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[WildOrchid]

Well they could make Vivi an LI if they replace Scribe Girl

 

That's better. Better Viv than scribbles.

[oceanicsurvivor]

Yeah.

 

Straight male PCs could have three options (all three female companions available -- two are straight, one is bisexual).

 

Lesbian PCs could have two (the bisexual female companion plus the NPC lesbian option).

 

This is possible given what they've said so far.

 

Yeah

 

haha...this upsets me from so many angles though. *sigh*

 

Making the NPC LI's bisexuxal seems the most equitable though?

 

 

Idk, Bioware has said that though romances are a staple, not everyone engages in that content. I'm hoping that means they are less concerned about the straight male gamer and more interested in an equal distribution of resources like DA2. I should probably lower my expectations just to keep myself in check though. 

[Ryzaki]

Honestly I'd be happy as long as everyone had at least 2 choices filled with a comparable amount of content (and everyone got one npc and one companion LI choice).

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That's better. Better Viv than scribbles.

[Divine Justinia V]

Looooooooooooool

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I just don't really see a reason to expect a massive backslide from DA2. Yes, Bioware has had inequality issues in their games in the past, but the trend clearly points towards a progressive slant. DA2 used all bi/vague due to lack of resources for multiple sexuality options because of concern for too much imbalance. ME3 finally added homosexual LIs, even if they were just NPCs, and they allowed access to Kaidan so that there would be 2 m/m options. These moves and the other choices in game aren't perfect, but they were signs of improvement in a company that's already one of the few that was offering any same sex content or gender PC choice. Why should it really be the most rational assumption that they'll take away a system that gave everyone balance just to put an extremely imbalanced system in it's place? I just don't see why the trends would suggest that. 

 

The problem with ME3 was imported characters. It was a choice they made in the past that bogged them down. The new decisions they made were comparatively progressive. I don't see the ME3 route happening to Inquisition, as a whole new game. I wouldn't even really expect to see that imbalance remain in the next ME game. I'm not saying it can't happen, obviously it can. And I understand the fear, because this is historically how things have gone. If we try objectively looking at the evidence, though, I think there's at least as much argument for relative balance as there is against. 

[Divine Justinia V]

Mort are you even tired lol

[Ryzaki]

*yawns* I am.

 

I need to buy fish tomorrow. Yummy fishies.

 

Too poor to buy the decent priced fish so I'll have to get the cheapo fish ;_;

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Mort are you even tired lol

I pretty much don't sleep. I mean, I respect other people's interests, but it's not for me. 

[Divine Justinia V]

Lmfao Ry, thank you for sharing that

[Vapaa]

 

If we try objectively looking at the evidence, though, I think there's at least as much argument for relative balance as there is against. 

 

What evidence is there for either way ? It's only WMG at this point.

[Ryzaki]

XD

 

And now I want a scene where the Inq can cook for their LI and it's utterly terrible.

[oceanicsurvivor]

I pretty much don't sleep. I mean, I respect other people's interests, but it's not for me. 

wait...sadface...I may have misread that ? sorry.

 

 

to your earlier post: I like what they did with DA2 a lot more then how ME3 was handled. A straight femshep was really limited, and for there to be more options for gay lady shep you're stuck including Kelly(who can die in 2, and who you have like...2 lines with)... and Diana (seriously, why are we counting this? Did ANYONE actually do this for any reason other then to post it on Youtube?).

[Divine Justinia V]

I pretty much don't sleep. I mean, I respect other people's interests, but it's not for me. 

Different strokes for different folks

Huehuehuehue

[AresKeith]

Different strokes for different folks

Huehuehuehue

you would huehuehue at that lol

[Maria Caliban]

I wouldn't consider three options for straight dudes and two options for everyone else a 'massive backslide.' I'm also going to assume that the developers don't view their non-companion romances as lesser. Otherwise, they probably wouldn't include them.

I expect that the developers are going to be fair in the romance department. I don't think that their definition of fair matches some of the criteria I've seen expressed in this thread. It's probably safe to assume that DA:I will offer what DA II did: at least two possible romances for every PC. Whether some PCs will have access to more than that or whether all those options will have the same mix of companion/non-companion is still up in the air.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

What evidence is there for either way ? It's only WMG at this point.

There's not much we have to go on, I'm mostly basing this on the fact that it seems like they've made games progressive more inclusive instead of less so far. At least, that's my impression of them, it's up for interpretation. 

[Divine Justinia V]

you would huehuehue at that lol

O:)

[Nocte ad Mortem]

to your earlier post: I like what they did with DA2 a lot more then how ME3 was handled. A straight femshep was really limited, and for there to be more options for gay lady shep you're stuck including Kelly(who can die in 2, and who you have like...2 lines with)... and Diana (seriously, why are we counting this? Did ANYONE actually do this for any reason other then to post it on Youtube?).

I agree that the DA2 system was better than ME3. The problem with ME3 was dealing with all the imports, imo.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Different strokes for different folks

Huehuehuehue

Seriously, this is the second time I've gotten something like this tonight, though. I'm starting to worry. XD

[oceanicsurvivor]

I agree that the DA2 system was better than ME3. The problem with ME3 was dealing with all the imports, imo.

I might be remembering wrong but how did the imports hurt/influence the romances? Kaiden potentially being dead is the only thing I can think of?

[Vapaa]

There's not much we have to go on, I'm mostly basing this on the fact that it seems like they've made games progressive more inclusive instead of less so far. At least, that's my impression of them, it's up for interpretation. 

 

We also based the theory of a even gender ratio on that, that didn't went very well.

 

The problem with ME3 was dealing with all the imports, imo.

 

Not really.

 

If they handled Jacob and Thane properly Femshep would've had nearly as much options as Maleshep...and before people say "Thane fans should've know this would not end well", I'll say that Thane didn't die from his sickness, he was murdered.

 

So no ME3's awful handling of romances had nothing to do with save imports, a lot of things with ME3 had, but not this.

[Darth Krytie]

I might be remembering wrong but how did the imports hurt/influence the romances? Kaiden potentially being dead is the only thing I can think of?

 

You could only romance Thane, Garrus, Miranda, Jack, and Tali if you had an imported romance. (And Kelly and Samara and Jacob, but I'm not counting those.)

[wright1978]

It would actually be a little gross to have only 3 female companions and make them all LI's too. (imo)

 

And if Sera isn't an LI then all the women LI's would be human. Which would be a bummer.

 

All i care about is the existence of choice per orientation in companion romances and all 3 being romances is the only way that can exist now. NPC romances aren't equivalent or an ok substitute to me as experiencing adventure alongside LI has always been fundamental to the romances.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

The problem with imports, imo, are that A.) they basically had to keep bringing back the imbalance they created in previous games, unlike in DA:I, where they can make a whole new selections of more balanced, less problematic LIs each time, B.) that they were relying on choices you made to balance things because they couldn't write enough new characters and still have any content left for old characters, C.) when they finally got to writing homosexual LIs there was little room for them to be developed with the huge amount of past LIs they had to sort out in ME3, but in DA:I they have an almost entirely new cast and a more pinpoint number of characters to write for.