Aller au contenu

Super Smash Bros. 4


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
195 réponses à ce sujet

#151
Mr.House

Mr.House
  • Members
  • 23 338 messages

Marth will probably never be replaced. Ike will be replaced after the next release of a FE game on an home console.

Metroid doesn't really have any well known representative characters apart from Samus that could work in Smash. Don't say Ridley, that wouldn't work at all. He's too big, for starters, and his overall shape/body would just make him really akward. And I'm absolutely 100% sure that nobody wants to see Adam in smash. All the other Metroid character I can think of and just too obscure and/or unimportant to be made into smash fighters.

We have 6+ hunters, all who are vastly different from Samus(from weapon to alt form). Six from Metroid Prime hunters that was a popular multiplayer game on the DS and three from Corruption. there is no shortage of Metroid reps.



#152
TheChris92

TheChris92
  • Members
  • 10 639 messages

Marth will probably never be replaced. Ike will be replaced after the next release of a FE game on an home console.

Metroid doesn't really have any well known representative characters apart from Samus that could work in Smash. Don't say Ridley, that wouldn't work at all. He's too big, for starters, and his overall shape/body would just make him really akward. And I'm absolutely 100% sure that nobody wants to see Adam in smash. All the other Metroid character I can think of and just too obscure and/or unimportant to be made into smash fighters.

You mean like 80% of the Smash roster? Who the hell are these characters from this Fire Emblem anyway? I didn't know anything about Marth or Ike when I saw them -- I sure as hell didn't know much about Ness back on the 64 either, not to mention Pit, Mr Game & Watch, Ice Climbers, King Dedede or Meta Knight.


  • Il Divo et Mr.House aiment ceci

#153
Cyonan

Cyonan
  • Members
  • 19 368 messages

You mean like 80% of the Smash roster? Who the hell are these characters from this Fire Emblem anyway? I didn't know anything about Marth or Ike when I saw them -- I sure as hell didn't know much about Ness back on the 64 either, not to mention Pit, Mr Game & Watch, Ice Climbers, King Dedede or Meta Knight.

 

Yeah, the first two Fire Emblem characters(Marth and Roy) are from games that weren't even released in North America at the time. Their popularity in Melee is in part what brought the series over here, and there was finally remakes for Marth's games.

 

As far as Ike goes, I'm not sure how popular Fire Emblem was back then(it seems to really only have exploded in popularity with Awakening). I've been a fan since it came over here and have even tracked down english translations of the older games, but I was pretty much the only one of my friends who knew who Ike was when Brawl came out.

 

Although the characters do seem to be more major characters of the series for the most part. Fire Emblem characters have always been the lords except for Robin who is still a main character, and characters like Meta Knight and King Dedede are common villains for the Kirby games. Pitt was the main character of Kid Icarus, although it's an extremely old game(I'm pretty sure I've actually got the NES cartridge for that around here somewhere).

 

Not sure where Metriod sits on that and how much of what House mentioned are more major characters though, since I haven't played much of those games.



#154
The King of Dust

The King of Dust
  • Members
  • 635 messages

You mean like 80% of the Smash roster? Who the hell are these characters from this Fire Emblem anyway? I didn't know anything about Marth or Ike when I saw them -- I sure as hell didn't know much about Ness back on the 64 either, not to mention Pit, Mr Game & Watch, Ice Climbers, King Dedede or Meta Knight.

Marth, Ike, Ness, Pit, Game & Watch and Ice Climbers are all the main charaters of their respective games, so they're representative. Same goes for Lucina and Robin, the new FE characters. Meta Knight and King Dedede are known to anyone who's ever played a Kirby game. Not knowing who King Dedede is is similar to not knowing who Ridley is. Or Bowser even. One of the thing that's great about Smash is that it helps generate interest and promote some of the lesser known Nintendo franchises.

When it comes to Metroid though, I don't think adding the hunters would really accomplish anything. I don't consider them important enough to be viable Smash figthers. I'd take the Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man or Sonic over them any day.



#155
AresKeith

AresKeith
  • Members
  • 34 128 messages

I personally would remove Sonic, Megaman and Pac-Man, replace them with two Metroid reps and Ghirahim, replace Marth and Ike with two other FE characters and replace Lucario with Mewtwo.

 

I'd remove Megaman with a better version of Megaman :P



#156
Mr.House

Mr.House
  • Members
  • 23 338 messages

Yeah, the first two Fire Emblem characters(Marth and Roy) are from games that weren't even released in North America at the time. Their popularity in Melee is in part what brought the series over here, and there was finally remakes for Marth's games.

 

As far as Ike goes, I'm not sure how popular Fire Emblem was back then(it seems to really only have exploded in popularity with Awakening). I've been a fan since it came over here and have even tracked down english translations of the older games, but I was pretty much the only one of my friends who knew who Ike was when Brawl came out.

 

Although the characters do seem to be more major characters of the series for the most part. Fire Emblem characters have always been the lords except for Robin who is still a main character, and characters like Meta Knight and King Dedede are common villains for the Kirby games. Pitt was the main character of Kid Icarus, although it's an extremely old game(I'm pretty sure I've actually got the NES cartridge for that around here somewhere).

 

Not sure where Metriod sits on that and how much of what House mentioned are more major characters though, since I haven't played much of those games.

Ikes not a lord.....



#157
Cyonan

Cyonan
  • Members
  • 19 368 messages

Ikes not a lord.....

 

Eh, he's the lord like unit even if his class isn't lord.



#158
The Love Runner

The Love Runner
  • Members
  • 6 369 messages

I'd remove Megaman with a better version of Megaman :P


Just keep Bad Box Art Mega Man away from this game.

*shudders*
  • Mr.House et AresKeith aiment ceci

#159
TheChris92

TheChris92
  • Members
  • 10 639 messages

Marth, Ike, Ness, Pit, Game & Watch and Ice Climbers are all the main charaters of their respective games, so they're representative. Same goes for Lucina and Robin, the new FE characters. Meta Knight and King Dedede are known to anyone who's ever played a Kirby game. Not knowing who King Dedede is is similar to not knowing who Ridley is. Or Bowser even. One of the thing that's great about Smash is that it helps generate interest and promote some of the lesser known Nintendo franchises.

When it comes to Metroid though, I don't think adding the hunters would really accomplish anything. I don't consider them important enough to be viable Smash figthers. I'd take the Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man or Sonic over them any day.

And? Half the cast in Smash Bros, that is to say, the first, Melee and Brawl, are main and secondary characters of Nintendo's usual suspect titles. Are you trying to tell me that Lucario is a representative character of Pokemon now? I think we both know that Pikachu is that along with the trainer. Pit is the main character of a game that is litterally the very definition of obscurity. It's been lying in hybernation for over 20 years. After his sudden appearance in Brawl no one knew who he was at all. I've played a Kirby game and I don't recall either of those and I sure don't know anything about any Ice Climbers either -- Comparing them to Bowser is ridiculous -- they don't have the same iconic place in hearts of people around the world as any Mario or Zelda character would have.

 

And I don't consider Pac-Man, Mega Man or even Sonic important -- Most of all Pac-Man because he was never a character that functioned well with 3D, he carries no baggage, no personality whatsoever and this is generally why I dislike the Wii-Fit trainer too -- Although, while many people might know him, it doesn't change the fact that he's just completely uninteresting. He never even did well in 3D, and speaking of someone who didn't do well in 3D. I generally just dislike Sonic and any of his neon woodland creature friends so there isn't much to say there.

But we can exchange those final personal feelings 'till the sun goes out and it would precisely as much.


  • Mr.House aime ceci

#160
Mr.House

Mr.House
  • Members
  • 23 338 messages

And? Half the cast in Smash Bros, that is to say, the first, Melee and Brawl, are main and secondary characters of Nintendo's usual suspect titles. Pit is the main character of a game that is litterally the very definition of obscurity. It's been lying in hybernation for over 20 years. I've played a Kirby game and I don't recall either of those and I sure don't know anything about any Ice Climbers either -- Comparing them to Bowser is ridiculous -- they don't have the same iconic place in hearts of people around the world as any Mario or Zelda character would have.

 

And I don't consider Pac-Man, Mega Man or even Sonic important -- Most of all Pac-Man because he was never a character that functioned well with 3D, he carries no baggage, no personality whatsoever and this is generally why I dislike the Wii-Fit trainer too -- Although, while many people might know him, it doesn't change the fact that he's just completely uninteresting. He never even did well in 3D, and speaking of someone who didn't do well in 3D. I generally just dislike Sonic and any of his neon woodland creature friends so there isn't much to say there.

But we can exchange those final personal feelings 'till the sun goes out and it would precisely as much.

Heck look at Captain Falcon, He's only popular BECAUSE of Smash Bros., F-Zero has only had three games and most peopel that heard about Falcon and his famous punch was from smash bros.

 

So ya the whole they can't be obscure is a bunch of crap.



#161
AresKeith

AresKeith
  • Members
  • 34 128 messages

Heck look at Captain Falcon, He's only popular BECAUSE of Smash Bros., F-Zero has only had three games and most peopel that heard about Falcon and his famous punch was from smash bros.

 

So ya the whole they can't be obscure is a bunch of crap.

 

I want another F-Zero game  :unsure:



#162
EarthboundNess

EarthboundNess
  • Members
  • 3 333 messages

Welp, It'd appear we have what is at least close to a full roster leaked. Now with video evidence to back it up.

 

UXfuN2c.png

 

So newly confirmed would be-

 

Shulk

Bowser Jr.

Duck Hunt Dog

Dark Pit

 

And a few more returning characters confirmed.

 

Current speculation seems to suggest that this isn't the final roster (Its been 'proven' that the leaker's build doesn't have everything unlocked). 

 

One of the leakers said that more characters will be released as DLC (Possibly free and day one, simply because they don't fit on the cart? *shrugs*)

 

Wolf

Snake

Lucas

Ice Climbers

Chorus Men

 

Thoughts?



#163
Guest_Puddi III_*

Guest_Puddi III_*
  • Guests
lol the Duck Hunt dog? That's... so dumb.

And so awesome.
  • Clover Rider aime ceci

#164
EarthboundNess

EarthboundNess
  • Members
  • 3 333 messages

lol the Duck Hunt dog? That's... so dumb.

And so awesome.

 

Yup, bit of a weird one that.

 

Might be similar to Rosalina and Luma with both the Dog and Duck/s

 

Spoiler



#165
Guest_Puddi III_*

Guest_Puddi III_*
  • Guests

I guess Dog and Duck is the closest thing I'll get to Banjo and Kazooie in one of these games.

 

Also, liking Bowser Jr. with the clown car.



#166
Neoleviathan

Neoleviathan
  • Members
  • 689 messages
So is there still any room left on the rosters for unconfirmed characters? Cinemablend had something up, their writer doing one of those wouldn't these characters be cool list... And one of those ideas was the World Ends with You. I realized how exciting that would be if they got some characters on the roster, especially the 3DS version. The game was my favorite of the original DS, I think it was popular enough it could earn a place in Smash. But how likely would that happen, do you think Enix would be willing to lend it, I'm sure they still have plans for that IP.

#167
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

So is there still any room left on the rosters for unconfirmed characters? Cinemablend had something up, their writer doing one of those wouldn't these characters be cool list... And one of those ideas was the World Ends with You. I realized how exciting that would be if they got some characters on the roster, especially the 3DS version. The game was my favorite of the original DS, I think it was popular enough it could earn a place in Smash. But how likely would that happen, do you think Enix would be willing to lend it, I'm sure they still have plans for that IP.

Huh... that would be cool to get some DS/3DS exclusive games' characters in Smash. I doubt it would happen though. Unless Nintendo plans on having character DLC


  • Neoleviathan aime ceci

#168
Terca

Terca
  • Members
  • 1 397 messages

They usually even out the character roster, so there is room for ~6 more chars. In theory.


  • Neoleviathan aime ceci

#169
Guest_Puddi III_*

Guest_Puddi III_*
  • Guests

 

Shulk character trailer, if the leak needed any more confirmation.



#170
EarthboundNess

EarthboundNess
  • Members
  • 3 333 messages

Heh, that video title 'Looks like we don't have a choice!'

 

Xenoblade quote and  leak admittance. 

 

 



#171
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Finally found the demo and downloaded it, gameplay is smooth. I wish you could mess with the control scheme, using the control pad felt a bit unprecise when I first started playing. I really want to use the D-Pad but I'm getting used to it. Besides the controls the only thing I have a problem with is that Nintendogs assist. REALLY don't like that thing covering up the entire screen.



#172
Matieo

Matieo
  • Members
  • 427 messages

Has anyone else here been playing this?



#173
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

Has anyone else here been playing this?

Still been stuck with the 3DS demo. I want to buy it one day. I wish I had a Wii U too. I'd probably get both versions.



#174
saMoorai

saMoorai
  • Members
  • 2 745 messages

I'd remove Megaman with a better version of Megaman :P

 

sfxt-a15.jpg



#175
Guest_Catch This Fade_*

Guest_Catch This Fade_*
  • Guests

sfxt-a15.jpg

LMAO turrible. They could have probably used ANY design an they went with that one.