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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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#6851
Achaewa

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It looks like all the females have wide hips so they may be sharing a model. Leli's light chainmail apron gets in the way so you can't really see her hips but I've noticed at some angles in the recent streams you can kinda notice it. 

 

 

Well, i'm not complaining. :whistle:

 

But you're right, it does look like she has wider hips than before. Probably has to do with the new female models. Though it could just be the posture.



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Well, i'm not complaining. :whistle:

 

But you're right, it does look like she has wider hips than before. Probably has to do with the new female models. Though it could just be the posture.

 

Those hips were made for for doing the scissors grip... :D


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Well, i'm not complaining. :whistle:



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Those hips were made for for doing the scissors grip... :D

Well, that would be thighs though. :P

But those usually come with the hips to match. ;)



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You could get lost in dem thighs. Literally, if you're a Venatori torturer.

...or the Warden. In a...different way. Ahem.
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Well, that would be thighs though. :P

But those usually come with the hips to match. ;)

 

I stand corrected.....hippy thighs :D



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A non-thigh related question here though.

 

On Tvtropes and other sources which I can't recall. They mention that sending Leliana to Redcliffe makes her turn bitter towards you, due to the ordeal she has to go through at the hands of evil mages.

 

Does this mean that you could theoretically send someone else instead. Like...Cullen?

 

They have been pretty vague about the choices in Inquisition.



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A non-thigh related question here though.

 

In all the gameplay footage released and in some articles/TvTropes they mention sending Leliana to Redcliffe, cuases her to turn bitter towards you, due to her ordeal at the hands of Magister's torturer.

 

So does this mean that you could theoretically send someone else instead. Like...Cullen?

 

They have been pretty vague about the choices in Inquisition.

 

That was the impression I got awhile back, when the vid first surfaced.

 

I wish I could send Leliana, just because she already knows Redcliffe.. but I'm not doing it if she hates me.


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I also remember them stating that you may not even come across that particular plot line in your game. Almost made it sound like it was the beginnings of a 'failed' playthrough.



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Yeah, there are a few ways you could take that.

One is just that it's possible to send in other advisors to do the same task. Maybe the other advisors are better at it, or maybe they meet with the same fate. But one doesn't have to send Leliana specifically into Redcliffe.

Another is that Leliana's infiltration may have been made easier by doing something else. For example, perhaps the Inquisitor chose not to distract Venatori attention with a military feint as Leliana tried to slip in. Without the distraction, she was caught and tortured; with it, she may have been able to avoid capture.

It's also possible that the entire situation may have been possible to avoid. Perhaps the Venatori can be attacked elsewhere, prior to their arrival at Redcliffe, where they are more vulnerable; instead, they got to the castle, seized control, and holed up inside, making it into a redoubt and necessitating a spy mission to facilitate its recapture and their defeat. Maybe the infiltration mission is unnecessary, or is an alternative to a better plan. Maybe the Venatori can be successfully negotiated with instead of attacked.
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I also remember them stating that you may not even come across that particular plot line in your game. Almost made it sound like it was the beginnings of a 'failed' playthrough.

 

Yep

http://www.ausgamers...es/read/3456301

 

So it’s really very complex, about how much control the players have over the types of content. And as I was saying before, that whole demo you saw, in the last half of it, when you’re fighting with Alexius and Felix, not all the players are going to see that, because going into that area is the result of a branching choice in the game. So you may have picked another area and you wouldn’t be going into that castle at all, you’d be going somewhere else entirely.

 
There’s whole sections of the game that are like that, that we branch off entirely. You can go to Red Cliff Village, and see the consequences of you picking the other decision. So we’ve made sure that any exclusive content, you can still see the flip side of the consequences as well. 

 

Also this from this interview at E3 Cameron Lee mentions how the mage/templar conflict choice leads to exclusive content and how "part of what you saw in the demo today is a little section of that choice"

~2min in https://www.youtube....h?v=5MSIW7JR5yA

 

 

Also keep in mind that they've also said that we are lacking context to what's going on and they said they had to cut a bunch of dialogues and content that was too spoilery



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Iron Bull and Sera definitely seemed to have died in that demo, too...or at least were left in a very bad state, which leads me to believe it's probably not a quest you get from a particularly good choice.



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Whether i will send there leliana it will depended on context of the mission but i won't hide i would like send her there just to face consequences her stupidity in asunder and i would love to have response "well you freed mages now you faced consequences of than on yourself , you can blame only yourself".She seems to have some problem with inq that send her there what pretty much is her job ,i hope there will be responses like "don't blame me you are one who failed your mission and got captured".

 

As well I hope they allow us punish severely for her disobedience that almost (almost is arguable here) killed our entire party and threatened the success of the mission.

 

I doubt that i will get that mission because im going with templars not mages but if any of advisors will act like her simple i should be allowed at least say goodbye to them same for companions or any subordinate in dai.

 



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Well, some of us don't read the Dragon Age books or comics, so they definitely won't color my perception of the characters.

 

Unless it is mentioned specifically in the game. My canon story is what I get from the games. Leliana romanced my Warden, became a Seeker/Left Hand of the Divine whatever and then joins the Inquisition. So no, unless it is mentioned specifically, any other media she appears in did not happen in my head.

 

Besides I never understood why Cullen has so many fangirls/boys. I'm not trying to start a flame war, but the TheKomandorShepard's post sure reads like the start of one.



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Well, some of us don't read the Dragon Age books or comics, so they definitely won't color my perception of the characters.

 

Unless it is mentioned specifically in the game. My canon story is what I get from the games. Leliana romanced my Warden, became a Seeker/Left Hand of the Divine whatever and then joins the Inquisition. So no, unless it is mentioned specifically, any other media she appears in did not happen in my head.

 

Besides I never understood why Cullen has so many fangirls/boys. I'm not trying to start a flame war, but the TheKomandorShepard's post sure reads like the start of one.

 

There really isn't much to blot out mentally, if you do read them. They don't go so far as to alter the game stories (unless you killed her in DAO.. in which case, who cares. Anyone who does that is lame  :P).

 

I think the one impression you might get --- but you would already get this playing the games anyway -- is that a Warden and Leliana romance is long distance. Reminds me of dating someone with a job requiring lots of traveling. To me, it's a bit depressing, but works well enough.



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I think the one impression you might get --- but you would already get this playing the games anyway -- is that a Warden and Leliana romance is long distance. Reminds me of dating someone with a job requiring lots of traveling. To me, it's a bit depressing, but works well enough.

 

I always got the impression that the Warden's disappearance caused Leliana to become a Seeker in order to - terrible pun - seek her/him out.

 

And yeah, it's quite a depressing end to the otherwise happy one you can get in DA:O. I just hope that if you did romance her, she will address it in the game.



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I always got the impression that the Warden's disappearance caused Leliana to become a Seeker in order to - terrible pun - seek her/him out.

 

And yeah, it's quite a depressing end to the otherwise happy one you can get in DA:O. I just hope that if you did romance her, she will address it in the game.

 

Yeah, the disappearance is more accurate. I just kind of meant the impression is, "at best", long distance. 



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Besides I never understood why Cullen has so many fangirls/boys. I'm not trying to start a flame war, but the TheKomandorShepard's post sure reads like the start of one.

To be honest that often ends that way but rly i don't care that peoples can't stand anything negative said about character.Hell peoples started yell at me here because i asked if there will be possibility to remove leliana and other adv from inq ,so im not afraid.

 

About romance for me it fits for warden who cared about leliana and who those who just used her im fine with it unless they will start mess with that in dai.



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I had a thought that chances are has been proposed many times before but here it is:
Much has been made of Leliana being, possibly, Andraste reborn. Now, here is the thing, Andraste had many biological children with Maferath. Supposedly, they all died in the civil wars that followed the fall of Tevinter in the South and while there have been who claim to be descendant, they have all been disavowed by the Chantry.

What if Leliana is the real deal? What if she is a genuine descendant of Andraste?



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I had a thought that chances are has been proposed many times before but here it is:
Much has been made of Leliana being, possibly, Andraste reborn. Now, here is the thing, Andraste had many biological children with Maferath. Supposedly, they all died in the civil wars that followed the fall of Tevinter in the South and while there have been who claim to be descendant, they have all been disavowed by the Chantry.

What if Leliana is the real deal? What if she is a genuine descendant of Andraste?

 

What if the Inquisitor is? I think there's just as much likelihood (if a human, at least... the rest of the Inquisitors get screwed lol).



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I had a thought that chances are has been proposed many times before but here it is:
Much has been made of Leliana being, possibly, Andraste reborn. Now, here is the thing, Andraste had many biological children with Maferath. Supposedly, they all died in the civil wars that followed the fall of Tevinter in the South and while there have been who claim to be descendant, they have all been disavowed by the Chantry.

What if Leliana is the real deal? What if she is a genuine descendant of Andraste?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they go that route.

 

I would be totally okay with that.



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I had a thought that chances are has been proposed many times before but here it is:
Much has been made of Leliana being, possibly, Andraste reborn. Now, here is the thing, Andraste had many biological children with Maferath. Supposedly, they all died in the civil wars that followed the fall of Tevinter in the South and while there have been who claim to be descendant, they have all been disavowed by the Chantry.

What if Leliana is the real deal? What if she is a genuine descendant of Andraste?

To be honest i would prefer da stay away from prophecies and other such things and have to some point realistic world plus magic pretty much why i dislike whole flemeth thing and sandal prophecy.



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I think the one impression you might get --- but you would already get this playing the games anyway -- is that a Warden and Leliana romance is long distance. Reminds me of dating someone with a job requiring lots of traveling. To me, it's a bit depressing, but works well enough.


Which is something I don't see working for too long in a mediaeval world with limited communication, and with one partner having...limited life, so I hope that gets wrapped up somehow. Though I doubt it will, with the Warden not even appearing...

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To be honest that often ends that way but rly i don't care that peoples can't stand anything negative said about character.Hell peoples started yell at me here because i asked if there will be possibility to remove leliana and other adv from inq ,so im not afraid.

 

About romance for me it fits for warden who cared about leliana and who those who just used her im fine with it unless they will start mess with that in dai.

This ain't an IMDB message board, this is a character discussion board not one where we discuss the right and wrongs of the Templars and Mages, you want to do that, go visit the right topic for it.

 

I have no problem with someone having a different view on a character. I'm not a fan of Cullen and will probably be civil enough to him in the game. But I don't go around and bash him. And bashing is what you are dangerously close of doing concerning the topic we're all discussing.

 

But hey, whatever man.



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As for the Redcliffe mission, sending Cullen myself, best option I feel to deal with a bunch of cray cray mages, ex-Templar and all that. Take em down with force, don't care much for a soft approach in this situation.