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Okay, first I read it wasn't. Then I read it was. Then I read DG's comments and now I'm all sorts of confused. I would like to know if there are going to restrict by race or not. I don't give a crap who the LIs are, but I would please like this confirmed one way or the other.
In an easily missed conversation that I didn't even know existed until recently. I thought he was putting him/her into the friend-zone, so any romantic relationship wouldn't hurt their friendship.
You and me both.
HAI GUISE, I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR 8 HOURS OR SO WHAT ARE WE TALK-
Oh.
Would it help if I told everyone more about gorilla reproduction? I could discuss gorilla reproduction.
Two straight and two bi I guess, but to have everyone like that, just seemed like they were gunning for fans to stick with them.
Gee, I wonder if I can guess your sexual orientation based on your suggestion...... 
I feel a bit more sympathy for the female gorillas.
Size queen.
It has not been my experience that you can use height and weight to extrapolate anything that would make that train/tunnel gif make sense.......
HOW DARE YE SER.
I'LL RAM YOUR TUNNEL WITH MY PINK TRAIN
Would it help if I told everyone more about gorilla reproduction? I could discuss gorilla reproduction.
Do the female gorillas cry afterwards?
I'm still trying to understand why both Fenris and Merrill would even have to say that they liked both men and women to become more "believable" and "realistic" bisexual characters.
Fenris is very private and a loner, other than what we see of his possible relationships with Hawke or Isabela, and Merrill doesn't have much experience to talk of, before any relationship she might have with Hawke. I don't understand why that isn't enough for some people, or how they would have been better with more dialogue about sex.
I'm still trying to understand why both Fenris and Merrill would even have to say that they liked both men and women to become more "believable" and "realistic" bisexual characters.
Who said anything about believable or realistic?
Gee, I wonder if I can guess your sexual orientation based on your suggestion......
Straight, I think you'd guess.
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Who said anything about believable or realistic?
Fine, how about, "fleshed out," a term which was used?
Crap. I keep accidentally liking things. Is there a way to remove your likes? >>
Just click it again and it should unlike stuff.
Crap. I keep accidentally liking things. Is there a way to remove your likes? >>
Click "Unlike"
Just click it again and it should unlike stuff.
Thank you. Although that option now isn't present for me. Peculiar.
Lmao.
I'm too lesbian for this d!ick talk. 
Aww I'm outta likes again.
It was too soon 
Fine, how about, "fleshed out," a term which was used?
We can go with that. Would you say, based on one playthrough, that the sexualities of the characters were fleshed out? I'd say only Isabela's were. Not that it is a subject that has to be "fleshed out", but it goes a long way to avoid the objectification of characters.
Fine, how about, "fleshed out," a term which was used?
Hehe
'fleshed out'.
it's common sense to expect something larger than what a human has, so no expertise needed there. Just a brain.
I never said they had to do *everything* we said. But pretending that artists exist in some kind of holy art creation sanctum with no influence or obligation is just silly. My whole point is that nobody "owns" the story (except in some overly legalistic copyright definition of the term). Nobody owns the *meaning* of the story. I don't get to dictate to the artists what the story does or doesn't mean to them. And they don't get to dictate to it to me. Meaning making - which is what art is really about - is a process. Not property.
Not sure where you're going with all this stuff about meanings.
This line of discussion started because people were saying that Bioware are obligated to give them specific content merely because they want it. Content, not meanings.
Yes, yes it does.
Unless you are directly contributing to the game, either by way of direct financial investment or, you know, actually working on the game, your input is very, very limited.
If wanting something makes you "entitled" then you are equally as entitled as everyone else on this forum, mate.
Fine, how about, "fleshed out," a term which was used?
Or "objectification", "pandering", etc...those words have been thrown around relentlessly.
Wait, so racial restrictions are now.., unconfirmed?
I guess they were never confirmed in the first place?
We can go with that. Would you say, based on one playthrough, that the sexualities of the characters were fleshed out? I'd say only Isabela's were. Not that it is a subject that has to be "fleshed out", but it goes a long way to avoid the objectification of characters.
The writers themselves said that they wanted to "flesh out" the companions more, which was the reason for set sexuality. Do I think that a lack of developing the DA2 companion's sexuality made them less interesting and deep characters? No. I could have cared less if Fenris had said, "Yes ma'am, I like boys too," because it would have changed nothing about the character. Merrill being a lesbian wouldn't have had much of an impact on her character arc or even on Merrill as a person.
Like I said last night, if the reasons for set sexuality are for representation, then that's fine. I managed to answer my own question last night regarding how sexuality can help develop a character, true. However, outside of making sure that more stereotypes about non-straight folks are tossed aside, it adds little to their character. Sera is suddenly not a more interesting person to me just because she's a lesbian, and I'm a big fan of hers. Her character doesn't seem "more real" to me just because she has a set sexuality.
Isabela by herself was an objectification, but that fit compeltely into her character (she wanted men and women to objectify her).
Anders not telling a female Hawke about his close relationship with Karl, and just why he mattered so much to Anders? Bullsh!t.
Fenris not telling a female Hawke how Danarius used him as a body slave? Even more from the same truckload.
The only feasibly reasonable is Merrill, because she is basically mentally an overgrown child.
But still not even a HINT from any of the characters (Isabela barred). Nothing. Nada. Less than zero.
Isabela is ironically the one I am okay with, because BioWare were honest with their intentions for her.
I see the Anders conversation as a way to indicate to the players using a male Hawke that he was available to their character.
Fenris being used as a "body slave" is in no way indicative of his sexual orientation so that example of yours doesn't really count as him withholding his sexuality from female Hawke.
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