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[thesuperdarkone2]

I wonder how a romanced Leliana would react to finding out the Warden had a child with Morrigan.

[MissDragon]

 

 

I wonder how a romanced Leliana would react to finding out the Warden had a child with Morrigan.

 

You Betrayed ME!!!!

[Todrazok]

I wonder how a romanced Leliana would react to finding out the Warden had a child with Morrigan.

Depends on how you're Warden handled it. You could for example headcanon that your Warden explained it to her shortly after the battle. If the Warden kept it a secret, I imagine Leliana would be initially pissed, and jealous of Morrigan.

Ultimately I think Leliana would come to terms with it, given that the Warden survived DAO.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Well she was fine when my chars slept with morrgan well by fine i mean that romance was fine so not big deal.

[Todrazok]

The Warden didnt have to sleep with morrigan and betray Lelliana, they could have got allistar or loghain to do it. Cheating is still Cheating, OGB or no.

With Loghain you've got a point. I don't think she'd approve of sending Alistair to his death though. One thing to bear in mind aswell is that our knowledge of how the battle ends is metagaming. For all we know, the 3 Wardens participating in the battle could've died before reaching the Archdemon. In that scenario, having dark ritual done is simply pragmatic, as I imagine it wouldn't matter who lands the killing blow.

This got me thinking though, Leliana's reaction to the ritual would probably hinge on her hardening status. Given what we've seen of DAI, It's fair to say that the years hardened her regardless of how you handled the Marjoilane situation.

Edit: Stupid me, only noticed now that you were referring to doing the ritual itself, oh well, still got to ponder about the Sacrifice abit

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

It's moments like these that make me glad my Warden had the wrong equipment for OGB making and could never be tempted to do it anyway. And was probably having vigorous smexy time with Leliana in the other room while Alistair did the dirty deed. :S

[jlb524]

It's moments like these that make me glad my Warden had the wrong equipment for OGB making and could never be tempted to do it anyway. And was probably having vigorous smexy time with Leliana in the other room while Alistair did the dirty deed. :S

Truth.

I actually installed a mod that replaced the DR scene with a Warden/Leliana one.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Truth.
I actually installed a mod that replaced the DR scene with a Warden/Leliana one.

As did I, probably the same one. Anything to get rid of that creepy candle scene... *shudders*

[Todrazok]

Truth.

I actually installed a mod that replaced the DR scene with a Warden/Leliana one.

Oh my

[introverted_assassin]

I have missed so many good mods for Leli. Romance scene mods too because I saw one on YT that was very...detailed. I mean they couldn't show it in it's entirety on YT but man...I need that mod...'cept i don't play on a pc. I wish I could see that scene in it's entirety...like...is their a website that you can view nothing but modded scenes in their entirety? lol

[Fiery Phoenix]

I always thought the DR choice would be particularly problematic if it was only possible with the Warden, like in the case of a romanced Leliana. As it stands, we do have the option to have Loghain or Alistair do the deed with Morrigan instead of the Warden. The choice never feels 'forced' as a result.

 

My canon romanced Morrigan anyway, so the DR sounded like a feasible option in that case. I totally skipped it with my other Wardens, though.

[Pallas_Cosima]

Hi guys! I'm new here, I've never really used an Origin account but I'm a long time DA player. I've probably played the DA series more than any other games out there. Mass Effect is up there too. Deep RPGs are my thing! LOL Anyway, I'm someone who has always really cared about the idea of continuity between the games in the series. I've had great experiences, Mass Effect was fantastic, but also bad ones, DA II didn't read my save properly and I was all the way to the point where Leliana showed up before I realized. She treated the Warden like she was just some woman she used to know instead of the love of her life and it was so upsetting. I had to stop playing for awhile.

 

Anyway, the Keep sounds like a terrific solution for this kind of problem but I have a few questions. I skimmed a bit but this thread is 283 pages and I do have a job and responsibilities. LOL So have any of the writers talked about how she connects back to the Warden in this? Why is she running around with a new gang when her lover is Goddess knows where? Obviously including the Warden in this game would be incredibly difficult but without a good explanation it takes me out of my game and my headcanons. My Warden would want to be with her, fighting side by side if this cataclysmic stuff was going down. If they're separated there should be a good reason. It would be cool at least if Leliana was writing letters to the Warden, filling her in on what was going on. And I definitely want to be able to have the Inquisitor talk to her about the Warden and have Leliana actually talk about her like she's in love! Not "Oh hey, that Warden chick. She's cool." You know?

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Hi!

Well, the Warden went AWOL some time after act 3 of DA2, for one. It seems Leliana and co. were looking for them to no avail. However the Warden was stated to have an 'off-screen presence and a quest revolving around them' in DAI, so it's likely Leliana will have something special if she was the Warden's lover. Especially if it's a war table quest, which Leliana is heavily involved in. Perhaps Leliana can be sent to find them? We'll find out soon enough.

In my case, I'm going to have trouble believing my Warden would sit on the sidelines too, so I hope the explanation as to why she isn't with the Inquisition is a good one. She left the Wardens to be with Leliana at the end of Awakening, supposedly, so I've gotta wonder what's preoccupying her now.

Also, from this article. (I'd advise against reading it, spoilery.

Spoiler

It was in a conversation with Leliana, one of the handful of returning characters from previous games, that I realized the huge mistake I had made. I asked her to tell me about The Warden, the unnamed main character from the first game. "He died fighting the Archdemon," she told me wistfully.

I assume that dialogue will change depending on her relationship.

[FromMyths]

I'll admit I did romance Leliana with my male Warden (in the world status I'm carrying over)...but I always did wonder how she would react to the reason he and Alistair survived battle without sacrifice. It was one of the many choices in DAO I really had to think about. But in the end, I had him preform the ritual with Morrigan.

 

It wasn't a pleasant choice to make during my first playthrough; he was in a relationship Leliana, and Morrigan was more like a little sister in his story, which only made the situation more awkward. But the only other options was to send Alistair to his death (completely out of the question since he was king) or have him preform the ritual instead; both seemed cowardly even in theory because it seemed like throwing someone else under the bus to avoid the consequences yourself. And with how much Alistair came to trust my Warden with his past and friendship, it seemed too cruel to put that type of burden on his friend. 

 

And in the end Morrigan was a friend herself; she seemed genuinely determined to help him and had shown previous respect that he was in a relationship even before then, willingly backing down when they had a rather deep conversation with one another. The fact that she preferred to come to him first rather than Alistair seemed a lot like an act of trust; if she had to preform the ritual with a Warden, might as well do it with the one she considers to be her closest friend, right? Even the fact that she gives you a second option to the ritual could be a display of her not wanting a friend to die. There was also Leliana to consider; she had been through a great deal, and Wynne was not completely wrong about how losing the Warden would more than likely hurt her deeply. I couldn't picture my Warden all that willing to leave her side in such a way either. My Warden was a good person who put others before him most of the time, but there's a limit to how selfless a person could be.

 

Was it cheating? in a way, yes. But he did with out of sense of honor to protect another from dealing with the burden and a selfish desire stay at the side of someone he cared for. Whether it was right or wrong is up for debate.

 

Makes me wonder how Leliana and Morrigan will react if the Inquisitor gets to ask for their views about the Grey Warden; one was his lover and obviously cared for him deeply, but some of the dialogue did seem to suggest that Morrigan grew to have feeling for him as well... 

[chidingewe8036]

All I would like to see u guys is for my inquisitor to be able to romance Leliana if my Warden did not, why could'nt they have made that option rather than just saying "no she is not a romance sense she was romance in the first" not every player's Warden romanced her, give our inquisitors a chance sense she is already confirmed to be part of your struggle. She would be a familiar face for female or male inquisitors to be with, just an idea. I mean she is already there so why not? It's not like Morrigan, Isabela, Merrill, etc. situation, they are not confirmed to be part of the inquisition whereas Leliana clearly and visually is.

[AresKeith]

[New Kid]

All I would like to see u guys is for my inquisitor to be able to romance Leliana if my Warden did not, why could'nt they have made that option rather than just saying "no she is not a romance sense she was romance in the first" not every player's Warden romanced her, give our inquisitors a chance sense she is already confirmed to be part of your struggle. She would be a familiar face for female or male inquisitors to be with, just an idea. I mean she is already there so why not? It's not like Morrigan, Isabela, Merrill, etc. situation, they are not confirmed to be part of the inquisition whereas Leliana clearly and visually is.

They did it to annoy you obviously. I mean there is no justifiable reason why she shouldn't be romance-able, am I right?

[Barquiel]

Leliana not being a romance option doesn't really bother me because she is my canon DAO love interest, but I wonder if she turns the inquisitor down...or if there is simply no option to flirt with her.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

All I would like to see u guys is for my inquisitor to be able to romance Leliana if my Warden did not, why could'nt they have made that option rather than just saying "no she is not a romance sense she was romance in the first" not every player's Warden romanced her, give our inquisitors a chance sense she is already confirmed to be part of your struggle. She would be a familiar face for female or male inquisitors to be with, just an idea. I mean she is already there so why not? It's not like Morrigan, Isabela, Merrill, etc. situation, they are not confirmed to be part of the inquisition whereas Leliana clearly and visually is.

Already said this, because then people who romanced Leliana in DAO would have their options gimped in DAI. Which is avoided by making new characters for romances. It'd be retreading a lot of old ground anyway. You had your chance in Origins.

It's also possible she just isn't that into you.

[FromMyths]

@chidingwe8036

Leliana was already a love interest in DAO; if anyone wanted to romance her, they would've done so already.

Out of curiousity though, why do you want her to be a romance in this game to begin with? She was an option before this game and the Inquisitor is essentially in the same role as the Warden (excepted voiced and having to handle an even larger problem). What would make romancing her as an Inquisitor any different from what some already did as the Warden?

[JustValiant]

@chidingwe8036

Leliana was already a love interest in DAO; if anyone wanted to romance her, they would've done so already.

Out of curiousity though, why do you want her to be a romance in this game to begin with? She was an option before this game and the Inquisitor is essentially in the same role as the Warden (excepted voiced and having to handle an even larger problem). What would make romancing her as an Inquisitor any different from what some already did as the Warden?

 

Ten years can change a person a lot, and judging what we have seen so far of Leliana the Inquisition spymaster  hasn't much to do with the joyful ,heartful and kind of naive character the warden met in DA:O except her voice maybe. And although a lot of us might have romanced Leliana in DAO, romancing this changed, hardened Leliana this time in DAI could have been an interesting and different experience not only from a different person's point of view but simply under much different circumstances. It's strange that obviously this is quite hard to understand for a lot of people.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Ten years can change a person a lot, and judging what we have seen so far of Leliana the Inquisition spymaster  hasn't much to do with the joyful ,heartful and kind of naive character the warden met in DA:O except her voice maybe. And although a lot of us might have romanced Leliana in DAO, romancing this changed, hardened Leliana this time in DAI could have been an interesting and different experience not only from a different person's point of view but simply under much different circumstances. It's strange that obviously this is quite hard to understand for a lot of people.

 

She might have changed her outlook somewhat, but that doesn't mean she's an entirely new person. Any hypothetical romance arc would probably start feeling awfully familiar once you get into it. You'd still learn the same things about her as you get to know her better, her bard past/Marjolaine etc, once you start getting closer to her and she's more comfortable to you she'd probably end up feeling just like she did before, etc etc.

 

I just can't quite grasp why someone would take Previous Romance Take 2 (that a significant chunk of the playerbase would be locked out of anyway) over a brand new character to dig into that would have filled that hypothetical spot.

[chidingewe8036]

LOL u ask WHY I want my Inquisitor to romance her???? I think her look and voice speak for itself

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

LOL u ask WHY I want my Inquisitor to romance her???? I think her look and voice speak for itself

 

Well, make do with...

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

It's pretty cheap right now.