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#12001
GriffinFire

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Thing is that there is absolutely no way they can implement racial restrictions that I will support. I condemn the very notion of them.

 

Based on an assumption that every LI will have major restrictions?  Or would you still be as upset if just one LI had just one player race they weren't attracted to?  Honest question.



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I'm hoping for a list of restrictions before the game comes out, and the return of the "I think you should leave." dialogue option to get people to leave the group.

 

People have their own preferences. That's fine, nothing wrong with that. I have my preferences, too, and one of them is not associating with people with their preferences. 

I really hope this post is not implying what I think it is, because if it is. Then that's simply disgusting.


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i´m hoping for Dorian or Iron bull :)

 

Edit: i can´t spell right now :(

IB I guess :P or Dorian.

 

Edit: DAMNIT ANER.

 

I keep getting ninja'd today ;-;

 

I'm hoping for both of those, too! I really need Cassandra though lol, just her preference as we already know she's a LI.

 

 

Hopefully a male option. We've had two ladies confirmed and one male. I like things even.

 

I want to know if Solas is an LI, I hope he is because he's pretty hot I can't even lie


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#12004
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I'll just run with it. My Human Warrior will probably be oversexed and happy. My male Dalish will be a lonely pariah. One saves the world, the other destroys it.



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YES!

 

IB:"But i may make you walk funny afterwa...."

 

INQ: "Don´t worry Iron bull!, i killed that dragon with my bare hands did i not?"

 

IB: "fair point, okey then..."

 

*afterwards*:

 

INQ "...holy maker, i can´t feel my legs!"

 

IB: "Told ya...."

 

:lol:

 

Inq should go "Challenge accepted" lololol then "Absolutely no regrets." later even while doing the penguin walk XD (and get a stamina boost because damned if it wouldn't make me crack up.)



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Based on an assumption that every LI will have major restrictions?  Or would you still be as upset if just one LI had just one player race they weren't attracted to?  Honest question.

 

Yes.



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I'll just run with it. My Human Warrior will probably be oversexed and happy. My male Dalish will be a lonely pariah. One saves the world, the other destroys it.

 

So big ball of rage? Street do Ice King! At least that way when teh world burns to hell everyone's too busy trying to kill each other to notice you walking away with all the loot :D



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I really hope this post is not implying what I think it is, because if it is. Then that's simply disgusting.

 

No, it isn't. We've been over this.

 

It's implying that I don't want to associate with people who are completely closed off to the concept of an interracial relationship, not that I don't want to associate with people who won't sleep with me.

 

Were I playing a human and there was one character who absolutely dismissed the concept of romance with dwarves or qunari, they'd get the boot. They're free to have their preferences somewhere else. 


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He said might. He said "...either by way of gender or race, which are both possibilities in DAI...", not yes, they are race restricted.
 
I'm not saying one way or the other. But having been decieved, manipulated, and flat-out lied to by devs more than once over the last ten years or so, you'll forgive me if I need more direct language before I take anything as confirmation.

And I said it might be as well; that doesn't mean that people are basing this off on Just Gaider's response in this thread.

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:lol:

 

Inq should go "Challenge accepted" lololol then "Absolutely no regrets." later even while doing the penguin walk XD (and get a stamina boost because damned if it wouldn't make me crack up.)

haha XD



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I want to know if Solas is an LI, I hope he is because he's pretty hot I can't even lie

 

This is your Inquisitor isn't it?  :lol:

 

picking_herbs_with_solas_by_shaylynb-d7e



#12012
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No, it isn't. We've been over this.

 

It's implying that I don't want to associate with people who are completely closed off to the concept of an interracial relationship, not that I don't want to associate with people who won't sleep with me.

 

Were I playing a human and there was one character who absolutely dismissed the concept of romance with dwarves or qunari, they'd get the boot. They're free to have their preferences somewhere else. 

 

That's... a little extreme, dude. Some people just aren't attracted to other people.



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Yes.

 

Fair enough.



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No, it isn't. We've been over this.

 

It's implying that I don't want to associate with people who are completely closed off to the concept of an interracial relationship, not that I don't want to associate with people who won't sleep with me.

 

Were I playing a human and there was one character who absolutely dismissed the concept of romance with dwarves or qunari, they'd get the boot. They're free to have their preferences somewhere else. 

 

Isn't kicking someone out of group solely because of their sexual preferences a little... unfortunate implication-ey? 

 

It's not really any different to kicking someone out because the dismiss the concept of a romance with women. 


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No, it isn't. We've been over this.

 

It's implying that I don't want to associate with people who are completely closed off to the concept of an interracial relationship, not that I don't want to associate with people who won't sleep with me.

 

Were I playing a human and there was one character who absolutely dismissed the concept of romance with dwarves or qunari, they'd get the boot. They're free to have their preferences somewhere else. 

 

An individual can be fine with the concept of a, let's say, dwarf/human relationship but may not want to enter into one themselves. 


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I don't mind the racial restrictions; someone a couple (okay, many) pages back mentioned it made things more organic, not realistic, and I think that's a good word. That said, I'm hoping it's not so much a gate as in "you can only date someone of your race" as it is "Sera's a lesbian, but she can't get past her hatred of human injustice to date one. She's cool with dwarves and Qunari, though". That way it's less about "hate" against interracial/interspecies relationships and more about just not finding someone of that race/ethnicity attractive.


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#12017
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No, it isn't. We've been over this.

 

It's implying that I don't want to associate with people who are completely closed off to the concept of an interracial relationship, not that I don't want to associate with people who won't sleep with me.

 

Were I playing a human and there was one character who absolutely dismissed the concept of romance with dwarves or qunari, they'd get the boot. They're free to have their preferences somewhere else. 

 

Just because they aren't sexual attracted to a certain race doesn't mean they are closed off to the concept of interracial relationships, it's only their personal preference 


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No, it isn't. We've been over this.

 

It's implying that I don't want to associate with people who are completely closed off to the concept of an interracial relationship, not that I don't want to associate with people who won't sleep with me.

 

Were I playing a human and there was one character who absolutely dismissed the concept of romance with dwarves or qunari, they'd get the boot. They're free to have their preferences somewhere else. 

Yup, so you are implying what I feared.

 

Ignored. This very thought process is completely disgusting and no different then people who hate gays, straight, mad that Sera is a lesbian and other nonsense because thinking that someone does not want to sleep with someone outside their race is a bad thing or they are against the concept(even though that's not true) is simply ugh.


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#12019
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Romances seem to be quite time and resource consuming content. Why would they want to place *double* restrictions- gender and race- on them, to the point where only a tiny fraction of the audience ends up experiencing content that took lots of effort and resources to create?

 

 

Cutscenes for romantic content seem to swallow up a big portion of the effort and ressources. Given that each race/gender-combination has their own model, requiring additional effort for the cut scene, double restrictions make sense for keeping the budget.

 

Say they had budget for 32 cut scenes with different models. They either could spread this over 4 characters being LI options to everybody (4 characters * 4 races * 2 genders = 32), or they could say "Sera is only available for for half of the model types, and Cullen is only available for the other half, allowing us to have more than 4 characters as LI option.

 

This is only a very simplified calculation of my own reasoning, but I would be surprised if  budgeting the scenes wasn't an aspect in the restriction.



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Isn't kicking someone out of group solely because of their sexual preferences a little... uncool? 

 

It would be like refusing to be friends with someone because they don't find people with black hair attractive. 

 

Yeah, it's kind of like those girls at a party I overheard making jokes about how Asian men have small penises.

 

I just REALLY want to be friends with them (since I'm half, they can't tell they're insulting me to my face). I am so openminded.



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True, but it still sends a bad message, especially when those other species are used to represent real world cultures. And so long as they're sentient and sapient and capable of the full range of emotions we are, then the arguments against it are more or less identical to those against interracial relationships. 

 

Just saying this to state my opinion on the matter.

Oh believe me I know where you're coming from. As someone who is in an interracial relationship IRL i've had my fair share of people who don't like it.

 

I just don't think that there is a real life equivalent to say, the qunari. So I don't necessarily agree that it's the same thing.



#12022
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And I said it might be as well; that doesn't mean that people are basing this off on Just Gaider's response in this thread.

 

No, you're right. They aren't basing it off of Gaider's response. In this or any other thread. They are basing it off what they've chosen to believe Gaider said, even thought Gaider did not say any such thing, for reasons of their own.



#12023
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Alright BioWare.

 

You told us about Sera. Will you tell us Cassandra and Cullen's sexual orientations?

 

Will you let us know, before release, all of the LI's and all of the restrictions on each of their romances?

 

These are things that I am sure many of us want to know.  I have several characters planned out, and knowing who they can romance is something I personally like to know and plan for while making their backstory and preparing to play them. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.


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#12024
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Isn't kicking someone out of group solely because of their sexual preferences a little... uncool? 

 

It would be like refusing to be friends with someone because they don't find people with black hair attractive. 

 

There's having preferences and then there's being completely closed off to the concept. I have preferences; there are certain ethnic qualities I prefer over others. But I don't dismiss the idea of finding romance with any race because I find other things- the ability to have a good conversation and a sense of humor, for example - far more important. 

 

Someone who is completely shut off to the idea, that they would never engage in such a relationship, no matter what, no matter how much they connected to that person otherwise. That's someone I don't want to associate with.


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I don't mind the racial restrictions; someone a couple (okay, many) pages back mentioned it made things more organic, not realistic, and I think that's a good word. That said, I'm hoping it's not so much a gate as in "you can only date someone of your race" as it is "Sera's a lesbian, but she can't get past her hatred of human injustice to date one. She's cool with dwarves and Qunari, though". That was it's less about "hate" against interracial/interspecies relationships and more about just not finding someone of that race/ethnicity attractive.

This in that case. They better have an explanation like this, then i have no big trouble with it. i still don´t like it but i can tolerate it.