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#11751
LilyasAvalon

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That makes sense. Varric has already stated he isn't attracted to humans. Cullen and or Dorian may have had enough bad experience with Qunari that they're uncomfortable even romancing a Tal-Vashoth. Maybe Iron Bull worries that he'd break an elf. Perhaps Solas or Sera has been oppressed by humans at some point in their lives and they can't get past that? 

 

Yeah, it's why I wasn't originally too worried when Gaider said it. Then he started being all... negative and stuff. And it distressed me.

 

 

Problem is the engine Bioware is working with is not mod friendly. So whatever scenes they do end up using, you can't mod.

 

Don't underestimate the power of this fanbase.

 

If there is a will, there is a way.


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#11752
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Well, personally I'd rather they'd go for light R hard PG13 because they're never going to get better if they don't work on it, and because our society is too hung up about sex and needs to relax. I've got this whole thing about how messed up it is that they can show a brood mother's six ****** flopping about to disgust us, but Morrigan has to put on a bra and Samantha has to shower in her underwear.

 

But if the option is between fully animated scenes and a lack of race restrictions, then give me the lack of race restrictions and fade to black.

 

But my eyes in the meantime :( Though the Morrigan bra thing was dumb as hell. So was Samantha for that matter. I just prefer FTb because I often end up laughing/facepalming in the middle of it.

 

And yeah I'd take some kissing and FTB anyday.



#11753
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Well, personally I'd rather they'd go for light R hard PG13 because they're never going to get better if they don't work on it, and because our society is too hung up about sex and needs to relax. I've got this whole thing about how messed up it is that they can show a brood mother's six ****** flopping about to disgust us, but Morrigan has to put on a bra and Samantha has to shower in her underwear.

 

But if the option is between fully animated scenes and a lack of race restrictions, then give me the lack of race restrictions and fade to black.

 

Ye Olde American sex and violence depiction.

 

It's a shame the next gen sex content in Watch Dogs is so unpleasant. 

 

(I mean that in a story way, not how its depicted).



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Don't underestimate the power of this fanbase.

 

If there is a will, there is a way.

Trust me, it'll be ridiculously hard. They don't even have a mod support or any modding tools. I hate to the party pooper, since I want mods too, but it is improbable.



#11755
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Yes. There is no guarantee that a particular gender/race combination will have as many romantic prospects as another.

 

And that's fine. Romance options are not candy to be dispensed fairly and evenly, and if there's a particular character that you've decided before the game is released that you must romance, it's advisable you play a different PC. The most we can do (and have done) is ensure that there's no overall slanting towards a particular group-- it's all over the map, for various reasons.

I admit I'm surprised that roances will be gated both by gender and by race.  One or the other, I figured, sure.  But both?

 

I've kinda dismissed that possibility because providing a variety of choices would make such restrictions too prohibitive to manage. 

 

Unless there are a lot more potential LIs than I believed...

 

Hoping we get a full list soon.  This has me very curious.



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Yeah, it's why I wasn't originally too worried when Gaider said it. Then he started being all... negative and stuff. And it distressed me.

 

 

 

Don't underestimate the power of this fanbase.

 

If there is a will, there is a way.

 

He didn't strike me as negative. It's really just matter-of-fact. Romances as they are won't change, and he's not going to be apologetic for what he thinks is a good choice. Some inquisitors will have less options. That's life.

 

I've been more or less vocal that I don't think fairness is a good measure through which to design content, even though that as a homosexual fairness rarely exists in my favor. I'm excited that they are making sure we all have at least two options. I've mentioned before that I personally wouldn't choose to give other people extra content that I couldn't access while playing a Gayquisitor, but that doesn't mean BioWare shouldn't. Just because I'm petty doesn't mean that Bioware should design content that works with my sense of pettiness.

 

As Allan pointed out, it's possible that the writing team had more budget for characters this time around and that the limiting factor was Cutscene development. If IB was only available to other Qunari that's six whole cutscenes they don't have to design, if a character is straight or gay then the number of cutscenes needed is cut in half. If this step in the process was more limited then gating makes even more sense.


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#11757
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That makes sense. Varric has already stated he isn't attracted to humans. Cullen and or Dorian may have had enough bad experience with Qunari that they're uncomfortable even romancing a Tal-Vashoth. Maybe Iron Bull worries that he'd break an elf. Perhaps Solas or Sera has been oppressed by humans at some point in their lives and they can't get past that?

Varric was attracted to that human blood mage prostitute. Iduna. I think he can be attracted to them, he just doesnt date them or maybe Iduna had a spell on him.
Other then that, I totally agree with your theory. Its probably right.

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Forget about which LI is gay / straight / bi ... The question we should be asking here is will the sex scenes be PG or R rated?

yes this! At the very least PG-13 Please! The game is rated mature already so c'moooonn.

 

But I think even more important is the query: If Varric is a romance, will he dance the Remigold with my Inquisitor?



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Varric was attracted to that human blood mage prostitute. Iduna. I think he can be attracted to them, he just doesnt date them or maybe Iduna had a spell on him.

 

That was attraction? I thought it was just classic D&D Charm spell. :)

 

Which is all blood magic mind control is.



#11760
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He didn't strike me as negative. It's really just matter-of-fact. Romances as they are won't change, and he's not going to be apologetic for what he thinks is a good choice. Some inquisitors will have less options. That's life.

 

I've been more or less vocal that I don't think fairness is a good measure through which to design content, even though that as a homosexual fairness rarely exists in my favor. I'm excited that they are making sure we all have at least two options. I've mentioned before that I personally wouldn't choose to give other people extra content that I couldn't access while playing a Gayquisitor, but that doesn't mean BioWare shouldn't. Just because I'm petty doesn't mean that Bioware should design content that works with my sense of pettiness.

 

As Allan pointed out, it's possible that the writing team had more budget for characters this time around and that the limiting factor was Cutscene development. If IB was only available to other Qunari that's six whole cutscenes they don't have to design, if a character is straight or gay then the number of cutscenes needed is cut in half. If this step in the process was more limited then gating makes even more sense.

 

Gaider can come off like that sometimes. He's done with everything though, so it's ok.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if the limiting factor with cutscene development though.

 

Frostbite is a nice engine but it's still not their engine.

 

Varric was attracted to that human blood mage prostitute. Iduna. I think he can be attracted to them, he just doesnt date them or maybe Iduna had a spell on him.

 

That could probably be because, you know, she was using blood magic? (well blood and desire really)



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Varric was attracted to that human blood mage prostitute. Iduna. I think he can be attracted to them, he just doesnt date them or maybe Iduna had a spell on him.
Other then that, I totally agree with your theory. Its probably right.

 

I'm not sure "...attracted to Idunna, who was casting a spell in order to seduce people" is a fair and accurate way to judge someone's attraction to a particular gender or race... ;)

 

I'm still in the camp that wants Varric to find Bianca, or stay true to her. Not everyone has to "get over" the past just for our protagonist. And their story was such a good one. Sort of. If you like stories that have no ending, or a sad one. Or both.


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#11762
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I'm not sure "...attracted to Idunna, who was casting a spell in order to seduce people" is a fair and accurate way to judge someone's attraction to a particular gender or race... ;)

 

I'm still in the camp that wants Varric to find Bianca, or stay true to her. Not everyone has to "get over" the past just for our protagonist. And their story was such a good one. Sort of. If you like stories that have no ending, or a sad one. Or both.

 

Yeah I'm in the reunite him camp. Though if that's can't happen I would hope to help him move on. Not to my Inq mind but just in general.



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He should find her as a brood mother and end up finishing her off with Bianca.



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I'm not sure "...attracted to Idunna, who was casting a spell in order to seduce people" is a fair and accurate way to judge someone's attraction to a particular gender or race... ;)

 

I'm still in the camp that wants Varric to find Bianca, or stay true to her. Not everyone has to "get over" the past just for our protagonist. And their story was such a good one. Sort of. If you like stories that have no ending, or a sad one. Or both.

 

I'd like to see Varric get over her whether he becomes an LI or not. Assuming they don't reunite, that is.



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So..how bout the Ladies



#11766
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My romance predictions:

 

known: Sera -female only

 

Dorian -male only

Solas-bi

Cullen-female only

 

Viv-bi

Cass- male only

 

Iron bull-maybe Qunari only

 

Cole?-non romance

Varric- non romance

Blackwall- non romance

Scribbles?- not sure



#11767
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My romance predictions:

 

known: Sera -female only

 

Dorian -male only

Solas-bi

Cullen-female only

 

Viv-bi

Cass- male only

 

Iron bull-maybe Qunari only

 

Cole?-non romance

Varric- non romance

Blackwall- non romance

Scribbles?- not sure

I could see Dorian being at least Bi, perhaps swinging either way. And maybe Scribbles being Bi. Not sure how the rest will play out.

 

 

 

So..how bout the Ladies

 

Yes.



#11768
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I could see Dorian being at least Bi, perhaps swinging either way. And maybe Scribbles being Bi. Not sure how the rest will play out.

 

 

I was thinking that Dorian might be bi too- but it seems like a stretch that Cullen would be considering he only had a crush on the female mage in DA:O and that they would make Solas gay because Sera (the only other elf) is already gay.



#11769
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I don't see Iron Bull as being available for qunari only, but I see qunari only being able to romance Iron Bull.



#11770
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See, I don't think they'll have two gay elves.

 

I think the gay male romance pretty much has to be Dorian or Blackwall, and Dorian is far more likely.


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I'd like to see Varric get over her whether he becomes an LI or not. Assuming they don't reunite, that is.

 

Yes yes yes.

 

I want to help him <3 maybe he can meet another dwarf lady if he gets over Bianca near endgame.



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Here is my tentative (and most likely wildly incorrect) speculation based on the new information:

 

Serafemale Inquisitors only

Race: Any

 

Cassandra: male Inquisitors only

Race: Any

 

Vivienne: Any gender

Race: human only

 

Scribe Girl: Any gender

Race: ??? elf/dwarf only ???

 

Cullen: Female Inquisitors only

Race: no Qunari

 

Iron Bull: Any gender

Race: qunari/human only

 

Varric: Female Inquisitors only

Race: elf/dwarf only

 

Dorian: Male Inquisitors only

Race: no Qunari


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#11773
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Will this be the game where we have a straight LI elf companion? It's all down to Solas.

 

 

I can see him being Bi.



#11774
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Here is my tentative (and most likely wildly incorrect) speculation based on the new information:

 

Serafemale Inquisitors only

Race: Any

 

Cassandra: male Inquisitors only

Race: Any

 

Vivienne: Any gender

Race: human only

 

Scribe Girl: Any gender

Race: ??? elf/dwarf only ???

 

Cullen: Female Inquisitors only

Race: no Qunari

 

Iron Bull: Any gender

Race: qunari/human only

 

Varric: Female Inquisitors only

Race: elf/dwarf only

 

Dorian: Male Inquisitors only

Race: no Qunari

 

No love for the qun. ;A;



#11775
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I did say "maybe Iduna had a spell on him"
I legitimately thought he was attracted to her, but I guess you guys are right.