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LordofOrzammar

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Hullo. I've been digging through the threads and haven’t found one dedicated to Varric's role in Inquisition yet. So, now is as good a time as any to start it.

 

Do you think he's changed at all since DA2? How do you think the war has affected him? Certainly the fact that he's started to wear armor seems to imply he's more cautious, more aware of threats to his life. It's thick stuff too, like Varric is expecting serious trouble.

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Another thing worth noting is, after examining close ups of his face, I've noticed Varric has a rather serious scar across his nose and chin. I wonder if we'll learn the story of that wound, seems a close call. You can notice it best here

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Most of all, I'm wondering about Cassandra and Varric, how they began traveling together and whatnot. How they became friends, ect. (And how Varric changed the color of his hair most of all.)

 

Have fun and speculate away!


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I think he's still the lighthearted jokester at heart. But judging from his appearance and demeanor I believe he now has a horse in the race. In contrast to his more casual sideline role in DA II. He has something to lose and a stake in this mess. I cannot wait to figure out what it is. 

 

I am still curious as to what exactly drove him into the arms of Cassandra and the Inquisition. 

 

That scar certainly tells a story, he's more rough and rugged for sure. 



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I think the events in Kirkwall has made Varric aware that there are terrible forces in Thedas that needs a bolt between its eyes.

 

Losing Kirkwall to the Mage uprisings will have hardened him somewhat, so my guess is that he is in the fight so no one else has to experience such destruction.

 

He's still Varric, he still jokes and drinks, but he knows now that he can't joke his way through the entirety of life, there are good people to save.



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the developers used the red lyrium to die his hair red, and cassandra slapped a collar and leash on him, he is now her slave.... and heaven forbid, but it looks like they andersized him.... meaning they make him more serious and less jokey....  i dont have to remind you what a train wreck anders was....  but this is all just speculation from the expressions he makes in the trailers



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I personally hope he's the light of the team, the soul of the group, the jokester as he was before. He might be a tad more serious, but I hope he's the same Varric I loved like a brother in DA2.

 

Time will tell.


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If he will cry like in gameplay trailer too often it will be sadly another companion to use sparta kick from tower. It seems they turned him into two goody shoes...


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If he will cry like in gameplay trailer too often it will be sadly another companion to use sparta kick from tower. It seems they turned him into two goody shoes...

It's goody two shoes, not two goody shoes.


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If he will cry like in gameplay trailer too often it will be sadly another companion to use sparta kick from tower. It seems they turned him into two goody shoes...

Because he showed emotion over the loss of life, he has suddenly become a "goody two shoes"? 



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Varric was always kind of a goody two-shoes, though.



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Varric was always the party's moral center, a role he fullfilled admirably and with a sense of fun. I trust that he'll remain in that role.


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Because he showed emotion over the loss of life, he has suddenly become a "goody two shoes"? 

Well, this is the guy who thought Hawke crying that their mom died right in front of them was a stupid reaction, so...


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maybe his shoes are both named goody, hence two goody shoes



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I think his primary role will be exposition regarding the events of Dragon Age 2 for the benefit of those who haven't played the game. 

 

Likewise, should there be any relatively minor elements of DA2's plot that end up being pivotal to DAI's, he'll be the one to point it out, not just for our benefit, but so that our character will know as well.

 

I do hope that he won't fulfill the same best friend/side kick role he did in DA2. He's Hawke's best friend and side-kick; with the Inquisitor, he should just be along for the ride. 



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yet when he killed bartrand he kind of had a moment...  so yeah why wasnt there a laugh option then?



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It's goody two shoes, not two goody shoes.

 

Not no more.



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TheKomandorShepard

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It's goody two shoes, not two goody shoes.

Well then he is goody two shoes...

 

 

Because he showed emotion over the loss of life, he has suddenly become a "goody two shoes"? 

Yes because he always was crying about peoples he killed with hawke oh i still remember his whines when i was killing mages for nothing well nope it wan't in case in fact he was one who was more toward templar side... and yes he started cry when inq sent soldiers to the keep doing pragmatic thing that soldiers should doing...

 

 

Well, this is the guy who thought Hawke crying that their mom died right in front of them was a stupid reaction, so...

Well twisting my worlds fella? i said that why i should care and why my character who is my avatar should care about her when i didn't it is rpg game after all... so i should chose about who i care if i care at all.



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Well twisting my worlds fella? i said that why i should care and why my character who is my avatar should care about her when i didn't it is rpg game after all... so i should chose about who i care if i care at all.

So you  think it was a stupid reaction since you wouldn't have chosen it but were stuck with it? 



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Yes because he always was crying about peoples he killed with hawke oh i still remember his whines when i was killing mages for nothing well nope it wan't in case in fact he was one who was more toward templar side... and yes he started cry when inq sent soldiers to the keep doing pragmatic thing that soldiers should doing...

 

The fact that you deduce any sign of emotion as "crying" says a lot but ill try to break this down anyways. Just because a character changes doesnt conclude them as being the extreme end of that persona. Its been 10 years since Kirkwall, travelling with Cassandra, im sure he's seen things that have made Varric take innocent lives more seriously. Showing disapproval when hearing orders that would leave civilians defenseless and sadness at the sight of their slaughter, is not at all signs that he's become a "goody two shoe". Whether you like that or not is perfectly fine but thats hardly enough to label someone as a "goody two shoe"



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The fact that you deduce any sign of emotion as "crying" says a lot but ill try to break this down anyways. Just because a character changes doesnt conclude them as being the extreme end of that persona. Its been 10 years since Kirkwall, travelling with Cassandra, im sure he's seen things that have made Varric take innocent lives more seriously. Showing disapproval when hearing orders that would leave civilians defenseless and sadness at the sight of their slaughter, is not at all signs that he's become a "goody two shoe". Whether you like that or not is perfectly fine but thats hardly enough to label someone as a "goody two shoe"

Actually, it's only been about 4 years since the Kirkwall Incident. Bioware said the time between the games was basically how long it takes Cassandra and the others to get back to Orlais, so a few months at most. 

 

That said, we've already seen Varric show disapproval at the deaths of innocent people getting caught in the crossfire so it is hardly new to him. 



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Actually, it's only been about 4 years since the Kirkwall Incident. Bioware said the time between the games was basically how long it takes Cassandra and the others to get back to Orlais, so a few months at most. 

 

That said, we've already seen Varric show disapproval at the deaths of innocent people getting caught in the crossfire so it is hardly new to him. 

No idea how i got that number, thanks



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Also, Varric was pretty anti-brutality and slaughter. He might have approved of robbing a few folk, but murder always seemed to be a big no for him if his friendship/rivalry chart is anything to go by.

 

The conversation that sticks in my mind is if you ask him "Do you have any war stories?" I don't quite remember his response but it's not a nice one and you take a rivalry hit for it.

 

Varric's always been a man who'd rather live a quiet life, and him mourning the deaths of those innocent is well within his character, particularly as he has no stance on the mage-templar war and, as far as I can tell, sees it as a waste of lives.

 

I think he might be getting more aware and reflective, but he still seems the same to me in terms of his personality.



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So you try tell me that if someone else laughs i call it crying? no crying is grief and sorrow.You know that we were playing that 10 years well 7 years and gap beetwen 3 years and epilogue.And yes it is sign of being goody two shoes as he as i said cries over pragmatic and sane decision well because it isn't moral what pretty much is what goody two shoes are doing like leliana , wynne and alistair and now compare that to varric from da 2 he wasn't one here he is.

No you took what i said out of context and you know you did. So how is Varric disapproving of a decision, crying? The term "goody two shoes" (which you couldnt even say earlier) implies that someone is excessive in their "good doing", disappointment in a decision and grieving do not qualify him as one.



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No you took what i said out of context and you know you did. So how is Varric disapproving of a decision, crying? The term "goody two shoes" (which you couldnt even say earlier) implies that someone is excessive in their "good doing", disappointment in a decision and grieving do not qualify him as one.

No because he was crying because i didn't take moral route... This is pretty much waht goody two shoes is going as i said varric was crying because we didn't take moral route same for leliana , alistair and wynne.



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No because he was crying because i didn't take moral route... This is pretty much waht goody two shoes is going as i said varric was crying because we didn't take moral route same for leliana , alistair and wynne.

Im done with you