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Is the Grey Warden a deserter?


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Obviously this is just speculation at this point, since we know next to nothing about him.  What got me wondering whether he was a deserter, was this image:

 

 

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While I'm not sure exactly what is going there except some people being executed in the background, I've seen it described elsewhere on the forums as the Grey Warden escaping the gallows. (by recruitment?)

 

Assuming for a moment that the description of him narrowly avoiding execution in that scene is correct (a big assumption), could that mean that he was sentenced to death for deserting the Wardens? I can't recall now whether it was ever mentioned in the lore, but how are Grey Warden deserters dealt with? Is it like the Night's Watch from Game of Thrones, where running off usually is a death sentence? 



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Obviously this is just speculation at this point, since we know next to nothing about him.  What got me wondering whether he was a deserter, was this image:

 

 

2yuxc1d.jpg

 

 

 

While I'm not sure exactly what is going there except some people being executed in the background, I've seen it described elsewhere on the forums as the Grey Warden escaping the gallows. (by recruitment?)

 

Assuming for a moment that the description of him narrowly avoiding execution in that scene is correct (a big assumption), could that mean that he was sentenced to death for deserting the Wardens? I can't recall now whether it was ever mentioned in the lore, but how are Grey Warden deserters dealt with? Is it like the Night's Watch from Game of Thrones, where running off usually is a death sentence? 

No the blight  was over so it was pointless too stay on



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I don't care, I just want him.

 

O-on my team, I mean. Ahem.

 

Okay, serious answer now: I don't know if the image shows him escaping from his own execution or not, but him ripping the grey warden necklace off him gives me the impression that something made him want to leave the grey wardens or that he feels ashamed for it now. Either way I'm super interested.


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Now that Johnny Cash song is stuck in my head..."I hung my head".



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No the blight  was over so it was pointless too stay on

 

hope your not serious


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You hope his not serious is what?


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Anders was a grey warden deserter in DA2, actually. There are implications they hassle you about it, but it doesn't seem like they were too set on getting him back. It's not smiled one, but they figure everyone will come back when it's time for their calling, anyway. The warden in DA:I might have some more issues if he knows more than Anders about the organization, though, and he probably does. Can't have someone running off and telling everyone where the old gods bodies are buried. 



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Obviously this is just speculation at this point, since we know next to nothing about him.  What got me wondering whether he was a deserter, was this image:

 

 

*SNIP*

 

 

While I'm not sure exactly what is going there except some people being executed in the background, I've seen it described elsewhere on the forums as the Grey Warden escaping the gallows. (by recruitment?)

 

Assuming for a moment that the description of him narrowly avoiding execution in that scene is correct (a big assumption), could that mean that he was sentenced to death for deserting the Wardens? I can't recall now whether it was ever mentioned in the lore, but how are Grey Warden deserters dealt with? Is it like the Night's Watch from Game of Thrones, where running off usually is a death sentence? 

 

Look at the picture. Look at all the masks. Are we sure he's being hung by other Wardens? Orlesians, yes, but Wardens? Hmmm...

 

Anders never seemed to be in much trouble for deserting. Being an abomination, yeah, but I don't think the other Grey Wardens were really concerned about him. Annoyed, maybe, but not overly bothered.

 

Of course, why he's tearing off the amulet is an interesting question. Maybe it's not something he did, but something the other Wardens did. Maybe the Orlesians behind him were simply hanging any Warden they spotted for something that happened. (Wasn't there an article or something where Cassandra was leading an assault on a Warden Keep?) And whatever they did made our Warden decide to leave?



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What if he was one of the Wardens who served under Janika/was stationed wherever Larius showed up and he was the only one who managed to remain untainted by Corypheus's influence as he started doing dastardly things that we expect Tevinter magisters to do? It'd tie in to Cassandra leading an assault on the wardens since she and Varric are two of perhaps five people outside the wardens to know about Corypheus and she's smart enough to read between the lines about how Varric ended the story.



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Considering Grey Wardens aren't supposed to get involved in politics and the Inquisition will at least have some kind of political role, I think a Warden companion would be a deserter or other kind of outcast by default.



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If the Warden is a deserter, how would he be allowed to be part of the Inquisition? As far as I understood it, all of your companions would be in a position of some sort of power, rather than a band of misfits running around together like in DA2.


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Considering Grey Wardens aren't supposed to get involved in politics and the Inquisition will at least have some kind of political role, I think a Warden companion would be a deserter or other kind of outcast by default.

That definitely worked out great with Anders, right? lol



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Wardens truly do not deserve their fate. Well some of them certainly don't. Very tragic. 



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Look at the picture. Look at all the masks. Are we sure he's being hung by other Wardens? Orlesians, yes, but Wardens? Hmmm...

 

 

That is what I'm curious about. In the A Song of Ice and Fire universe (a.k.a. Game of Thrones) deserting the Night's Watch isn't just considered a capital offense by the order itself, its the law of the land. Local lords who have no direct affiliation with the Night's Watch will for example order the execution of deserters, if they are caught on their lands. In the very beginning of the series a deserter from the Night's Watch is captured by Stark soldiers, and Ned Stark executes the man personally.

 

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Would local Orlesian authorities execute deserters from the Grey Wardens?


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If he's a deserter, Anders would be one as well and fortunately we were given the option to kill him.  If he becomes a companion, hopefully he won't be an idiot like Anders.


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If he is a companion I hope he's a temporary companion because he is some what old, don't want him keeling over in battle :P and on the note of him being a deserter, a possibility.

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I just want to point out that's theres no oath or anything binding grey wardens to the grey wardens but like Riordan says its the corruption that binds them. Also there are a number of characters that have left. Anders ditched, King Alistair and drunken bar Alistair ditched, Fionna ditched. cant think of any others at the moment... 



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What I don't understand is if he is a deserter, why is all his concept armor a grey warden uniform?



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I get more of this feeling that he's not so much a deserter, but refuses to put the person at the gallows to death. The guys noose is cut, the Warden is pulling away some sort of crest he is wearing in almost disgust, bodies flopped to the side, I think he refused to take part in something that was against his code. Maybe it's not the wardens who put this together, but he was taking part in it maybe as a sellsword? Since there is that idea the blight is over and possibly there's not much for a warden to do otherwise, he goes around as a merc to survive. 

 

I get this feeling that clothing he's wearing is his underclothing, and he tossed away his armor or something to show how against this he is.



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He is almost wearing the same thing as the prisoner. He is definitely leaving all that Grey Warden stuff behind. He (if it was his) even left the sword behind.



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If the Warden is a deserter, how would he be allowed to be part of the Inquisition? As far as I understood it, all of your companions would be in a position of some sort of power, rather than a band of misfits running around together like in DA2.

For all we know, he could have been a Commander of the Grey before deserting.



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He is almost wearing the same thing as the prisoner. He is definitely leaving all that Grey Warden stuff behind. He (if it was his) even left the sword behind.

I don't think he is, what would a prisoner need with gloves on? His sleeves are rolled up as well, while the prisioner has sleeveless, the rolled up part makes me think he rolled them up to more along the lines of kick ass.



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For all we know, he could have been a Commander of the Grey before deserting.

 

I'm hoping he was/is a high ranking Warden



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I don't think he is, what would a prisoner need with gloves on? His sleeves are rolled up as well, while the prisioner has sleeveless, the rolled up part makes me think he rolled them up to more along the lines of kick ass.


That is a nice observation. I never noticed that before. Huh.



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I don't think he is, what would a prisoner need with gloves on? His sleeves are rolled up as well, while the prisioner has sleeveless, the rolled up part makes me think he rolled them up to more along the lines of kick ass.

That's why I said almost. I didn't think about the gloves. But the brown shift shirt thing looks more like the prisoner than anyone else in the crowd.