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[DeinonSlayer]

Eh, I have a rewrite where the Catalyst acknowledges that it will only activate for Shepard, where the portal is keyed only to Shepard's DNA via the Reapers, and the Reapers verbally acknowledging Shepard alone as a greater threat than the entire assembled Galactic force. And I of course have a lot more of the statements still made in game along the lines of "Shepard, you were the only one who could ever have pulled this off". It's never explicitly stated in the actual game of course, but you get a lot of those moments that it's Shepard, and Shepard alone who has the importance. And yes, I believe that it's as it should be.
 
To be frank, I believe Shepard should be the 'Chosen One' of sorts (although I have him being more of an Unchosen One).

Eh. It's your fic, it's your choice. I see things differently. Don't figure we'll be changing each other's minds any time soon.

Though I do remember at one point you said your Cerberus would draft my Shepard after the war...

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Eh. It's your fic, it's your choice. I see things differently. Don't figure we'll be changing each other's minds any time soon.

Though I do remember at one point you said your Cerberus would draft my Shepard after the war...

 

Now that I think about it? I don't know if I would or not anymore. You too fettered.

[CrutchCricket]

lol I think Massively is following in his mentor TIM's footsteps quite nicely.

 

He started out a bit extreme, but seemingly on the ball overall, and now he's spouting off caricatured exaggerations of his past claims for the evulz, actively opposing the rest of the galaxy and praising the Reapers.

 

Don't stick yourself with Reaper-tech Massively, it's not worth it!

[DeathScepter]

ME might be trolling you guys. If the enemy is powerful and they  have a weakness, and if you can exploit it, they don't  deserve that power regardless how or why they do deserve it. Neither the Weak or the Foolish should never have or let to have power, spells trouble for all if they do. That is why the Reapers should be either slaves to your Shepard or destroy by your Shepard, or make green light because of Shepard. For they are foolish against a prepared threat by The Shepard. That is I will refuse Refuse ending.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

lol I think Massively is following in his mentor TIM's footsteps quite nicely.

 

He started out a bit extreme, but seemingly on the ball overall, and now he's spouting off caricatured exaggerations of his past claims for the evulz, actively opposing the rest of the galaxy and praising the Reapers.

 

Don't stick yourself with Reaper-tech Massively, it's not worth it!

 

I won't. I'll stick it in other people. Get that army of drones I always wanted.

 

I'm with Death Scepter though. I'm not necessarily trolling you guys, but I'll be honest. I am personally infuriated at the existence of people who don't contribute to the war (to an extent this applies to reality as well). To an extent, yeah I do want to kill them. They're worthless dirtbags not pulling their weight. In my opinion, they should be rounded up and killed. They haven't earned their keep. I'm infuriated more by the survival of a galaxy that doesn't deserve to live than by its destruction by Reapers who are illogical but wield power. Their survival, and support for their survival, is evil in my opinion. 

 

I take a lot of Heinlen's work a bit seriously: People who contribute to the future of the species get the power and benefits. The ones that don't are, rightfully in my opinion, not afforded the same privileges or benefits. I view them as lesser humans whose only purpose is to serve the whim of their superiors, and, in times of crisis, make their life forfeit so that the stronger can survive. To an extreme, the Reapers represent an admirable view in my opinion. Not necessarily one I'm normally expounding, but in the context of the circumstances? Perhaps I can sympathize with that.

 

Honestly, I don't see the issue with what I'd view to be the future of the galaxy in my fic. I don't view democracy as particularly enticing or desirable. It's on the same level as pure fascism: despite what might appear to be some similarities, I really only believe in the transcendence ideal behind it, and, to a degree, an ideal in the ubermensch (though not physical in form, but more mental). I believe in the fundamental difference between humans, with those who fit the ideal of ubermensch being the superiors. I'd say that, ideally, I'd be aiming for my version of Plato's ideal behind Guardianship or Aristocracy. On a macro-scale, I support the ideal of imperium.

[von uber]

Depends how you define contributing to the future of the species.

[Farangbaa]

Depends how you define contributing to the future of the species.

 

Oh oh, I know this!

 

Sperm.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Depends how you define contributing to the future of the species.

 

Sure. My views are disgusting to you, and yours are to mine.

[DeinonSlayer]

Sure. My views are disgusting to you, and yours are to mine.

If absolutely nothing else, their economic activity produces the tax revenue which makes the funding and equipment of the military possible.

I, personally, liked the system Heinlein drew up in Starship Troopers (the book, not that shitty movie), where citizenship is earned through service, crimes punished with the lash or the noose.

[DeathScepter]

I don't believe a true ubermensch, it is an ideal and idealisms can be good or bad in context.  In the end, In striving into be the True Ubermensch can be a good thing. Well No matter what, a good leader will understand his weaknesses as well as his strengths and willingness to listen to both his enemies as well as his allies. The Best Leaders are both balance and aware people. No matter what style of government we have, having strong, cunning, aware and balance leaders will be important. Even the Weak joined together can be a threatening force to the strong if the strong are foolish or too relax in their leadership.

 

 

Personally I do have a firm understanding of both Jedi and Sith Philosophies.

 

Addressing ME's points about People that do contribute to society are the strength of that society, In which I do consider them the strong and the cunning. To have true power, wisdom and cunning are important to become stronger and gaining more power. True we all started weak at one time, but with wisdom and cunning, people can grow to become stronger than they were before. Also Those whom are foolish and lax, will always become weak in the end. 

 

 

The Relationship between the strong and weak is an interesting lecture in and of itself. 

[KaiserShep]

I don't know about you, but my decision is easy: Let them die. The Reapers are the only beings that really fit the kind of necessary philosophy I'd support. They deserve the victory most. It's victory or death for me. It's not so for anyone else on a macro-scale. That means it's only death from my perspective.

 

Deserve is a funny word. What do the reapers really show that make them worthy of winning out over this cycle? Everything that happened since ME1 was a gradual buildup of their numerous failures coming back to undo them. Over each cycle, they failed to completely eradicate traces of their existence, as well as the plans for the Crucible. They were not thorough enough. Over time each cycle had some kind of discovery about a flaw in the design of their trap, and we were able to exploit it. If they were truly deserving of victory, it wouldn't be handed to them by refusing, they'd simply kill Shepard, destroy the Crucible and reduce the rest of the fleet and each to ashes. But they didn't.

 

And even if Shepard refuses, the reapers are still defeated, just not as quickly.

[Ryriena]

I'd have liked her to assume Dr. Cole's role. Or a team member for the sheer "pass the popcorn" potential of the Cerberus 2IC on an Alliance ship.

I kind of actually found this to my liking instead of the crap with Jacob.....