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[TheJediSaint]

Leliana's emotional state was enough to sell me on how bad her torture was.  I don't need to see every grisly detail.

[Maria Caliban]

I can't imagine any torture by magic in Dragon Age that wouldn't also damage one's appearance. There's no psionics where you just cause stabbing pains in their brain but leave their body intact.

Leliana's emotional state was enough to sell me on how bad her torture was. I don't need to see every grisly detail.

She's wearing lip gloss.

Not having her wear make up, not having her in full armor, and giving her a few bruises is not 'grisly details.'

[Basement Cat]

I can't imagine any torture by magic in Dragon Age that wouldn't also damage one's appearance. There's no psionics where you just cause stabbing pains in their brain but leave their body intact.

What about that blood boiling spell? The marks would be inside, not outside...

[Ryzaki]

I can't imagine any torture by magic in Dragon Age that wouldn't also damage one's appearance. There's no psionics where you just cause stabbing pains in their brain but leave their body intact.

 

Couldn't bloodmagic mess with her blood (and I assume the vessels and organs and such?).

 

Or something like Fenris lyrium ghost ability where he messed around with the guys insides and didn't leave an outwardly mark.

[Chari]

No one is asking to see urine, feces, rape, horrific mutilation, or other content that might be graphic or disturbing.

People are requesting she not be in full armor and her face/body show some sign of injury.

They do and it is horrifying they think it is necessary to see someone suffering so they can enjoy a game
Then, there're people who sold Fenris to his former master and killed both Mordin and Wrex
Some people are just terrible like that

[Basement Cat]

They do and it is horrifying they think it is necessary to see someone suffering so they can enjoy a game
Then, there're people who sold Fenris to his former master and killed both Mordin and Wrex
Some people are just terrible like that

Don't play the Prototype series...

[Milan92]

Man I love popsicles.

[Ryzaki]

They do and it is horrifying they think it is necessary to see someone suffering so they can enjoy a game
Then, there're people who sold Fenris to his former master and killed both Mordin and Wrex
Some people are just terrible like that

 

It's not necessary for enjoyment. It just makes the moment seem like it actually happened with the visuals matching the dialogue.

[Maria Caliban]

I assume boiling someone's blood or messing with their internal organs would cause someone to look different. If nothing else, you'd have a lot of broken capillaries, which would give you blotches/bruises.

[Chari]

I can't imagine any torture by magic in Dragon Age that wouldn't also damage one's appearance. There's no psionics where you just cause stabbing pains in their brain but leave their body intact.


She's wearing lip gloss.

Not having her wear make up, not having her in full armor, and giving her a few bruises is not 'grisly details.'

It's her basic appearance
She will look like that even if she'll personally behead a dragoness and swim in her blood. It is not flawless, she travels in this costume. It is just standard

Plus her emotional state was more than enough convincing

[Chari]

Don't play the Prototype series...

I wont

[Chari]

It's not necessary for enjoyment. It just makes the moment seem like it actually happened with the visuals matching the dialogue.

It did happen and it was bad enough the torture actually happened

[Milan92]

They do and it is horrifying they think it is necessary to see someone suffering so they can enjoy a game
Then, there're people who sold Fenris to his former master and killed both Mordin and Wrex
Some people are just terrible like that

 

You do know that choices like killing Mordin and Wrex are most of the time for RP reasons? Like maybe someone didn't want to cure the krogan because of pragmatic reasons.

 

That doesn't automatically mean they did it for the lulz.

[Jaison1986]

Don't play the Prototype series...

 

Yeah, it's for the grown ups. 

[AresKeith]

It did happen and it was bad enough the torture actually happened

 

They're saying it makes it more believable than her appearing fully clothed 

[Chari]

You do know that choices like killing Mordin and Wrex are most of the time for RP reasons? Like maybe someone didn't want to cure the krogan because of pragmatic reasons.

That doesn't automatically mean they did it for the lulz.

If they didnt feel like monsters after betraying and killing loyal friends as well as dooming an entire race I have nothing good to say about these people

[Basement Cat]

Alright! Let's drop the subject of torture/realism/horrible people right here. The argument is going in circles, no one is going to change their mind about it and there is nothing we can do about the game content. Let's quit this before feelings get hurt. Please.

[Chari]

Yeah, it's for the grown ups.

Based on the warning... for sick sadistic grown ups
Worst type of grown ups ever

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Alright! Let's drop the subject of torture/realism/horrible people right here. The argument is going in circles, no one is going to change their mind about it and there is nothing we can do about the game content. Let's quit this before feelings get hurt. Please.

 

I liked ice cream more.

[Maria Caliban]

They do and it is horrifying they think it is necessary to see someone suffering so they can enjoy a game
Then, there're people who sold Fenris to his former master and killed both Mordin and Wrex
Some people are just terrible like that

I can't say I've taken a single evil option in a Dragon Age or Mass Effect game*, but I don't think people who do so are terrible in any way.

There may be some posters who desire Leliana's torture to be graphic or unsavory because they find the spectacle enjoyable. If developers include that sort of content, I agree they need to handle it in a thoughtful way that doesn't simply appeal to some people's baser natures.

Video games are visual though. If someone has been hurt, it's good to show them as being hurt. Having them look relatively unharmed undermines the scene.

* Unless you count the Dark Ritual, and I don't.

[Ryzaki]

I assume boiling someone's blood or messing with their internal organs would cause someone to look different. If nothing else, you'd have a lot of broken capillaries, which would give you blotches/bruises.

 

True but the bruises could easily be under her armor.

 

I have doubts they tortured her physically and then put armor on her. That makes no sense.

 

 

It did happen and it was bad enough the torture actually happened

 

Yes it did but the visuals don't match the dialogue and for some people that's a disconnect.

[Chari]

They're saying it makes it more believable than her appearing fully clothed

If they care more about realism than Lelianna getting tortured then I have nothing good to say about them

[Milan92]

If they didnt feel like monsters after betraying and killing loyal friends as well as dooming an entire race I have nothing good to say about these people

 

Well, pragmatism isn't most of the time something you do out of the kindness of your heart but more for the greater good anyway.

[Lenimph]

Yeah, it's for the grown ups. 

Oh hey look I found one of those legendary "mature" pokemanz. 

 

I gotz to catch it