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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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Yes but romance would be completely different than in dao so saying that you can go can come back and romance her in dao is poor argument because it isn't the same as romancing her in dai.

 

It's not an argument, at all. It's an alternative. The fact is she can't be romanced in DA:I - there's no argument to be made, it simply is what it is. If you want to romance her, she is available by playing DA:O, but not by playing DA:I.



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Yes but romance would be completely different than in dao so saying that you can go can come back and romance her in dao is poor argument because it isn't the same as romancing her in dai.


It's still the same character. It'd still be retreading old ground when something new could have been there.

So yes, go back and play DAO. There was already a rather nice romance arc.
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It's not an argument, at all. It's an alternative. The fact is she can't be romanced in DA:I - there's no argument to be made, it simply is what it is. If you want to romance her, she is available by playing DA:O, but not by playing DA:I.

As i said it isn't the same and don't rly fit as dao leliana isn't same as dai leliana peoples may simple don't like or don't be intrested in dao leliana when they may be intrested in dai leliana pretty much as anders who was pretty moch one of most liked characters in daa and in da 2 most hated in da setting.

 

 

It's still the same character. It'd still be retreading old ground when something new could have been there.

So yes, go back and play DAO. There was already a rather nice romance arc.

Hardly complete change behavior i would say almost she is opposite of what she was in dao sure she may save some traits like "i love shoes" but pretty much character is after major changes.It would be like saying that romacing anders in da 2 would be same as in daa but it wouldn't as reaction to his character were pretty much opposite. So in fact peoples that disliked leliana in dao may found to like her in dai.



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I don't buy that. We've seen her post-torture so far, and nothing else. Whatever changes there are, if there was a romance arc, it'd most likely involve bringing those barriers down - and at that point we would very likely reach old ground and start being too similar to before.

But getting testy about it is pointless. It isn't happening.
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I don't buy that. We've seen her post-torture so far, and nothing else. Whatever changes there are, if there was a romance arc, it'd most likely involve bringing those barriers down - and at that point we would very likely reach old ground and start being too similar to before.

But getting testy about it is pointless. It isn't happening.

Well we know she was cheerful , quite idealistic , merciful and religious that were pretty much her major traits in dao there were peoples that simple disliked her for one or more of those traits.Now we know she is grumpy from her character prfofile and well just look at screenshots , we know now she is quite ruthless as well more cynical i would say that only religious part sticks from those so quite different experience in romacing character than in dao i will doubt now she will have problems with me taking not nice decisions.    

 

I don't have any problems with her not being Li in dai i just say that we could romance her in dao shouldn't be reason why we can't romance her in dai and that as well romance would be different simple because of major changes in her character since then same as was with anders. 



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I don't have any problems with her not being Li in dai i just say that we could romance her in dao shouldn't be reason why we can't romance her in dai and that as well romance would be different simple because of major changes in her character since then same as was with anders. 

It's not "the reason". 

 

The only reason she can't be romanced in DA:I is because she isn't interested and it is just as simple as that. No one needs to give an excuse for not being romantically available.  None of the DA:O LI's will or ever will be interested in the inquisitor and there need be no excuse for it or reason for it, because real people are actually like that and characters should reflect that as well. 


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It's not "the reason". 

 

The only reason she can't be romanced in DA:I is because she isn't interested and it is just as simple as that. No one needs to give an excuse for not being romantically available. 

Devs already said they won't allow us romance previous Li because of that and well because they didn't want rage from peoples that romanced them in the previous games.So not interested is in game justification not why romance isn't available.  



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Devs already said they won't allow us romance previous Li because of that and well because they didn't want rage from peoples that romanced them in the previous games.

That isn't what they said. They said they would rather explore new characters. 

 

We're lucky enough that they even care enough to import of previous LI choices and have it actually be mentioned and reflected upon in game. That in itself is complicated enough.  Leliana is the only DA LI that is part of the inquisition and probably the only DA LI we will regularly see enough to warrant the possibility of a full blown romance and why should they do that again when there are other aspects of her character to explore and there's a large chance she's already committed to the Warden anyway (as she was the most popular DA:O romance according to input data if I remember correctly)

 

The only way I really see this being conflicting is in the case of Isabela and Zevran.  Zevran isn't going to show up but Isabela might, and/or not being able to propose a fling to her and seeing her say no if she wasn't romanced is going to be a bit weird... 



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I imagine the devs wouldn't be interested in exploring how to make a second romance of a previous companion feel new and fresh again aswell, when they have far more options in what they can and want to do with a clean slate on new companions. 


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That isn't what they said. They said they would rather explore new characters. 

From what i remember DG said in 1 romance thread on that you won't be able romance previous li because they don't want upset peoples also  response on tweeter was that leliana could be in active romance so they don't want mess with that or something smiliar like that.

 

Also what you have said is pretty much what I said about reason in other words.



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From what i remember DG said in 1 romance thread on that you won't be able romance previous li because they don't want upset peoples also  response on tweeter was that leliana could be in active romance so they don't want mess with that or something smiliar like that.

 

Also what you have said is pretty much what I said about reason in other words.

He might have said that in one thread but they have many responses all over the place and there is not just "one" reason, obviously not pissing people off is a reason but it's not really fun to revisit old grounds. 



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I see you edited so first i will respond first on that.

 

We're lucky enough that they even care enough to import of previous LI choices and have it actually be mentioned and reflected upon in game. That in itself is complicated enough.  Leliana is the only DA LI that is part of the inquisition and probably the only DA LI we will regularly see enough to warrant the possibility of a full blown romance and why should they do that again when there are other aspects of her character to explore and there's a large chance she's already committed to the Warden anyway (as she was the most popular DA:O romance according to input data if I remember correctly)

 

The only way I really see this being conflicting is in the case of Isabela and Zevran.  Zevran isn't going to show up but Isabela might, and/or not being able to propose a fling to her and seeing her say no if she wasn't romanced is going to be a bit weird... 

Well i wouldn't call that lucky pretty much same as with ME romances got treatment as something major bioware practically have to put reference to romance from previous li even if it is done just stupid like in leliana cameo that was in da 2 but i will mention that later.

 

She isn't same person as she was in dao and when you romanced her last time , as i said she is after major changes that pretty much removed her many traits from dao.It is obvious that simple now even having her in your team will be different experience not only because she is your advisor because her character has changed so romancing her would be different than in dao. Of course im not saying that it is reason that she should be Li in dai im just saying that saying that she shouldn't be li in dai because she was already in dao isn't very good reason.

 

Now to go to part about where reason is "my pc romanced her previously s/he shouldn't be li in next game" is bad practice as well when devs start act characters out of character just to not ****** peoples because they thought that hedonist that have very lax view on relationship and sex wouldn't go to bed with another person... in fact i was glad they did that with romanced zevran until it turned out to be just bug.If they will turn isabela into chaste nun just because she romanced hawke i will be little disappointed with bioware.

     

 

He might have said that in one thread but they have many responses all over the place and there is not just "one" reason, obviously not pissing people off is a reason but it's not really fun to revisit old grounds. 

Well you are right about reasons but i was more talking about that 1 specific and as i said it wouldn't be rly old grounds because she isn't same person as she was then.



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We barely know anything about her at this point. -.-

#6539
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We barely know anything about her at this point. -.-

About who leliana or isabela?

If about leliana hardly pretty much character profiles are to explain basic things about characters and their role also we had some insight in 2 books of course if they will be consistent with her character in dai ,then we have demo and some light in other videos. 



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Wait, I'm confused: Why are you arguing for Leliana to be romanced, Kommandor? You hate Leliana. 



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Wait, I'm confused: Why are you arguing for Leliana to be romanced, Kommandor? You hate Leliana. 

Well i explained that already rly don't care if she will be Li or not i simple argue that romance would be simple different experience due major changes in character so peoples that hated ther in dao may like her in dai so they would like to romance her in dai not in dao.

 

About hate not rly only character i hate is talis then i have characters i dislike.Simple that i point negative traits or speak negatively about something doesn't mean i hate it.   



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I hate trying to decipher posts.


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You can argue all day and night about the "what's" and the "if's", but it won't change the fact that she isn't available.


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Sad isn't it...i'm  not available Leliana muses...

 

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The fact that Leliana isn't available is due to the (also) fact that my Warden ruined her in DAO, the epic love she had/felt/experimented with my Warden was epic so no, she will die single :lol: :P

 

Now I am going away before someone trows a tomato at me :ph34r: :ph34r:



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So,middle that Russian leak spoil anything about lelliana? if so, is this thread 'safe' enough?

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So,middle that Russian leak spoil anything about lelliana? if so, is this thread 'safe' enough?

Nope unless you consider picture as spoiler.But if there was it wouldn't be safe because someone would post about that but mods would remove that some time after.  



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Ok I'll stay away then.

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I love Leliana but she's my Warden's girl and his girl only. It be futile for Bioware to make her an LI.


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If the warden has remained alive, I would love to have some news about the warden from her especially if she was romanced by him (or her).


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