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[Master Warder Z_]

Show us the way little taco girl!

 

._. Sociopathic Bardic Chantry Sister? 

[cjones91]

._. Sociopathic Bardic Chantry Sister? 

Sure why not.

[CrimsonN7]

She was meant to be a sociopathic Bard!

 

Not a Chantry Sister!

 

Leliana doesn't like having to choose.

 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I didn't know you could ever make Leliana a sociopath. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Leliana doesn't like having to choose.

 

That's why you force it on her by killing her mentor when she is perfectly fine letting her walk away!

[CrimsonN7]

That's why you force it on her by killing her mentor when she is perfectly fine letting her walk away!

 

What can I say my Warden likes to get stabby, butterfingers or bloody fingers more like.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I didn't know you could ever make Leliana a sociopath. 

I never got the sociopath Leliana either. 

[CrimsonN7]

I never got the sociopath Leliana either. 

 

Religious zealot sociopath Leliana, yeah I heard of this woman on the boards here. Never meet her in game though. I think my disk must be faulty too.

[Riven326]

Where was it confirmed she wasn't a romance option?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Where was it confirmed she wasn't a romance option?

Several places. The Raptr Q&A was the most recent I believe. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Where was it confirmed she wasn't a romance option?

 

It was stated by multiple devs, multiple times, every time somebody asked about it. 

[Basement Cat]

It was stated by multiple devs, multiple times, every time somebody asked about it. 

It would be the supreme irony if she did wind up as a romance.

 

Bioware employee 1: What? I thought Leliana wasn't gonna be a romance option this time.

 

BWE 2: Change of plans. The fans won't shut the f*** up about it.

 

But yeah, no Leli loving this time around.

[Master Warder Z_]

Religious zealot sociopath Leliana, yeah I heard of this woman on the boards here. Never meet her in game though. I think my disk must be faulty too.

 

In all seriousness, she does exhibit behaviors that would be of that realm by modern internal medical diagnosis, but then again...so does half of Thedas, so it isn't much of a biggie to me.

 

Thedas is a world where you literally need to kill or die on a fairly regular basis, a world such as that promotes mentalities that would be considered questionable by the modern world.

[CrimsonN7]

It would be the supreme irony if she did wind up as a romance.

 

Bioware employee 1: What? I thought Leliana wasn't gonna be a romance option this time.

 

BWE 2: Change of plans. The fans won't shut the f*** up about it.

 

 

Lulz

 

I think Gaider is fearful of being burned at the stake by all us hardcore DAO waifu/husbando fans to switch it up now!

[Maria Caliban]

In all seriousness, she does exhibit behaviors that would be of that realm by modern internal medical diagnosis, but then again...so does half of Thedas, so it isn't much of a biggie to me.

Given that sociopathy doesn't exist in 'modern internal medical diagnosis,' that's doubtful. Nor is she anti-social or dissocial. She shows empathy, she doesn't break social norms, she is capable of long-term relationships where she values the other person, and she shows no sign of lack of control when it comes to aggression or violent impulses.

[Star fury]

In all seriousness, she does exhibit behaviors that would be of that realm by modern internal medical diagnosis, but then again...so does half of Thedas, so it isn't much of a biggie to me.

 

Thedas is a world where you literally need to kill or die on a fairly regular basis, a world such as that promotes mentalities that would be considered questionable by the modern world.

What a load of bullshit.

[Lulupab]

Lulupab: PC.
 
cjones91: Around 75.

Lol I fell asleep.

Anyway its a bug on PC but you can easily fix it with console commands, provided you know how to use them. Just look it up, its simple enough.

[MissDragon]

In all seriousness, she does exhibit behaviors that would be of that realm by modern internal medical diagnosis, but then again...so does half of Thedas, so it isn't much of a biggie to me.

 

Thedas is a world where you literally need to kill or die on a fairly regular basis, a world such as that promotes mentalities that would be considered questionable by the modern world.

 

Well, aren't all games the same? You need to kill or die...violence is everywhere, not just in games either. 

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Lulz

 

I think Gaider is fearful of being burned at the stake by all us hardcore DAO waifu/husbando fans to switch it up now!

I dont get it. From a roleplaying perspective one wouldnt care about the warden if you are now playing the inquisitor right? I mean... if you play PnP D&D why would you care about some long gone character of yours?

Even if you are overly-attatched to previous characters, its called moving on. If the small percentage of players being genuinely mad at Leliana romance because "I romanced her with my warden omfg - she is unfaithful!" then they are being completely unrealistic imo, why?, think of it in real life.

 

If you are in love with a woman, or you are a woman in love with a man - and they disappear for 10 years - you cant - in any way - expect them to wait for you or you to wait for them. 

So nomatter how you put it - Leliana not being a romance option makes no sense. The only realistic or lore-friendly way she wouldnt be romancable would be because she took a chastity wow with the chantry or simply dont want it because shes a workoholic (job comes first).

[Sifr]

Given that sociopathy doesn't exist in 'modern internal medical diagnosis,' that's doubtful. Nor is she anti-social or dissocial. She shows empathy, she doesn't break social norms, she is capable of long-term relationships where she values the other person, and she shows no sign of lack of control when it comes to aggression or violent impulses.

 

As a few of us has speculate before in this thread, she has more signs of having Dependent Personality Disorder than anything else. The diagnosis critia for DPD defines her behaviour and relationships with others almost perfectly.

 

So nomatter how you put it - Leliana not being a romance option makes no sense. The only realistic or lore-friendly way she wouldnt be romancable would be because she took a chastity wow with the chantry or simply dont want it because shes a workoholic (job comes first).

 

Even if it's been 10 years and the Warden's been missing for a few years, it's probably for the best that they don't make her romanceable, given the notorious problems with the Zevran romance import in DA2 where he'd "cheat" on the Warden, an especially devastating blow if it was one that performed the Ultimate Sacrifice ending.

 

Still, it's a little unfair to still make her unromanceable for those of us who didn't in Origins and might want to in Inquisition. Why can't our Inquisitor decide to romance her, simply because the Warden did not? Doesn't she deserve some happiness?

[Wulfram]

I don't think it's a bad thing for the game to have an attractive woman who doesn't want to sleep with the protagonist.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

The Warden hasn't been missing for 10 years. 

 

If you want to romance Leliana, go play DA:O. Seriously. It was rather enjoyable. 

[BloodKaiden]

Doesn't she deserve some happiness?

No. But who needs love when you can pull the miracle of raising from the dead. Xd

[Sifr]

I don't think it's a bad thing for the game to have an attractive woman who doesn't want to sleep with the protagonist.

 

Aye, but the option should be there if you wanted to pursue her, even if it doesn't end up going anywhere like Samara in ME2 or Aveline in DA2, where the former rebuffs you and the latter doesn't get you're into her at all?

 

True, the Warden's appearance in Denerim in 9:37 suggests that they still were around then, even if they went with Morrigan at the end of Witch Hunt which was meant to be in 9:32. I suspect that the only way to retcon this is that Witch Hunt actually took place in 9:37 and the Warden spent over 5 years as Warden-Commander, before leaving mysteriously (possibly with Morrigan) shortly after Vigil's Keep was repaired (if you saved Amaranthine).

[Samahl]

Aye, but the option should be there if you wanted to pursue her, even if it doesn't end up going anywhere like Samara in ME2 or Aveline in DA2, where the former rebuffs you and the latter doesn't get you're into her at all?

 

What makes you think you won't be able to flirt with her?