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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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TheKomandorShepard

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Is this a picture of you by any chance:

 

Meredith nah i have little common with her.

 

That could be an truthful assertion had she been tortured by the same people she freed, wich did NOT happen. 

 

Funny, you fear mages, and yet some of them are the most moral people I met in the game. Bethany, Wynne, Merrill (yeah, she does an lot of stupid things, but she is an incredibly nice person once you get past the whole mirror plot).

 

Mages are dangerous, but so are templars, who kill with swords brought by fear and religious zealotry. Merrill says it best:"Fear makes men more dangerous then magic ever could".

She helped cause war what was problem in redcliff in first case and reason why mages were there.

 

Morality doesn't matter when you can be possessed by demon or cause massive disaster by screwing somethig up.

 

Don't compare knife to nuclear bomb.

 

 

You say it as if it's a guarenteed outcome. If it's not simply because she was sent, then you may inadvertently cause her to succeed.

 

But not every mage causes destruction. As far I'm aware, there's no incidents are bad as Kirkwall.

 

And honestly, I don't care if you disagree with me about the whole Mage/Templar thing. My problem is that you're willing to mutilate a person because things turned out badly when she tried to do good. There's no morally justifiable way of phrasing that, it's just sick.

 

Off topic though, I've only seen you join character thread and say negative things about them. Is that all you do? If not, then I apolagise.

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Ehh read what i said many times "many mages do" and you can' tell who will and freeing them is just dumb as hell and war is pretty much because of that.

 

It is just action and consequence of that action pretty much if you touch fire and you burn you deserve it for own stupidity.

 

If you ask here mostly yes if you ask in other topics like morrigan it is 50/50.

 

 

nah qunari can be reasoned with so he's not that. From what ive read of his post seems like something else

I can be reasoned with but sadly for you "mages are abused and enslaved in hellish prisons" don't work on me.



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That description ignores the fact that Mages are people.

 

They're also weapons, walking bombs, hypnotoads and talking infirmaries, all in one convenient package. Failing to acknowledge or take into account the other parts is silly. 



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nah qunari can be reasoned with so he's not that. From what ive read of his post seems like something else

 

They can't be reasoned with. They label a thing, and that's that. It never changes. To Qunari, mage is equivalent to "dangerous thing" (Sarrebas) and never will it be another thing. 

 

The fact that Arvaraad flips out immediately once you tell him a mage is around is proof of that. His only response is to quell the "dangerous thing". It has no other purpose to him except to be controlled.



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Can we just ignore TKS? Literally all he does in here is come in and try to get a rise out of people. That's pretty much all you're doing when you come into a character's thread and say they deserve to be tortured and mutilated. 


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They can't be reasoned with. They label a thing, and that's that. It never changes. To Qunari, mage is equivalent to "dangerous thing" (Sarrebas) and never will it be another thing. 
 
The fact that Arvaraad flips out immediately once you tell him a mage is around is proof of that. His only response is to quell the "dangerous thing". It has no other purpose to him except to be controlled.

being general but point made. I have him on ignore so the issue is moot

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Im on my own side not qunari not templars sadly if you are against mages you end in pro-templar camp here.I have my own reasons why i want mages removed that are simple they are obstacles and danger to the whole world and by that to my characters.

 

 

 

Can we just ignore TKS? Literally all he does in here is come in and try to get a rise out of people. That's pretty much all you're doing when you come into a character's thread and say they deserve to be tortured and mutilated. 

 

I don't rly have to try (and i don't) to that happen.I commented on new infomation about her that and in my opinion she deserves i explained why.



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Can we just ignore TKS? Literally all he does in here is come in and try to get a rise out of people. That's pretty much all you're doing when you come into a character's thread and say they deserve to be tortured and mutilated.

this +1k just put him on ignore its easier lol

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I don't want to ignore him. I do wish he'd take time to write his posts though. And spell slightly better. No offense TKS, but it makes you come off like you're going on impatient angry rants.



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Meredith nah i have little common with her.

 

She helped cause war what was problem in redcliff in first case and reason why mages were there.

 

Morality doesn't matter when you can be possessed by demon or cause massive disaster by screwing somethig up.

 

Don't compare knife to nuclear bomb.

 

 

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Ehh read what i said many times "many mages do" and you can' tell who will and freeing them is just dumb as hell and war is pretty much because of that.

 

It is just action and consequence of that action pretty much if you touch fire and you burn you deserve it for own stupidity.

 

If you ask here mostly yes if you ask in other topics like morrigan it is 50/50.

I'm not discussing Mage/Templar stuff here, it's the leliana thread.

If the Mages that Leliana helped free were the ones torturing her, then yeah, it'd be cause and effect. Though I doubt it's be a direct result of her freeing them.

But that's not the situation here, someone who works for a mage, specifically a Tevinter Magister, who may or may not be a mage themself has tortured her, because you actively chose to throw her into a situation where she gets tortured. This is just you punishing her because she did something you don't like. That's all there is to it.



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They're also weapons, walking bombs, hypnotoads and talking infirmaries, all in one convenient package. Failing to acknowledge or take into account the other parts is silly. 

You're absolutely right, but I wasn't ignoring that, I was just pointing out that the description is flawed.

Enough about Mages in General though. This is the Leliana thread.



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So...out of scientific curiosity, all of you with Leliana romancing Wardens - if this little incident happened in your world state, would your Warden stay with her? y/n? 



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I don't want to ignore him. I do wish he'd take time to write his posts though. And spell slightly better. No offense TKS, but it makes you come off like you're going on impatient angry rants.

I just write things fast otherwise it would take forever to replay as my post often contain controversial opinions ,so it leads to a lot comments i have to respond.

 

 

I'm not discussing Mage/Templar stuff here, it's the leliana thread.

If the Mages that Leliana helped free were the ones torturing her, then yeah, it'd be cause and effect. Though I doubt it's be a direct result of her freeing them.

But that's not the situation here, someone who works for a mage, specifically a Tevinter Magister, who may or may not be a mage themself has tortured her, because you actively chose to throw her into a situation where she gets tortured. This is just you punishing her because she did something you don't like. That's all there is to it.

Well you know you did that comment before?

It is she helped start war by helping mages what was reason why mages were in redcliff...

 

 

 

So...out of scientific curiosity, all of you with Leliana romancing Wardens - if this little incident happened in your world state, would your Warden stay with her? y/n? 

Nope why would the warden date with zombie?

 

 



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So...out of scientific curiosity, all of you with Leliana romancing Wardens - if this little incident happened in your world state, would your Warden stay with her? y/n? 

 

In my case she'd either scour Thedas for a cure of some kind or die in the ensuing Venatori-revenge killing spree. Either or. 



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So...out of scientific curiosity, all of you with Leliana romancing Wardens - if this little incident happened in your world state, would your Warden stay with her? y/n? 

 

of course! My warden is a ******, but she won't abandon leliana no matter how bad she looks. (note: I'm not going to look at that huge spoiler image).



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So...out of scientific curiosity, all of you with Leliana romancing Wardens - if this little incident happened in your world state, would your Warden stay with her? y/n? 

He'd probably be put off at first, cause  seriously, seeing something that horrific would leave anyone a bit shaken, but yes, he would.

Actually, it's even more of a shame you can't romance her in Inquisition cause damn that'd have a strong impact.

 

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He'd probably be put off at first, cause  seriously, seeing something that horrific would leave anyone a bit shaken, but yes, he would.

Actually, it's even more of a shame you can't romance her in Inquisition cause damn that'd have a strong impact.

 

What with the Taint, I'm sure the Warden will look worse in a few decades, so I'd hope they'd not be that shallow?

 

Then again, maybe the Inquisitor might be? Does anyone else wonder if this might be the reason why we're not able to romance her? :?



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Well you know you did that comment before?

It is she helped start war by helping mages what was reason why mages were in redcliff... 

I think you're thinking of someone else.

I give up though. Your path of logic is clearly to different than mine.

 

 

What with the Taint, I'm sure the Warden will look worse in a few decades, so I'd hope they'd not be that shallow?

 

Then again, maybe the Inquisitor might be? Does anyone else wonder if this might be the reason why we're not able to romance her?  :?

 

Nah. Bioware love to break hearts. There's probably a way to mutilate at least one other LI interest. I'm betting Cullen loses an arm. Or his eyes.



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Nope why would the warden date with zombie? 

 

I don't know, support? The 'relationship' part of it would most likely be put on indefinite hold but I'd like to think any decent lover wouldn't just turn tail after something like this. 

 

Then again, maybe the Inquisitor might be? Does anyone else wonder if this might be the reason why we're not able to romance her? :?

 

Might be one of them. I'm pretty sure her already having been a romance is still the main one though.



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Can we just ignore TKS? 

 

Why anyone took him seriously in the first place is beyond me.

 

It's annoying for people to quote him though, IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE IGNORE BUTTON!  :angry:


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I think you're thinking of someone else.

I give up though. Your path of logic is clearly to different than mine.

 

If you say so...

 

 

I don't know, support? The 'relationship' part of it would most likely be put on indefinite hold but I'd like to think any decent lover wouldn't just turn tail after something like this. 

 

There is no sane man or woman would still be with person after that i mean many peoples will start speech how look doesn't matter but it is simple false she looks like living zombie.



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If you say so...

 

 

There is no sane man or woman would still be with person after that i mean many peoples will start speech how look doesn't matter but it is simple false she looks like living zombie.

I think ATTW was talking about being a good friend despite the relationship ending.

But yeah, I can see many people not being able to deal with that. I mean, where do you even start?

But the Warden is generally superior to most people at most things, so it boils down to whether they care enough about Leliana to do so.



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Why anyone took him seriously in the first place is beyond me.

 

It's annoying for people to quote him though, IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE IGNORE BUTTON!  :angry:

There's an ignore button? Please tell me where it is 



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There's an ignore button? Please tell me where it is 

 

Go to settings, "ignore preferences"



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There's an ignore button? Please tell me where it is

go to your settings and click ignore preferences rest is pie

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I love you guys right now