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Being uncomfortable asking someone out or getting propositioned != being uncomfortable with your sexuality. I was pretty nervous and stammering myself the first time I asked someone out but that didn't mean I was unsure of my sexuality.

 

 

Doesn't mean this is the same case for other people though. ;)


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Ugh...those peope.

 

 

Yeah, not gonna lie, the ME threads were full of vitriol back then. It's the reason why i stopped visiting the site for a while.



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Being uncomfortable asking someone out or getting propositioned != being uncomfortable with your sexuality. I was pretty nervous and stammering myself the first time I asked someone out but that didn't mean I was unsure of my sexuality.

 

Of course they are not necessarily the same thing.  I'm saying that it's not that much of a stretch to reconcile his behavior in DA: O with someone who is uncomfortable with his own sexuality (not sexual preference, per se, sexuality in general).

 

Plus, let's not blow this scene out of proportion.  He wasn't "asking her out".  He never expressed interest in her except for stammering while talking to her and then he runs away when she propositions him.   It's implied its because he has some feelings for her, but there's nothing explicit.  On BSN, people have allowed this scene to morph into some proclamation of love towards female Amell/Surana and it's really not.....at all.


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Yeah, not gonna lie, the ME threads were full of vitriol back then. It's the reason why i stopped visiting the site for a while.

Yeah, I'm glad I dropped off after DA2, before ME3. I didn't come back till last summer when Fires Above premiered. Never dropped in the ME boards, not once. I could see the toxicity, even nearly a year and half after that mess.



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Doesn't mean this is the same case for other people though. ;)


Yes, but that doesn't mean that Cullen is struggling with his sexuality either. There are plenty of different ways to look at it. He might have run away because he was in shock and disbelief that this beautiful girl whom he thought he had no chance with actually asked him out , he was like a deer in headlights, he didn't know what to say and chose to flee.

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His inexperience at the time of DA: O is pretty significant, actually.  He was stammering and flustered when talking to female Amell/Surana, but he never outright expressed his interest in her.  It was heavily implied, but never explicitly stated.  Interestingly, he literally runs away from her if she propositions him.  It's not like he gets all sexy-like, "Well, I guess we'll just have to find alone time....." or takes her up on it.  He actually runs away.  It's not super compelling that he must be heterosexual. 

 

I mean, I'm comfortably openly gay (and married to a guy), but 15 years ago, I had a girlfriend who I was equally uncomfortable around.  It really wouldn't be a big stretch for Cullen to have sorted out his sexuality and be comfortably bisexual now that he is in his mid 30's.  In fact, the "realism" crowd should love that since it's actually quite realistic.  Now, I know that there is the whole "Thedas v. Earth" perception of s/s relationships to contend with, but it doesn't mean that an individual wouldn't still potentially be uncomfortable with their attraction for a number of personal reasons.  

 

All that being said, while I want him to be the bisexual option, I would not be in the least bit surprised if he's the straight option, instead.

I would like to point out that big deal with Cullen's crush with f!Amell/f!Surana was that he was Templar and he wasn't supposed to have those feelings, as his dialogue from Broken Circle says:

Cullen: Don't touch me! Stay away! Sifting through my thoughts... tempting me with the one thing I always wanted but could never have... Using my shame against me... my ill advised infatuation with her... a mage, of all things. I am so tired of these cruel jokes... these tricks... these...

So that he didn't act on his feelings isn't really big suprise.



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Yes, but that doesn't mean that Cullen is struggling with his sexuality either. There are plenty of different ways to look at it. He might have run away because he was in shock and disbelief that this beautiful girl whom he thought he had no chance with actually asked him out , he was like a deer in headlights, he didn't know what to say and chose to flee.

 

Of course it could.  I don't think anyone is using that scene to say that "Cullen is definitely gay or bisexual".  However, we are pointing out that the scene is also not proof that "Cullen is definitely straight" either.  It's in response to the "they are retconning his character!" and "his sexuality is being changed!" and "he has to be the straight only LI option" comments that show up on the boards. 



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I really can't call these romances for Inquisition, though If I were to guess sensibly I'd say -

 

Cassandra - Straight

Solas - Straight 

Sera - Bi/Lesbian

Mustache Mage - Bi/Gay

Cullen - Bi

Scribe Girl - Bi 



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I'm sorry if it has been mentioned before, but has it been confirmed that Solas is actually a LI?



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I'm sorry if it has been mentioned before, but has it been confirmed that Solas is actually a LI?

 

No, the only ones confirmed are Cassandra and Cullen.



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I really can't call these romances for Inquisition, though If I were to guess sensibly I'd say -

 

Cassandra - Straight

Solas - Straight 

Sera - Bi/Lesbian

Mustache Mage - Bi/Gay

Cullen - Bi

Scribe Girl - Bi 

They announced there would be homosexual LIs as well as straight and bisexual LIs in the mix, so at least one has to be fully homosexual, not just bi.



#1312
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@Shaen Mac Tir

I don't think so, I just think people strongly assume he's going to be the obvious LI for females whereas it's Cassandra for males.

 

@Mort de Minuit

Oh I didn't know that, well then I definitely think the mustache mag guy will be gay then and Sera possibly gay as well. 



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I'm sorry if it has been mentioned before, but has it been confirmed that Solas is actually a LI?

As far I have discovered, only Cullen & Cassandra are confirmed romances.



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I'm sorry if it has been mentioned before, but has it been confirmed that Solas is actually a LI?

It's just heavily assumed because he's the only male elf and people expect an elf LI. It's possible that he's not.



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I just suppose it would be unfair if Beardy McWarden is not a LI ^_^ He's totally adorable.



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I just suppose it would be unfair if Beardy McWarden is not a LI ^_^ He's totally adorable.

I think he's probably too close to his calling to be an option. It's still possible, though. No male companion LIs have been confirmed. 



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I expected Vivienne to be a LI but I've completely changed my opinion now. It'd be awesome if the bearded mage turned out to be Wade or something from Origins (impossible but would be funny)  :D . In all seriousness though going off the little information I know I can see my Inquisitor going for the scribe girl so far should she be a LI.



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Of course it could. I don't think anyone is using that scene to say that "Cullen is definitely gay or bisexual". However, we are pointing out that the scene is also not proof that "Cullen is definitely straight" either. It's in response to the "they are retconning his character!" and "his sexuality is being changed!" and "he has to be the straight only LI option" comments that show up on the boards.


I agree with you, that scene doesn't prove that he is 100% straight. But, my point is that there is no reason for him to be uncomfortable with his sexuality (if he is in fact bi) because people are comfortable with s/s relationships and they have been forever in Thedas as you pointed out in one of your posts.

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I'd rather him be straight as it seems more in-line with Cullen as a character, but for the fact he's so popular and this is the chance we'll finally be able to romance him, Bioware might be afraid it'll look bad if males can't get with him. They did it with Kaiden and it appeased a lot of fans, if Cullen lost the chance to romance males there could be a lot of backlash to come from it even though I personally think he's straight.



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I'm not getting my hopes up too much about romancing particular companions.  Not only because they might not be the right orientation for my female Quizzy (although if I was really set on one character, I'd consider rolling a male) but also because I might not like them as much as I anticipate.  I thought I'd like Anders well enough in DA2 because I did in Awakening.  Nope.  Also in Awakening, I assumed in advance that any son of Arl Howe would be no friend of mine.  Wrong again: I wanted to romance him. As for DAI, I might hate Vivienne because she sounds like a shallow social climber, but who knows, once we're bantering in-game I might find her outrageous fun.  And that applies even more to DHMG and Solas because we know even less about them so far.  It's not just their description on paper that charms me, nor how they look.  It's the way they react, and especially the voice.


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I don't why exactly people only use flirting option at f!Mage Origin to prove Cullen's only known sign of his "preference", since Cullen himself pretty much says that he has feelings for F!Mage Warden during Broken Circle quest chain:

 

Broken Circle- Cullen

 

 

I admit that it is possible for reasons unknown that he simply didn't find m!Mage Warden attractive and he is okay having bisexual relationship, but I still find it somewhat curious that he was friendly with female Mage and not with male counterpart.


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I agree with you, that scene doesn't prove that he is 100% straight. But, my point is that there is no reason for him to be uncomfortable with his sexuality (if he is in fact bi) because people are comfortable with s/s relationships and they have been forever in Thedas as you pointed out in one of your posts.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but it would seem to me that Cullen is uncomfortable with sexuality period. He literally runs away from a female Warden mage in the Origin if she suggests she knows he likes her. He was pretty uncomfortable expressing any sort of interest, so if after 10 years he is more comfortable to express himself to a variety of people/genders he might be interested in, that'd feel fairly logical/not like a retcon to me.


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I agree with you, that scene doesn't prove that he is 100% straight. But, my point is that there is no reason for him to be uncomfortable with his sexuality (if he is in fact bi) because people are comfortable with s/s relationships and they have been forever in Thedas as you pointed out in one of your posts.

 

I can see what you mean by this, but there is still some evidence of people being uncomfortable with s/s relationships.  Both Gamlen and Oghren express some "ew, who's the girl?" dialogue with respect to s/s relationship.  So it's not that there isn't discomfort with s/s relationships from some people, it's that there isn't an institutional homophobia being driven by the Chantry, like we see in the real world.  So, it stands to reason that Cullen could still have some hesitation because of how other people might perceive him.  And, it could be something that he, as a person, could just struggle with.  We'll have to wait to see (if he's even bisexual) in DA: I how he addresses it.

 

I'd rather him be straight as it seems more in-line with Cullen as a character, but for the fact he's so popular and this is the chance we'll finally be able to romance him, Bioware might be afraid it'll look bad if males can't get with him. They did it with Kaiden and it appeased a lot of fans, if Cullen lost the chance to romance males there could be a lot of backlash to come from it even though I personally think he's straight.

 

Why does Cullen seem "straight" and not "bisexual" regarding his character?  Outside of a single dialogue option in one out of the six origin stories (and then only when you play as a female), he doesn't give any indication whatsoever to his sexuality.



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I don't why exactly people only use flirting option at f!Mage Origin to prove Cullen's only known sign of his "preference", since Cullen himself pretty much says that he has feelings for F!Mage Warden during Broken Circle quest chain:

 

Broken Circle- Cullen

 

 

I admit that it is possible for reasons unknown that he simply didn't find m!Mage Warden attractive and he is okay having bisexual relationship, but I still find it somewhat curious that he was friendly with female Mage and not with male counterpart.

 

Again, that only happens if you played as a female Warden.  If you didn't (which the majority of the players didn't), then you would have no idea that he had any attraction to anyone regardless of gender.  It's just not really compelling evidence.



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I think it'd be really shoe-horned in if he was I mean, because I think the reason he's a LI anyhow is because he's so huge which probably wasn't the original plan. I'd think him being bi-sexual would be another shoe-horned feature.