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Bromance in inquisition(why can't we be friends)


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Why's it an either/or?

 

The game can have deep romantic relationships with romance-able characters, and deep friendship relationships with those who want to only be friends. 

 

Having both kinds of content is great. 

 

BTW, that doesn't rule out deep sibling/etc. relationships with family members, too, if we get those, again.  :)


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Well speaking as another gay male, it's less about being able to romance somebody and more about being able to romance somebody while simultaneously kicking major ass. If you say mental sexual gratification is irrelevant, you are SORELY mistaken. BioWare's strength is companion relationships and denying romantic potential can only serve as a DETRIMENT to companionship. It's nice being able to be friends with everyone. It's not nice at all to not be able to take it to the next level.

You speak as if the resources aren't going to be spent on character development. If you don't think romance is a good part of that, I'm sorry to say that you know nothing about love.

 

 

Yeah, the idea of no romances at all in a character driven game seems.....I dunno.

 

I like the ability to develop those deeper friendships (Grunt! Wrex! Morrigan! Allistair! Garrus! Varric!), have those 'I hate you but I'm with you' (Alistair in certain situations, Jack, Anders in certain situations, Merril...), and the romances.

 

I'd be 'Yeah! Great friendship, My so-and-so was close....' but really, in terms of being 'connected' to the characters or fondly remembering them, I elevate the romanced ones that i feel a connection to based on the character above the deep friendship ones...



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hadn't thought if that. But honestly, is it such a huge deal that he forgot to use impersonal nouns? You aren't being put on the back burner simply because he referred to a male warden in a single interview.
Edit: balls, thanks for the clarification

 

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I wouldn't mind putting a lot of emphasis on friendships, or at least just as much emphasis on the romance. I enjoyed ME's Shepard and Garrus bromance. So here's hoping they can do something like that on this series.

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Me too. Speaking as a gay male, I understand that a lot of LGBT folk like the romances because it's content rarely found in other games, but a lot of them on this board (as well as others, of course) go crazy over virtual sex that it's mind boggling.

 

I don't think it's as to do with the sex part as it is with the emotional aspect of romance in the games.

 

I really don't like the word 'Bromance', it's an insinuating term. 

 

Haha this comment seemed to ruffle a few feathers. I never used to mind that term until I heard Simon Pegg or Nick Frost (forget which one - they are essentially one person after all :P ) talk about it in an interview. It basically boils down to yet another unfortunate byproduct of the patriarchy. Two men cannot be close friends without labeling themselves this ridiculous term "bromance." There is no equivalent term for two women friends.

 

I feel I miss out on content sometimes because I don't romance certain characters.

 

Me too. It's such a shame... I don't want to have to sleep with every character I want to get to know better. :P


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http://www.pcgamer.c...the-open-world/
 
Here is a link, unless you found it already.


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Me too. Speaking as a gay male, I understand that a lot of LGBT folk like the romances because it's content rarely found in other games, but a lot of them on this board (as well as others, of course) go crazy over virtual sex that it's mind boggling. Personally, I really hope that Bioware's next IP does away with all romantic content and actually uses those resources for better things.

 

As a gay male, I don't even play gay characters! I understand how it can be compelling to experience a second gay life (dunno if that's how I should frame it), but honestly, I'm just fine being a hot elven chick sleeping with Alistair, or anything that resembles him. If I want to have some "gay action", I could easily get it in real life ;)


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Well speaking as another gay male, it's less about being able to romance somebody and more about being able to romance somebody while simultaneously kicking major ass. If you say mental sexual gratification is irrelevant, you are SORELY mistaken. It doesn't matter if the relationship isn't "real". It's still nice to experience it in a roleplaying game.

BioWare's strength is companion relationships and denying romantic potential can only serve as a DETRIMENT to companionship. It's nice being able to be friends with everyone. It's not nice at all to not be able to take it to the next level. You're actually requesting to LIMIT relationships. That's very short-sighted.

You speak as if the resources aren't going to be spent on character development anyway. If you don't think romance is a realistic part of that, I'm sorry to say that you know nothing about love, virtually or otherwise. Romance can and very often develops from friendship. Why do you want to take that away?

In fact, on my canon playthough, I intend to be friendly with everyone. I'd by lying if I said one of those companions won't intrigue me to the point of romance. You'd be lying too, unless you completely dislike everyone's personality or not into relationships. In that case, you're not the target audience of the romantic plot anyway.

Not sure that reply entirely matches with the statement. I can't see anyone advocating for complete removal of romance, but i don't see why everyone needs to be romanceable what's wrong with characters like Varric and Aveline? And what's wrong with having friendship paths of equal depth and connection? Especially if they occur simultaneously to a romance?

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I don't think it's as to do with the sex part as it is with the emotional aspect of romance in the games.


Haha this comment seemed to ruffle a few feathers. I never used to mind that term until I heard Simon Pegg or Nick Frost (forget which one - they are essentially one person after all :P ) talk about it in an interview. It basically boils down to yet another unfortunate byproduct of the patriarchy. Two men cannot be close friends without labeling themselves this ridiculous term "bromance." There is no equivalent term for two women friends.


Me too. It's such a shame... I don't want to have to sleep with every character I want to get to know better. :P

The female term is "ho-mance", I've got plenty of friends that use it. Also, patriarchy has nothing to so with it. Bro meaning as close as a brother, it's just a harmless play on words. Last paragraph is good sense :)

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The female term is "ho-mance", I've got plenty of friends that use it. Also, patriarchy has nothing to so with it. Bro meaning as close as a brother, it's just a harmless play on words. Last paragraph is good sense :)

 

Ho-mance??! :P Oh lord.



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Not sure that reply entirely matches with the statement. I can't see anyone advocating for complete removal of romance, but i don't see why everyone needs to be romanceable what's wrong with characters like Varric and Aveline? And what's wrong with having friendship paths of equal depth and connection? Especially if they occur simultaneously to a romance?

 

I usually edit my posts a lot. :)

 

Anyway, it's not about not being able to romance everyone. If a character has their own reasons to refuse/not care about a romantic advance, then obviously it's not an issue to me. It's more about not being able to romance anyone for the sake of having no romances at all. My favorite relationships in DA2 were actually with Aveline and Carver, and although my canon relationship is with friendship romance Anders, I actually preferred the rivalry non-romance relationship.

 

As a gay male, I don't even play gay characters! I understand how it can be compelling to experience a second gay life (dunno if that's how I should frame it), but honestly, I'm just fine being a hot elven chick sleeping with Alistair, or anything that resembles him. If I want to have some "gay action", I could easily get it in real life ;)

 

Since we're "pretending" to be warriors, rogues, and mages while "pretending" to kill hundreds of mooks, I don't see the issue with "pretending" to get busy with people as well. It's all pretend. Let's not start with the "real life" talk please.

 

I'm pretty sure all of us have or will be sexual active IRL and don't need a video game to "get our game on". BioWare is relatively unique among RPGs in that it allows deep companion relationships to evolve into something more. What's the problem with that? It's not "second gay life". It's roleplaying a "gay character".

 

Also, just because I'm gay doesn't mean I only do gay relationships. It's nice to have the option. 



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Ho-mance??! :P Oh lord.

Yeah...no.  I'll pass on that term, thanks.   I use the term "sisters" to talk about that kind of strong bond between women.  I think I'll stick to that.  :P


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Ho-mance??! :P Oh lord.

It rhymes lol
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http://www.pcgamer.c...e-open-world/2/

 

Mark Darrah: Friendship I think is … I think we’ve become trapped by that, the word romance. I think friendship is … I actually regret that in Dragon Age 2 we didn’t have essentially that kind of bromance with Varric. He’s not a romance, but he’s, you can hang out with him and be your bud and have that same kind of depth. Some of our, what we would traditionally call romances in Dragon Age: Inquisition are falling more into that camp where they’re not … they’re more in that friendship area.

If this means what I hope it means. That you can pursue a deep meaningful extra special relationship with characters without it becoming a romantic entanglement, then sign me up.  I always though that it would have been nice, if Shepard could have had someone like Mordin or Samara come up to their room before the big show down, just to engage in some friendly banter/comfort before going on a big suicide mission. 



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It rhymes lol
Edit: not advocating use, just passing along the info.

I don't think anyone intends to shoot the messenger at this point.  I could tell by the way you used it that you didn't mean any harm.  It was educating to see that is a term some folks use.

 

On topic: I think I'm going to enjoy deeper friendships between my companions.  That was one of the biggest saving graces in DA2 for me.  What I'd love to see is an in-game version of the Tavern scene from the art work.  Having those moments where the companions all interact along with the PC would be great.  That was one of my letdowns in DA2 as far as companions go: I'd hear about these games of Diamondback and such, but I was never along to see them.  That's something I hope changes in Inquisition.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed!


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I'm definitely hoping for both.  Romance and friendships have equal importance to me, and I don't see why one should come at the expense of the other.  The friendships with Varric and Joker are some of my favorite parts of Bioware games. 


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I'm not against the friendship storylines, as long as they don't do away with the romance lines as well.  Star Ocean has a long history of including both, especially in 2nd Story where you can play as Claude or Rena and each have Romance or Friendmance endings.  (All divided along gender lines still, but, hey, choosing to play as the guy or the girl was progress for the time.)



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I don't think anyone intends to shoot the messenger at this point. I could tell by the way you used it that you didn't mean any harm. It was educating to see that is a term some folks use.

On topic: I think I'm going to enjoy deeper friendships between my companions. That was one of the biggest saving graces in DA2 for me. What I'd love to see is an in-game version of the Tavern scene from the art work. Having those moments where the companions all interact along with the PC would be great. That was one of my letdowns in DA2 as far as companions go: I'd hear about these games of Diamondback and such, but I was never along to see them. That's something I hope changes in Inquisition. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

I'm not sure if it would be cost-effective of even possible to implement, but something like the citadel dlc...would just be icing on the cake. I mean, seriously, news like that would be enough to make me squee. The squee heard around the world lol.
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