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[GenericEnemy]

Can someone throw out a link to this dreaded spoiler-y Redcliffe video? Tried finding it myself but can't

 

I made a post about it here. Don't care to go find the video itself. 

 

I'd advise against it, but...

[Ihatebadgames]

In the Josie thread i brought up the question. Isn't that reason for Cullen and Cole? To send/ take them places to ruff for the fair and lovely.(Josie, Sera, Cass and Leliana)

[l7986]

Spoiler

What if instead of sending Leliana we send Cullen and his soldiers. But this causes his soldiers to die and him to be captured instead.

Can you imagine the rage the Cullen camp/thread woul fly into if Cullen gets disfigured?

I would never need to eat again as their tears would sustain me for the rest of my days. On a semi related not I hope the Inquisitor can grow wings and fly away because my Warden will be coming after him once he deals with the people that tortured Leliana.

[NeverlandHunter]

I made a post about it here. Don't care to go find the video itself.

I'd advise against it, but...

Thank you I'll check out the link.

[Bfler]

On the picture she looks like Justice in Awakening.

[TaskCortez]

In the Josie thread i brought up the question. Isn't that reason for Cullen and Cole? To send/ take them places to ruff for the fair and lovely.(Josie, Sera, Cass and Leliana)

Cullen isn't a spy, infiltration isn't his department. I doubt he can go Instead.

Leliana is the spy, Cullen is the soldier and Josie the diplomat.

[TaskCortez]

Some people who haven't been following all news are going to get trolled. Hard.
 
Assuming he is an option Cullen is definitely getting the nod for that mission. Send the army. Spare no one.

This is an infiltration mission, obviously not Cullen's or Josie's department. Did no one pay attention to the videos explaining the war tables? There's certain missions only certain advisors can take part in.

This one could be Leliana exclusive. So if you are wanting to send Cullen instead, you might be disappointed.

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[GenericEnemy]

Cullen isn't a spy, infiltration isn't his department. I doubt he can go Instead.

Leliana is the spy, Cullen is the soldier and Josie the diplomat.

 

Except you wouldn't be sending Cullen to infiltrate. That's how the system works, each adviser will approach situations differently. Cullen would likely just besiege and storm the castle. 

 

I highly doubt they're going to force you into a consequence as dire as this for Leliana.

[TaskCortez]

Except you wouldn't be sending Cullen to infiltrate. That's how the system works, each adviser will approach situations differently. Cullen would likely just besiege and storm the castle. 
 
I highly, highly doubt they're going to force you into a consequence as dire as this for Leliana.

Don't be so sure. Not every tragedy can be avoided.

Not every adviser can be an option going by what we've seen of certain war table operations. There were certain operations that were only available to certain advisers or only to of them. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst is all I can tell you.

But yeah, if Cullen is an option, we'd just be invading with inquisition's army. The whole thing could play out differently.

Alternatively, maybe it's a simple matter of sending Leliana or not sending her and going ourselves.

[GenericEnemy]

Don't be so sure. Not every tragedy can be avoided.

 

Well, seeing how this entire questline is apparently determinant...it seems they can.

 

 

Not every adviser can be an option going by what we've seen of certain war table operations. There were certain operations that were only available to certain advisers or only to of them. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst is all I can tell you.

But yeah, if Cullen is an option, we'd just be invading with inquisition's army. The whole thing could play out differently.

Alternatively, maybe it's a simple matter of sending Leliana or not sending her and going ourselves.

 

What reason would there be for not being able to send Cullen, though? He's a Templar, these are mages. He's probably more qualified than Leliana is to deal with their ilk. 

[TaskCortez]

Well, seeing how this entire questline is apparently determinant...it seems they can.

So you are assuming. Though I won't deny there could be a way to save her or heal her.
 

 

What reason would there be for not being able to send Cullen, though? He's a Templar, these are mages. He's probably more qualified than Leliana is to deal with their ilk.

Ex Templar and it was never stated that Inquisition soldiers have Templar training(Though since we are fighting demons, it would be a good idea if they did).

Regardless, you keep tip toeing around the fact that we have seen that there are certain missions that only let us pick from one or two advisers instead of all three.

It's entirely possible that it could be the case here.

No offense if any BTW, i just don't think we should get our hopes up.

[GenericEnemy]

So you are assuming. Though I won't deny there could be a way to save her or heal her.

 

I'm not assuming. They implicitly said not everyone is even going to see that scenario in Redcliffe, and that Leliana going there and the repercussions of it was the result of a choice. It was right there in the video.  

 

Kind of kills the point of the whole system if major things like this are railroaded down one path, and she gets mutilated no matter what you do...

[Achaewa]

So you are assuming. Though I won't deny there could be a way to save her or heal her.
 

 

Ex Templar and it was never stated that Inquisition soldiers have Templar training(Though since we are fighting demons, it would be a good idea if they did).

Regardless, you keep tip toeing around the fact that we have seen that there are certain missions that only let us pick from one or two advisers instead of all three.

It's entirely possible that it could be the case here.

No offense if any BTW, i just don't think we should get our hopes up.

 

Someone here obviously does not understand the meaning of a branching storyline.

 

Bioware has said multiple times in different videos that the Redcliffe scenario is determined by your previous actions and hinted at that it only gets so dire if you royally screwed up the world.

[TaskCortez]

I'm not assuming. They implicitly said not everyone is even going to see that scenario in Redcliffe, and that Leliana going there and the repercussions of it was the result of a choice. It was right there in the video.  
 
Kind of kills the point of the whole system if major things like this are railroaded down one path, and she gets mutilated no matter what you do...

It has happened before in previous games, so i wouldn't be so sure.

And even if you're right, it doesn't mean the other advisors are an alternative(I especially don't see how diplomacy would work for this). It's entirely possible the choice is either letting her go by herself or telling to fall back.

[TaskCortez]

Someone here obviously does not understand the meaning of a branching storyline.
 

Oh i understand just fine, I'm just not overestimating the choices here. They can easily be limited for this scenario. I mean if it can be avoided, wouldn't the reviewer have done so?

[GenericEnemy]

It has happened before in previous games, so i wouldn't be so sure.

 

When in the past games have we ever been railroaded down a path that leads to something as dire as a character getting tortured and mutilated no matter what we do? 

 

They've said it up front that this doesn't necessarily happen. I'm not even sure why we're debating this.

 

Oh i understand just fine, I'm just not overestimating the choices here. They can easily be limited for this scenario. I mean if it can be avoided, wouldn't the reviewer have done so?

 

Reviewers sometimes explore various paths to get a sense of the plot divergence for the review, as they usually note...so no, that doesn't really say anything.

 

Alternatively, that's just what ended up happening in the reviewer's game. 

[Achaewa]

Oh i understand just fine, I'm just not overestimating the choices here. They can easily be limited for this scenario. I mean if it can be avoided, wouldn't the reviewer have done so?

There aren't any reviews yet and most of the time a reviewer only takes one path due to time constraints, which limits the options they can divulge.

 

So no, why would a reviewer tell us about it?

 

Some things are also left out as to not spoil things for us. Hence why a movie review doesn't mention plot twists or the ending.

[GenericEnemy]

There aren't any reviews yet 

 

Uhhh...I think you might be a bit behind on current events. 

[Achaewa]

Uhhh...I think you might be a bit behind on current events. 

Okay, my bad. Haven't really checked that part of the net yet.

 

But my words still stand: Deadlines put a damper on how much a reviewer can actually play when it comes to games as large as DAI, the same with Skyrim and probably Witcher 3. This has the result of them only telling us about the one path they took. I also doubt any of the reviewers used the Keep to import their own world state, if they even played the previous games.

 

A good example of a reviewer taking one path and not telling us about the other is Angry Joe and his review of Witcher 2, where he took Roche's path instead of Iorveth's and only showed footage from that storyline. I think...been a long time since I saw that video.

[blahblah]

Note For the Leliana thing:

 

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You can still send her on that redcliffe mission and she can come out with a normal face, its due to the circumstances of how you handle it..Thats all ill say

[GenericEnemy]

Note For the Leliana thing:
 

Spoiler

You can still send her on that redcliffe mission and she can come out with a normal face, its due to the circumstances of how you handle it..Thats all ill say

Spoiler

Source? Don't doubt you or anything, sounds about like what I expected, but it'd set my mind at ease.

[MisterJB]

Braaaaaaaaains.
Sorry.

[jlb524]

leliana pics from tumblr  (not really spoiler but i'll put them in tags anyway)

 

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http://iwettia.tumbl...ion-leliana-the

 

[Vixzer]

Well, seeing how this entire questline is apparently determinant...it seems they can.

 

 

 

What reason would there be for not being able to send Cullen, though? He's a Templar, these are mages. He's probably more qualified than Leliana is to deal with their ilk. 

 

 

That is true, better than to send a spy in the middle of a camp of mages, just send in the templars and be done with it, they have a lot more chance to deal with it if things blow up than a single spy have anyway... I know it is Leliana but come on, they are Mages...

 

Anyway, I guess we will need more info when/if this mission turns up

[Bluto Blutarskyx]

I think they will likely give us a "clue" about who the most appropriate advisor is to complete a situation is.

This result seems more like the player chosig against whatever hints are given.