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[Alan Rickman]

The same happened with Garrus and Tali in Mass Effect trilogy. The fact that they can be a happy couple ruined my enjoyment of romancing either of them, and they were my favorite LIs in the trilogy. I just get a bad feeling when I try after learning about those couplings. 

 

I'm more in the camp of being happy if a character I like gets to be something other than forever alone in playthroughs where I don't pursue them myself. Watching an unromanced Liara's unrequited love for Shepard still gets me a bit in the feels.

[Lenimph]

 

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Don't be so stubborn Josie! Yesum.

Omg those facial animations. I was so worried that with the transition to frostbite that we might loose those dynamic facial expressions we got in DA2 but I'm super happy to see that is not the case.

[TheJediSaint]

Who smiles at their friends? You can't do that. 

Weirdos, that's who.

[Lenimph]

That smile she gives Josephine makes me nervous. 

*clears throat* 

 

She wants to: 

• Praise her Maker
• Grope her grinder
• Dampen her Divine
• Grey her Warden
• Pudding her peach
• Tickle her nug

[CrimsonN7]

It's almost like they're old friends.

 

 

Dat smirk, chest tightens.

[GenericEnemy]

On the condition it isn't in a save where the Warden romanced her, I don't really care what Leliana and Josephine get up to. I doubt it will happen anyway.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I see my worry is entertainment to some. 

[Eyeshield21]

The last one is even sadder, if u have a U.S warden.

Yup, which is why I ALWAYS make sure my Warden survives. Can't bear to see her devastated if I/My Warden dies(plus, he's an Amell, we don't die that easily, lol)

Can't wait to see what she says about the Warden in Inquisition. There's more than just references in this one, I hear? 

[themikefest]

I'm curious to see if Leliana will be seen in the game without the hood on

[Achaewa]

Sorry If I'm diverting the ongoing topic, but I read a funny theory that goes like this:

 

Leliana's vision in Origins is not about the Warden but actually about the Inquisitor.

 

In her vision, she mentions a colossal darkness consuming the world and a single rose growing from a dead bush. She assumes this foretells her of the coming Blight and the Warden who survived the battle at Ostagar. But Alistair too survives and Riordan (technically), which would mean that there should atleast be two roses blooming and not one.

 

But what if she misinterpreted it all. There is only one survivor from the Breach, which itself is slowly consuming the world. In other words - the single rose blooming symbolizes the Inquisitor and the all consuming darkness is not the Blight but the Breach. A far greater threat than darkspawn in my opinion.

 

I know, I know. They couldn't possibly have thought this far ahead when they made DA:O and it's probably not true, but it's a funny thought. Don't you think so?

[JustValiant]

 

 

The same happened with Garrus and Tali in Mass Effect trilogy. The fact that they can be a happy couple ruined my enjoyment of romancing either of them, and they were my favorite LIs in the trilogy. I just get a bad feeling when I try after learning about those couplings. 

 

I can understand how you feel -you have a very altruistic and selfless point of view. It reminds me of school, when I helped the girl I had a crush on to reunite with her ex-boyfriend. My friends called me crazy, I just wanted her to be happy.

 

Who smiles at their friends? You can't do that. 

 

I do it a lot of times...

 

... an I think that this intimacy between the two originates from an old friendship. I guess that maybe they had a short affair at the beginning of their friendship but valued being friends over being lovers.

[MissDragon]

I wonder how many friends I will make in DAI. Without Leliana I have very few options open. Sighs....

[Gamyu]

Sorry If I'm diverting the ongoing topic, but I read a funny theory that goes like this:
 
Leliana's vision in Origins is not about the Warden but actually about the Inquisitor.
 
In her vision, she mentions a colossal darkness consuming the world and a single rose growing from a dead bush. She assumes this foretells her of the coming Blight and the Warden who survived the battle at Ostagar. But Alistair too survives and Riordan (technically), which would mean that there should atleast be two roses blooming and not one.
 
But what if she misinterpreted it all. There is only one survivor from the Breach, which itself is slowly consuming the world. In other words - the single rose blooming symbolizes the Inquisitor and the all consuming darkness is not the Blight but the Breach. A far greater threat than darkspawn in my opinion.
 
I know, I know. They couldn't possibly have thought this far ahead when they made DA:O and it's probably not true, but it's a funny thought. Don't you think so?

Probably just a coincidence. Riordan does not count since he sneaked into Ferelden/was not at Ostagar. I'm not sure if Darkspawn Chronicle is canon, but it shows that w/o the Warden, Ferelden is doomed. If the Darkspawn Chronicle isn't canon, I still wouldn't trust Alistair to lead the party to lunch; he might forget his pant. So, the Warden is the single rose.

And when it comes to colossal darkness, I think the Blight will beat the Breach, just look at the First Blight. The Fifth Blight only did so little damage because the Warden stopped it before it can catches steam. With what we know of DA:I and Grey Wardens, I say Thedas will not be so lucky if the Sixth Blight starts after the end of DA:I.

[Wolfen09]

Sorry If I'm diverting the ongoing topic, but I read a funny theory that goes like this:

 

Leliana's vision in Origins is not about the Warden but actually about the Inquisitor.

 

In her vision, she mentions a colossal darkness consuming the world and a single rose growing from a dead bush. She assumes this foretells her of the coming Blight and the Warden who survived the battle at Ostagar. But Alistair too survives and Riordan (technically), which would mean that there should atleast be two roses blooming and not one.

 

But what if she misinterpreted it all. There is only one survivor from the Breach, which itself is slowly consuming the world. In other words - the single rose blooming symbolizes the Inquisitor and the all consuming darkness is not the Blight but the Breach. A far greater threat than darkspawn in my opinion.

 

I know, I know. They couldn't possibly have thought this far ahead when they made DA:O and it's probably not true, but it's a funny thought. Don't you think so?

 

well, the lone rose thing does not necessarily pertain to the number of people who survived.... it might be the one who rose above the rest, etc.  and technically could be interpreted as the warden, hawke, or the inquisitor.... so im thinkin the maker just said "here ya go, not gonna tell ya who it pertains to, but meh good enough"  (and before you go sayin that there wasnt any "darkness" in da2, da2 the whole game was the darkness)

[Basement Cat]

well, the lone rose thing does not necessarily pertain to the number of people who survived.... it might be the one who rose above the rest, etc.  and technically could be interpreted as the warden, hawke, or the inquisitor.... so im thinkin the maker just said "here ya go, not gonna tell ya who it pertains to, but meh good enough"  (and before you go sayin that there wasnt any "darkness" in da2, da2 the whole game was the darkness)

Who's to say the rose represents a single individual? Each petal could stand for a hero and his/her followers.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I can understand how you feel -you have a very altruistic and selfless point of view. It reminds me of school, when I helped the girl I had a crush on to reunite with her ex-boyfriend. My friends called me crazy, I just wanted her to be happy.

 

 

I do it a lot of times...

 

... an I think that this intimacy between the two originates from an old friendship. I guess that maybe they had a short affair at the beginning of their friendship but valued being friends over being lovers.

Yay, someone who thinks positively of what I do. I needed that. Thanks

 

After I got offline last night, I did some calculations: 

Dragon Age: Inquisition has to happen at least in 9:42, since Last Flight happens from 9:41-9:42 with no mention of the Breach. 

Josephine's writer Sylvia has said that Josephine's age range is 27-29, so she was born in 9:13-9:15. 

Dragon Age: Origins happened 12 years ago, so Josephine was 15-17 during that game. 

Leliana was hiding in Lothering for a couple years before that, so when she ran away Josephine was 13-15 years old. 

Bioware's reaction to those asking for a Cole romance was has the mentality of a child in that respect so wouldn't be appropriate

 

So we can conclude that they due to Bioware not desiring to have underaged people involved in that kind of relationship, that Josephine and Leliana were not lovers in the past. Whether they develop those feelings in Inquiition is still unknown. 

[thats1evildude]

Mmmm, I'm digging Leliana's quarian-esque outfit. It brings back fond memories of that quarian butt thread.

[Zjarcal]

Mmmm, I'm digging Leliana's quarian-esque outfit. It brings back fond memories of that quarian butt thread.

 
Can Leliana shake it like dis in Inquisition, pretty plox
 

[Lenimph]

Yay, someone who thinks positively of what I do. I needed that. Thanks

 

After I got offline last night, I did some calculations: 

Dragon Age: Inquisition has to happen at least in 9:42, since Last Flight happens from 9:41-9:42 with no mention of the Breach. 

Josephine's writer Sylvia has said that Josephine's age range is 27-29, so she was born in 9:13-9:15. 

Dragon Age: Origins happened 12 years ago, so Josephine was 15-17 during that game. 

Leliana was hiding in Lothering for a couple years before that, so when she ran away Josephine was 13-15 years old. 

Bioware's reaction to those asking for a Cole romance was has the mentality of a child in that respect so wouldn't be appropriate

 

So we can conclude that they due to Bioware not desiring to have underaged people involved in that kind of relationship, that Josephine and Leliana were not lovers in the past. Whether they develop those feelings in Inquiition is still unknown. 

I think you should take into mind how young Leliana might have been. ( Also Leliana herself was hinted at to be pretty young when she met Marjolaine who was significantly older) Just sayin.  Cole has the mind of someone who has not reached pubescent years. PLus 15-17 around the age of consent for most of the world....

 

Also I hope Leliana hooks up with someone if she's not romanced, but I really don't want to see her forever alone just because the Warden didn't romance her and Josephine just seems like the most obvious fit. 

[Alya_]

I suddenly had a feeling that Leliana will end up dead at the end of the main quest, i have no idea where's this coming from but god i hope i'm wrong 

[thats1evildude]

The life expectancy of returning characters is generally not great.

Spoiler

For Dragon Age examples, see: Wynne, Maric, Loghain.

EDIT: Goddamnit, spoiler tags, you have failed me for the last time.

[Lenimph]

Sorry If I'm diverting the ongoing topic, but I read a funny theory that goes like this:

 

Leliana's vision in Origins is not about the Warden but actually about the Inquisitor.

 

In her vision, she mentions a colossal darkness consuming the world and a single rose growing from a dead bush. She assumes this foretells her of the coming Blight and the Warden who survived the battle at Ostagar. But Alistair too survives and Riordan (technically), which would mean that there should atleast be two roses blooming and not one.

 

But what if she misinterpreted it all. There is only one survivor from the Breach, which itself is slowly consuming the world. In other words - the single rose blooming symbolizes the Inquisitor and the all consuming darkness is not the Blight but the Breach. A far greater threat than darkspawn in my opinion.

 

I know, I know. They couldn't possibly have thought this far ahead when they made DA:O and it's probably not true, but it's a funny thought. Don't you think so?

The rose was not part of her vision. The rose is what she saw after she woke up from her dream/vision that morning in the chantry garden that made her feel as if something was reaching out to her. If you flirt with Alistair it will eventually be revealed that he picked this rose and will give it to the warden as a token of his feelings. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think you should take into mind how young Leliana might have been. ( Also Leliana herself was hinted at to be pretty young when she met Marjolaine who was significantly older) Just sayin.  Cole has the mind of someone who has not reached pubescent years. PLus 15-17 around the age of consent for most of the world....

 

Also I hope Leliana hooks up with someone if she's not romanced, but I really don't want to see her forever alone just because the Warden didn't romance her and Josephine just seems like the most obvious fit. 

Leliana was in her mid twenties during Origins if I recall correctly. 

13-15 is how old Josephine was when Leliana ran away to Lothering. 13-15 is not the age of consent for most of the world, and the parts of the world where it is is frowned upon by the rest of the world.