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And I said hey goodbye to romance, goodbye to friends. {ME3 Ending L.I. discussion}


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, Traynor is a kinky devil I wouldnt doubt she used Kahlee Sanders "adjustable massage wand" so Babies aren't something that she's likely to want.

Traynor may be kinky, but in her goodbye scene, if romanced, she says she like to have 2 kids.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=B9WGVg8JdUM



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Traynor may be kinky, but in her goodbye scene, if romanced, she says she like to have 2 kids.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=B9WGVg8JdUM

Probably never saw that because I never beat the game with her romanced. Also since she's only going with femshep does she intend for invitro or adoption? Or Jacob will lend a hand i'm sure he loves knocking up women. {my most recent Traynor Shep has rebounded from Jacob so that makes it even worse]



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Probably never saw that because I never beat the game with her romanced. Also since she's only going with femshep does she intend for invitro or adoption? Or Jacob will lend a hand i'm sure he loves knocking up women. {my most recent Traynor Shep has rebounded from Jacob so that makes it even worse]

Doctors and scientists are working on a way for two women to have a baby without the help of a male. Just google and you will  some articles explaining it. I would not be surprised by the time 2186 comes around that 2 women would be able to have a baby.



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I think Liara, Ashley and Kaidan have it the worst. They already had to suffer through losing Shepard once now s/he is dead again it's especially bad for the VS who just got Shepard back after a few tense months together.

 

Liara probably has it hard knowing that she can't ever get Shepard, who isn't much more than cordially indifferent to her on a personal level.

 

Meanwhile, Ashley was driven insane by my Shepard. And subsequently executed by him.

 

I honestly disagree though. Miranda has it pretty hard being separated from Shepard. She let's that little nugget slip. She's not one to really let things slip like that. Hell, she's tempted to break into a maximum security holding facility just to be with him. That's dedication. Ashley meanwhile gets butthurt over Shepard doing what he always does, just not while wearing the jersey of her beloved alliance. She's not worth my Shepard. He deserves so much better, and so much more than her.



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I am not sure about Miranda.  When we first meet her she considers herself to be perfect and certainly on the elitist side of the ego.   Shep showed her that it is ok and normal to not be perfect and to fail sometimes is a good thing to learn from.  As a LI she found there is someone who would love her even if she isn't perfect.  I think after mourning the loss of her love she would be able to find another to fill the gap.  Or least I would hope so.



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Buried under some rubble by the Vaux Haul Station in London Circa 2186. Saying to himself- "Damn I really should have banged miranda a few more times. Dammit. I'm always running out of time to tap dat". Ugghh, I hope James and Garrus are digging me out of this mess cause dammit by back hurts like I've been rode by a 700 pound Krogan Hooker on the Citadel. I can't believe Harbinger herpaderp'd and didn't kill me. Hahahahaha, what a scrub. That was one weird dream tho. Ha, can't believe that kid was the catalyst. Ha. Glad I woke up from that crap. Man, I am starving, hope I get some steak when I get outta here. Cause I f*ckin' luv steak". 

 

 

My Shep's just chillin', under some rubble. But he's alive.... 

 

Shepard always survives. 



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Liara probably has it hard knowing that she can't ever get Shepard, who isn't much more than cordially indifferent to her on a personal level.
 
Meanwhile, Ashley was driven insane by my Shepard. And subsequently executed by him.
 
I honestly disagree though. Miranda has it pretty hard being separated from Shepard. She let's that little nugget slip. She's not one to really let things slip like that. Hell, she's tempted to break into a maximum security holding facility just to be with him. That's dedication. Ashley meanwhile gets butthurt over Shepard doing what he always does, just not while wearing the jersey of her beloved alliance. She's not worth my Shepard. He deserves so much better, and so much more than her.

Just floating this out there; did Kaidan deserve better than a commander who hung him out to get nuked solely so said commander could bang (and later execute) someone he admittedly despised?

Still, you can add me to the list of people who thought it was BS that Miranda dies in ME3 if you break up with her.

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Liara probably has it hard knowing that she can't ever get Shepard, who isn't much more than cordially indifferent to her on a personal level.

 

Meanwhile, Ashley was driven insane by my Shepard. And subsequently executed by him.

 

I honestly disagree though. Miranda has it pretty hard being separated from Shepard. She let's that little nugget slip. She's not one to really let things slip like that. Hell, she's tempted to break into a maximum security holding facility just to be with him. That's dedication. Ashley meanwhile gets butthurt over Shepard doing what he always does, just not while wearing the jersey of her beloved alliance. She's not worth my Shepard. He deserves so much better, and so much more than her.

 

You realize this is about romanced characters, right?

 

Sure Miranda would undoubtedly take it hard (given Kai Lame kills her if you break up with her, she's clearly hung up on romanced Shepard)  But to my Shepard, Ash says "I doubted you once Shepard, and I lost you.  That's not happening again"  

 

She was clearly broken up over Shepard's first death.  After finally working things out, getting back together, only to lose him again?  These writers must be sadists.


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I am not sure about Miranda.  When we first meet her she considers herself to be perfect and certainly on the elitist side of the ego.   Shep showed her that it is ok and normal to not be perfect and to fail sometimes is a good thing to learn from.  As a LI she found there is someone who would love her even if she isn't perfect.  I think after mourning the loss of her love she would be able to find another to fill the gap.  Or least I would hope so.

I'm not sure about finding another love but I think she might grieve less. Tali begs shepard to come back to her. I don't remember what Garrus says to his L.I. Jack says come back because she's getting laid after this. But Miranda says to be careful and Shepard uses her own words "I can't promise that" and she responds with a dry chuckle and "I know... bastard." {honestly wasnt sure how to phrase that throwing in the chuckle in between quotation marks seemed wrong] Kaiden tells a non romanced shepard "We both know this is goodbye" I dont know if he's less accepting of shepard's death if they are L.I.s {or some might argue hes expecting Shepard to come back but not himself.} But anyway I digress. Miranda seems prepared for Shepard's death if romanced. But I doubt she'll ever love again then of course one could say after Jack lost her own boyfriend she'd never love again and she found Shepard so hypothetical in the schroedinger multiverse. If Jack can get over a dead love for shepard , Miranda might be able to get over shepard for someone else... My brain hurts.



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I could never shoot Ash or Virmire Survivor for that matter. That's just sociopathic to the 8th degree. 

 

In the original script there was a moment where you had to choose between saving the Virmire Survivor or saving Liara. 

 

Very tough, I don't know what I would have done. Liara can be a bit much, but I really do like her, even when I don't romance her. And I always have a connection to the VS, and especially if I romanced Ash, obviously. 

 

It would have been an incredibly emotional moment if BioWare would have kept that choice. Tears would have ensued. 

 

Also, the level of hate for Kai Leng would have gone off the charts-It's lengs Fault in the Original Script. 



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Doctors and scientists are working on a way for two women to have a baby without the help of a male. Just google and you will  some articles explaining it. I would not be surprised by the time 2186 comes around that 2 women would be able to have a baby.

Heck, "Tank Bred" is a thing in ME universe, so even Cortez and Shep could have child that is genetically theirs if they wanted.  Speaking of whom, I think Cortez would probably have it the worst.  Lost a husband to the collectors, was finally able to move on, and then his second love promptly dies as well.  Poor guy.



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Liara probably has it hard knowing that she can't ever get Shepard, who isn't much more than cordially indifferent to her on a personal level.

 

Meanwhile, Ashley was driven insane by my Shepard. And subsequently executed by him.

 

I honestly disagree though. Miranda has it pretty hard being separated from Shepard. She let's that little nugget slip. She's not one to really let things slip like that. Hell, she's tempted to break into a maximum security holding facility just to be with him. That's dedication. Ashley meanwhile gets butthurt over Shepard doing what he always does, just not while wearing the jersey of her beloved alliance. She's not worth my Shepard. He deserves so much better, and so much more than her.

Don't start this man please don't.



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Kai Leng, Cereal Killer, Vase Filler, Mega Troll Extrarodinaire was supposed to kill Liara or the Virmire Survivor?

That would have been something I suppose. As the game was it was hard to take him seriously I still laugh when I shoot his gunship and he tells me "The real threat is in the room with you" Do you mean my squadmates? Or wait did you mean the beacon? Or are you talking about the dead scientists I could get a disease from them.... Oh you're talking about yourself. Isn't that just precious. Whose da widdle wannabe cyborg ninja yes you are, yes you are.

 

I imagine my shepards funeral playing out.

 

I'm commander Shepard and this is my favorite will and testament on the citadel. First to Ashley J. Williams. For her years of loyalty including Horizon I bequeath.... A boot to the head. And to my darling love Samantha Traynor I bequeath my apartment should it survive this war and my entire bank account should it not and my dogtags. Also all remnants of my armor and helmet. To Vega I leave my collection of model space ships and a boot to the head. And one more for Ashley. To Garrus Vakarian my oldest and dearest friend I bequeath my massive collection of level 10 firearms.... and a boot to the head and another to Ashley. To Jacob and Brynn in celebration of their upcoming nuptials and for letting me be the Priiiize. I bequeath A coat hanger.... and a boot to the head. And one more for Ashley. And finally for the Normandy which has served me and my crew for several long years I leave it to my hamster. Oh and give my fish to Javik and a boot to the head. And one more for Ashley. And lastly for my Volus Lawyer I bequeath Tali to.... hack your... olfactory unit into your .... What? OH GOD THE SMELL!!!


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Heck, "Tank Bred" is a thing in ME universe, so even Cortez and Shep could have child that is genetically theirs if they wanted.  Speaking of whom, I think Cortez would probably have it the worst.  Lost a husband to the collectors, was finally able to move on, and then his second love promptly dies as well.  Poor guy.

No. Samantha or femshep(if able) would get pregnant and 9 months later have a baby

 

With Cortez and maleshep they would have to adopt.



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Kai Leng, Cereal Killer, Vase Filler, Mega Troll Extrarodinaire was supposed to kill Liara or the Virmire Survivor?
That would have been something I suppose. As the game was it was hard to take him seriously I still laugh when I shoot his gunship and he tells me "The real threat is in the room with you" Do you mean my squadmates? Or wait did you mean the beacon? Or are you talking about the dead scientists I could get a disease from them.... Oh you're talking about yourself. Isn't that just precious. Whose da widdle wannabe cyborg ninja yes you are, yes you are.

Ah, Kai Leng...
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No. Samantha or femshep(if able) would get pregnant and 9 months later have a baby

 

With Cortez and maleshep they would have to adopt.

However, genetically, the child of Cortez and Maleshep would be just as much theirs as one between Femshep and Traynor.  In both cases an egg would have to be artificially modified in a lab, the only difference is that Femshep and Traynor are capable of carrying the egg, whereas maleshep would need a surrogate or lab equipment.

 

but this is off topic.  Anyways, I stand by Steve having it worse of all the possible LIs in terms of Shepards death.  However Jack comes really close if you paragon romanced her.



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I just booted up my traynormancer save and during the party in quiet second phase I walked over to the upstairs area where Tali is usually talking about being mortified about traynor and Edi's conversation and Joker is calling out Traynor's fixation with Edi and says that Traynor is obsessed with robots but it's ok Shepards like 30 percent cybernetic now and that if traynor's ever giving Shepard a reach around it's to check and see if her back lights up traynor says it doesnt. But whats really funny is if you walk back to them with Ash in your party.

 

Ash:Hey Joker why not drinking Is it because of your bone disease?

Joker: Yeah i'm afraid i'll get drunk and hold shepard at gunpoint to defend Udina... Oh wait YOU did that SOBER.

 

and then later.

 

Ash: There is noone i'd rather have up on the ship during a mission then you two.

Joker: And theres noone we'd rather have on the ground getting shot at

Traynor: Getting your face smashed by robots

Joker: dodging grenades then you.

Ash: you two are dicks.



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I just booted up my traynormancer save and during the party in quiet second phase I walked over to the upstairs area where Tali is usually talking about being mortified about traynor and Edi's conversation and Joker is calling out Traynor's fixation with Edi and says that Traynor is obsessed with robots but it's ok Shepards like 30 percent cybernetic now and that if traynor's ever giving Shepard a reach around it's to check and see if her back lights up traynor says it doesnt. But whats really funny is if you walk back to them with Ash in your party.

 

Ash:Hey Joker why not drinking Is it because of your bone disease?

Joker: Yeah i'm afraid i'll get drunk and hold shepard at gunpoint to defend Udina... Oh wait YOU did that SOBER.

 

and then later.

 

Ash: There is noone i'd rather have up on the ship during a mission then you two.

Joker: And theres noone we'd rather have on the ground getting shot at

Traynor: Getting your face smashed by robots

Joker: dodging grenades then you.

Ash: you two are dicks.

That is funny

the Ashley version

 

the Kaidan version



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Just floating this out there; did Kaidan deserve better than a commander who hung him out to get nuked solely so said commander could bang (and later execute) someone he admittedly despised?

Still, you can add me to the list of people who thought it was BS that Miranda dies in ME3 if you break up with her.

 

Probably. Not that I really cared at the time (or still do). Hell, I headcanon my Shepard forgetting his name. He was a wasted resource, I'll give him that. I did save Ashley to screw her (literally first, then figuratively).

 

This coming from the guy who realistically defends Kaidan as the only real choice as VS. 



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Something just occured to me. If you choose to have a quiet second phase of the citadel party Cortez says he really wants some Fish and Chips. Before ME3 got released and gave him a name Major Coates was called "The Big Ben Sniper" and "Major FishnChips"



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My femSheps lived and are raising families with their Liaras



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LBB means Little Blue Babies right? Probably because it's a bit catchier then Garrus "adopt a krogan war orphan" or "Quarian toddlers in hamster balls" Which I really hope is a thing because that would be hilarious just having them rolling around in the background adorably hilarious. Thane's gone and already has a son. It's never really addresed if Shep will be Kolyat's stepmom. Jacob has Brynn, Miranda is infertile {probably for the same reason you can heavy bone weave shepard but not Joker which would probably result in normal bones] Jack has her students but i'm sure she'd pop out a little biotic badass baby "goo goo ga ga  I will destwoy you!," Kaiden and Ashley don't really bring up kids {i wouldnt know though I don't relationship them} Cortez might adopt but he doesnt bring it up, Traynor is a kinky devil I wouldnt doubt she used Kahlee Sanders "adjustable massage wand" so Babies aren't something that she's likely to want. Diana Allers would end up with Trillian Syndrome, and Vega... Well actually Vega could be a good dad but he'd either drop out of N7 to be raise the kid or that would be the first baby to survive N7 training. {of course it would it's part Shepard} Samara probably wouldnt have another child even if it was with shepard and Kelly is too traumatized for now. Hey maybe she's getting treatment with Talitha.

 

I highlighted the parts that are making me laugh so hard im crying. This made my day.



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I would say Ash/Kaiden got it worse in the end. As they, went through her/his death twice. In my play through, Kaiden would've nearly lost it the second time around. I head cannoned, that I let my clone switch places with me at the finale push. So she could live as Commander Shepard for a day and land on the weirdo planet with her team.... At least, I could imagine my Shepard doing something like this objective.

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I suspect that Liara would possibly be hit worst if, for no other reason, than the fact that she would outlive any of Shepard's alternate LI's. However, due to her long life span, she would likely be a voice that carried Shepard's legacy for the longest period of time. Regardless, my Shepard lived so she won't be hurt so badly when he finally passes on.



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I've always kinda thought that asari in general take a more philosophical approach to relationships with other species, if only because, all things being equal, they outlive everyone else (except perhaps krogan). They enjoy what they have while they have it, then they move on. Shep being shep maybe things would be different for Liara, but I think that while she would still mourn, maybe even for a considerable amount of time, she would have an easier time letting go.