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[Zu Long]

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I let her kill the agent but I told her that soldiers are not expendable. I guess if you want to save her you can't middle ground it. That's disappointing. Feels like a suckerpunch from the writers that if you let her run her own show at the beginning she becomes a heartless monster. Good to know for when I do my perfected run though.

[Mortarion]

So, I

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remained silent in the convo where Leliana talks about killing someone who betrayed her, I think this is the convo you are talking about the one that happens in that tent in Haven, does that mean she'll become hardened?

[Cat Fancy]

Hmm.

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I never hardened Leliana in Origins and I was skeptical of the DARK LELIANA I saw in promotional stuff (like Redcliffe), but I actually rather like her in this game. As for how she'll turn out this playthrough, I know I told her not to kill the first guy. I told her to use him, but the conversation ended up taking a different tone in the end (not that I wanted it to - I don't think she was necessarily wrong about offing him). I forget what I said to her during the second. I don't know enough about the last quest yet to know I'll feel about her staying hardened, if indeed that's all that's in the cards for me. Like I said, I don't think it seemed immoral or particularly unwise to kill that agent early in the game, so if she's just going to keep making decisions like that, I'm not too heartbroken. I hope she ends up as Divine, too.

[Jaison1986]

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I let her kill the agent but I told her that soldiers are not expendable. I guess if you want to save her you can't middle ground it. That's disappointing. Feels like a suckerpunch from the writers that if you let her run her own show at the beginning she becomes a heartless monster. Good to know for when I do my perfected run though.

 

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So, you need to push her to the "light side of the force" in order to make Leliana divine? Or can you make her ruthless and she still takes the job? Because I for one prefers hardened Leliana.

[jlb524]

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So, you need to push her to the "light side of the force" in order to make Leliana divine? Or can you make her ruthless and she still takes the job? Because I for one prefers hardened Leliana.

 

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Nope.

 

She became Divine for me and she was more ruthless.

[Zu Long]

So, I

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remained silent in the convo where Leliana talks about killing someone who betrayed her, I think this is the convo you are talking about the one that happens in that tent in Haven, does that mean she'll become hardened?

 

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Based on my experience, yes.

 

 

Hmm.

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I never hardened Leliana in Origins and I was skeptical of the DARK LELIANA I saw in promotional stuff (like Redcliffe), but I actually rather like her in this game. As for how she'll turn out this playthrough, I know I told her not to kill the first guy. I told her to use him, but the conversation ended up taking a different tone in the end (not that I wanted it to - I don't think she was necessarily wrong about offing him). I forget what I said to her during the second. I don't know enough about the last quest yet to know I'll feel about her staying hardened, if indeed that's all that's in the cards for me. Like I said, I don't think it seemed immoral or particularly unwise to kill that agent early in the game, so if she's just going to keep making decisions like that, I'm not too heartbroken. I hope she ends up as Divine, too.

 

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See if you still feel that way after her quest. I had no problem with her until that point.

 

 

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So, you need to push her to the "light side of the force" in order to make Leliana divine? Or can you make her ruthless and she still takes the job? Because I for one prefers hardened Leliana.

 

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She can still become divine, that's based more on your previous choices regarding mages and the chantry with various characters throughout the game, as well as who you decide to support.

[Espurr]

I'm actually wonder if a "hardened" Leliana is MORE likely to become Divine, considering how my conversations with her have been going

 

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I didn't let her kill the agent at the beginning. I just did her personal quest and had a whole dialogue with her about her losing herself, first as a bard and then as the left hand of the Divine. She took Justinia's note as release from her duties, and an apology. She seems pretty intent on separating herself from the Chantry at an official level and just being Leliana again. To the point where I asked her if she was going to leave me.

 

She said not until this Inquisition is finished, but that she does want to leave when this is over. She seems to want exactly nothing to do with being Divine at this point, while Cassandra seems pretty down with the idea (if needing a confidence boost) in the convos I've had with her. 

 

If she ends up Divine at this point I'll be pretty pissed because she clearly doesn't want it at all. I'm interested to hear how her attitude differs in other playthroughs since it seems like a lot of people are getting a different Leliana.

 

Also worth a note: I told the Chantry representative that it was Cassandra and Leliana's decision.

 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Just completed the 'Here Lies the Abyss' quest, and thus finally got the Warden stuff. 

 

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She sounded so happy remembering that all. 

 

Gah, please don't become Divine. Though after that, and hearing all the things they went through so the Warden wouldn't die prematurely on her...I guess I can see why the Leliana/Warden relationship might not end if Leliana became Divine. Would be pretty awful to just throw all that away. 

 

The Warden is apparently doing it mostly for her, after all...

 

[Lady Artifice]

Can I PM someone here to discuss spoilery Leliana at Redcliff stuff? 

 

I just save scummed the hell out that mission. Forget going in blind. I do not accept this result. I don't care if I do have to side with the Templars to avoid it. 

[Zu Long]

Can I PM someone here to discuss spoilery Leliana at Redcliff stuff?

I just save scummed the hell out that mission. Forget going in blind. I do not accept this result. I don't care if I do have to side with the Templars to avoid it.

I'm down, hit me with it.

[NeverlandHunter]

Sooo Leliana...

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I let her kill the traitor having no idea how much it would effect her. I spent the whole game after that trying to make her nice. "Soldiers aren't expendable, don't kill Chantry sisters, yada yada." But nope she became Divine Victoria de Murder People to Make Change. My Amell would not approve. Not not not.

Also Leliana is a much prettier name than Victoria (no offense Victorias).

Side note for Origin romancers of Leliana how did she react to her lover being missing?

I miss the simpler times of sitting around a camp fire with Leliana, speaking telepathically with her about her past. My poor Leliana :'( you've changed.

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Dragon Age Origins - Leliana's Song (HD):

^Not really a Inquisition spoiler just a video from Origins, but just in case someone gets upset.

[N7_Heartfire]

Okay, so anyone got to her other quest, not the one about killing the sister/losing herself? She's supposed to have two, where is it?

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Sooo Leliana...

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Side note for Origin romancers of Leliana how did she react to her lover being missing?

Well... (bloody hell spoiler tags aren't working.)

[spoiler]She knew where a romanced Warden was all along, much like Varric did with Hawke.

[Zu Long]

Sooo Leliana...

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I let her kill the traitor having no idea how much it would effect her. I spent the whole game after that trying to make her nice. "Soldiers aren't expendable, don't kill Chantry sisters, yada yada." But nope she became Divine Victoria de Murder People to Make Change. My Amell would not approve. Not not not.

Also Leliana is a much prettier name than Victoria (no offense Victorias).

Side note for Origin romancers of Leliana how did she react to her lover being missing?

I miss the simpler times of sitting around a camp fire with Leliana, speaking telepathically with her about her past. My poor Leliana :'( you've changed.

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Dragon Age Origins - Leliana's Song (HD):

^Not really a Inquisition spoiler just a video from Origins, but just in case someone gets upset.

Welcome to the club.

[introverted_assassin]

i've been hesitant to comment about the game because I'm still playing through but my waifu is...different. I understand but it was quite jarring at first.

[Espurr]

i've been hesitant to comment about the game because I'm still playing through but my waifu is...different. I understand but it was quite jarring at first.

 

Depending on how you interact with her, it's definitely possible to get her a bit happier again. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

It's actually pretty bloody sad when you think about it.

Asking her if she knows any stories in Origins: "Of course! I love stories far too much to keep them to myself!"

Asking her if she knows any stories in Inquisition: "Check the library. I'm sure they have some."

[introverted_assassin]

She smiled briefly when my Trevelyan became Inquisitor...head canon is he saw what she is going through because he is too...lost fam at that conclave man...(a character I created to romance Cassie because of reasons. Yeah I'm doing the insane thing running two playthroughs)

[NeverlandHunter]

Welcome to the club.

We shall morn the loss of cute and girly Leliana together.

[Espurr]

Ok I'm really curious. Has anyone who DIDN'T romance her in Origins managed to get:

 

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... the non-stabby version of her personal quest? A friend told me she prevented Leliana from killing the spy at the beginning, but still had her kill Sister Natalie regardless of dialogue. She didn't have her romanced by the warden in that save, and I'm starting to genuinely wonder if her romance with the warden has an effect on her personality. The letter from my warden had a note that she knows Leliana is having a rough time of it and to please take care of her and help her "find her way back to the light" and I felt like I actually achieved that with her personal quest.

 

At this point it wouldn't make sense for her to even agree to be a candidate for Divine. Since I told the chantry representative it was Cassandra and Leliana's choice to go or not, I hope that factors in.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

...I kinda wish I could snoop on the Warden's 'note of a personal nature' to Leliana that was mentioned in the letter, not gonna lie. :S

[mrcrazyman]

Ok I'm really curious. Has anyone who DIDN'T romance her in Origins managed to get:

 

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... the non-stabby version of her personal quest? A friend told me she prevented Leliana from killing the spy at the beginning, but still had her kill Sister Natalie regardless of dialogue. She didn't have her romanced by the warden in that save, and I'm starting to genuinely wonder if her romance with the warden has an effect on her personality. The letter from my warden had a note that she knows Leliana is having a rough time of it and to please take care of her and help her "find her way back to the light" and I felt like I actually achieved that with her personal quest.

 

At this point it wouldn't make sense for her to even agree to be a candidate for Divine. Since I told the chantry representative it was Cassandra and Leliana's choice to go or not, I hope that factors in.

 

I don't know about how/if a DAO romance version changes things but it's not just that decision.

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How you respond to her when you first reach Skyhold also plays a role. Someone with the guide confirmed my guess that you also have to tell her she did the right thing by pulling back her agents at Haven rather than saying soldiers die.

 

Overall I wasn't overall pleased with her personal quest especially if romanced since

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because of the last line in the note "I beg you, if she is faltering, help her find her way back into the light.". By the time you get that note you've already made the choices that influence her personal quest so you may not have the ability to follow through with the Wardens request even if it's just flavor text. I can understand the insistence that choices matter and have repercussions but It just seemed meh. That said it was nice to unharden her.

"I'm told that ambassador Montilyet is pleased with the... restraint you showed in Valence."

"Ugh, She's postively beside herself. I will never hear the end of it"

"Niceness before knives, Leliana! Haven't I always told you?"

[Brentalfan724]

Does anyone have a video of Leliana talking about a romanced warden after "Here Lies the Abyss"? 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Well, I've finally reached the whole Divine part.

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I've supported Cassandra, and I believe what I've said throughout the game has been more in line with her. Hopefully that's what matters, I have mages as full allies and all three rulers working together. Sadly I don't have much faith in getting Cass over Leliana.

[jlb524]

...I kinda wish I could snoop on the Warden's 'note of a personal nature' to Leliana that was mentioned in the letter, not gonna lie. :S

 

I felt the same.  Why couldn't Leliana accidentally give you the wrong letter?