Marvel's Agents of SHIELD. I feel it would be a good fit for some reason. 

 

 

Well I mean, look at DA:O. You often had to go back to camp or "somewhere private" to have the more meaningful conversations anyways, yes? I mean, we'll miss out on banter but otherwise it could end up fairly similar.

 

Our companions might even tease us about our LIs who aren't with us at the time, who knows?

Oh, I agree. I'm all for NPC romances.

 

Well, they teased the LIs in the last two games. 



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To be fair, that works for most companion romances too. The companion Li could comment on something during a quest, or remain silent. 

The thing, for me, is just that being there makes the bond stronger. It's the fact that we both saw all of this (inevitably mostly horrible) stuff together and fought through it together. We were both present when all the important decisions were made. The results of the game feel like more of a collaboration. It's just an element that makes the LI character feel like more of a part of my version of the story and of my character's life. 

 

I totally understand that this isn't the experience that everyone wants. Some people like the "someone to come home to" narrative. I respect that. It's just not my thing.


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The thing, for me, is just that being there makes the bond stronger. It's the fact that we both saw all of this (inevitably mostly horrible) stuff together and fought through it together. We were both present when all the important decisions were made. The results of the game feel like more of a collaboration. It's just an element that makes the LI character feel like more of a part of my version of the story and of my character's life. 

 

I totally understand that this isn't the experience that everyone wants. Some people like the "someone to come home to" narrative. I respect that. It's just not my thing.

 

I agree 800000%


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It's actually kind of funny from a narrative sense that Cullen and Leliana go along with you to camp and then just stand around. Especially Leliana. Like, she fought a freaking Arch Demon. I would logically want her on my front lines. Who has a better resume than this? lol

Lelianna very likely do not answer to inquisitor. She and her spies are allies of inquisition, not servants

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Lelianna very likely do not answer to inquisitor. She and her spies are allies of inquisition, not servants

But the Inquisitor is the leader. If Japanese soldiers are sent to back up an American general, they will follow the American general's orders. 



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It is interesting to note that there is a chance one of Gaider's LIs will,.. How do you say it in English? Come out? Since both Cassandra and Cullen are pretty popular that would cause quite a chaos
Cole is unlikely as Gaider himself stated the guy has a child-like mind.
Both Kirby and Weeks tweeted about romance writing a bit. Solas is possible, though there were hints that he writes IB

 

OH god I half want this to be Cullen for the fan explosion. I would eat snacks I swear.



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Lelianna very likely do not answer to inquisitor. She and her spies are allies of inquisition, not servants

Well, the trailer says "whatever we were before, now we are the Inquisition" or something like that. It makes it pretty clear, I think, that the people around the table are fully members of the Inquisition. I wouldn't use the word "servant", which implies a margin of.. ownership, almost? She's basically an employee of the Inquisitor, though.


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OH god I half want this to be Cullen for the fan explosion. I would eat snacks I swear.

Bring nachos! That would be some golden trolling

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OH god I half want this to be Cullen for the fan explosion. I would eat snacks I swear.

 

I'd be fine with him coming to terms with the fact he's bisexual. Gay? As in my Inquisitor can't romance him??

 

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Did they actually say one of Gaider's romances specifically was the one having sexuality issues? I thought it was just a vague comment about someone in the story, not specifically an LI. I didn't see the comments, though, I've just seen people talking about it on here. Does anyone have a link to what was said?