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[TheLittleBird]

I'm just reading these posts here about the difference between hardened and unhardened Leliana and what Cole says about her... and my heart is being hit in the feels.

 

In my first and canon playthrough I just let her kill the traitor as it felt off to just interfere with the spymaster's job, when she's evidently so good at it. Now I kind of regret making that decision, but in the end, I won't go back and change it in my canon. It doesn't feel right to do so, and while it's kind of a sad and, in a way, tragic outcome for Leliana... a part of me likes the impact of the realization that I've done the wrong thing. Call me a masochist - I won't argue, considering I've made more decisions in this game that are now part of my canon, but which have made me feel sadness and regret.

 

Sorry Warden, but my Inquisitor has failed you.

[God is Tigger]

LOL, dammit BioWare. If I can't romance her, why do you keep having her do things that make me want to romance her! That little smile and nod she gave me when she was finished talking with Josephine? It wasn't much, but it completely derailed my intended flirting with Josie.

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

Mages Support Quest

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The Mage Quest with the time spell Lil looks like she is very old

[thesuperdarkone2]

Wait, it's now possible to have a romanced Leliana and have a regular child with Morrigan in the Keep? Shame that Leliana is pretty much the only companion that references the Warden romance all the time regardless of choices since for me, I didn't go through the Eluvian with Morrigan and she pretty much says "it was difficult to leave" my warden but apart from that, the romance is never mentioned ever again. FML.

[TheLittleBird]

Mages Support Quest

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The Mage Quest with the time spell Lil looks like she is very old

 

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I may have been horrified when I saw her then. My beautiful Leli

 

But well... she had been tortured for about a year so yeah.... her face was kind of ruined. Not by age, but torture.

[prosthetic soul]

LOL, dammit BioWare. If I can't romance her, why do you keep having her do things that make me want to romance her! That little smile and nod she gave me when she was finished talking with Josephine? It wasn't much, but it completely derailed my intended flirting with Josie.

I personally can't get enough of that idle stance of her's.  The way she has her hips cocked to one side with her hands elegantly placed behind her back.  Something about that stance....is just...hnnngg

[TheLittleBird]

I personally can't get enough of that idle stance of her's.  The way she has her hips cocked to one side with her hands elegantly placed behind her back.  Something about that stance....is just...hnnngg

 

Yes, it... *drools*

 

I myself just keep talking to her.

 

"Having the Templars join the Inquisition has done wonders for our reputation. The people trust the Templars, and now they trust us."
Those words are imprinted on the side of my brain. The way she sort of fiddles with her hands during those 'over the shoulder'-type conversations....

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

She got significantly more dem hips/dem thighs. To think she said she didn't like them in DA:O.

 

Warden is going to be shocked when they return to Thedas to find the whole land and all its people went through an engine change while they were gone.  

 

I'm just reading these posts here about the difference between hardened and unhardened Leliana and what Cole says about her... and my heart is being hit in the feels.

 

In my first and canon playthrough I just let her kill the traitor as it felt off to just interfere with the spymaster's job, when she's evidently so good at it. Now I kind of regret making that decision, but in the end, I won't go back and change it in my canon. It doesn't feel right to do so, and while it's kind of a sad and, in a way, tragic outcome for Leliana... a part of me likes the impact of the realization that I've done the wrong thing. Call me a masochist - I won't argue, considering I've made more decisions in this game that are now part of my canon, but which have made me feel sadness and regret.

 

Sorry Warden, but my Inquisitor has failed you.

 

Heh, I don't have your willpower. It was the same story for me, she went full-dark my first playthrough because I was unaware killing Butler would have such an effect, but I've since nope'd that one and replaced it with a new one. 

 

I gotchyo back, Warden. 

[Nerdage]

In my first and canon playthrough I just let her kill the traitor as it felt off to just interfere with the spymaster's job, when she's evidently so good at it. Now I kind of regret making that decision, but in the end, I won't go back and change it in my canon. It doesn't feel right to do so, and while it's kind of a sad and, in a way, tragic outcome for Leliana... a part of me likes the impact of the realization that I've done the wrong thing.

Same, I just did what seemed correct for my character, I didn't even know 'hardening' was a thing until after I finished that play-through and came here, but I'm not going to replay the whole game to change it. If the "Don't kill him" option were more along the lines of "He would be useful alive" then maybe, but telling her how to do her job when I've only just arrived seemed wrong enough without being all "Traitors who murder our agents are people too!" about it.

[Basement Cat]

Same, I just did what seemed correct for my character, I didn't even know 'hardening' was a thing until after I finished that play-through and came here, but I'm not going to replay the whole game to change it. If the "Don't kill him" option were more along the lines of "He would be useful alive" then maybe, but telling her how to do her job when I've only just arrived seemed wrong enough without being all "Traitors who murder our agents are people too!" about it.

Actually there is an option to tell her that, but it's in the second part of the conversation. The 'summary' lines are very misleading sometimes. The 'don't kill him' one could be interpreted as an order, but what the Inquisitor actually says is 'Wait. Do you have to kill him?'

 

Hurray for save and reload!

[Hornless Qunari/Human DPS]

You have the option not to interrupt you know.

[Milan92]

You have the option not to interrupt you know.

 

She will still kill the sister later.

 

You have to tell her not to kill Butler. Otherwise she will always go dark side.

[TheLittleBird]

Yes, I didn't interrupt. Because, you know, it's Leliana. We all love her, we all know how damn good she must be about her job. Why would my Inquisitor even interfere? 

 

At least, that's what I thought.

[Milan92]

Yes, I didn't interrupt. Because, you know, it's Leliana. We all love her, we all know how damn good she must be about her job. Why would my Inquisitor even interfere? 

 

At least, that's what I thought.

 

Because their moses the herald.

[Wulfram]

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I may have been horrified when I saw her then. My beautiful Leli

 

But well... she had been tortured for about a year so yeah.... her face was kind of ruined. Not by age, but torture.

 

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I think there was a text thing somewhere that suggested they'd inflicted the Blight on her as part of some sort of experiment

[TheLittleBird]

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I think there was a text thing somewhere that suggested they'd inflicted the Blight on her as part of some sort of experiment

 

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Could be, yeah. Sadly I skimmed over all the notes and codex entries found during that mission considering I only did it to see what it's like, reloading an earlier save on my siding-with-the-Templars-playthrough. But yeah could very well be that. I did hear they were using bits of her skin and flesh in experiments on other people because she was immune to something? Not sure, read that in another thread. Which is horrifying ;-;

[CredulousAlloy]

That's bizarre. I told her to look after her agents, and not to kill Natalie, and yet killing one traitor changes everything? What. whaaaat.

I told her not to kill the traitor, to look after her agents, and not to kill Natalie, and she still turned into a complete sociopath. I do find this side to her interesting, but it's a little disheartening that I couldn't seem to stop her turning to "the dark side" despite apparently making all the right choices.

[God is Tigger]

I like to choose the flirt options with everyone but I just realized that I better be careful to not end up hurting Josie in some way because Leliana would kill me. Probably literally.

[GrinningRogue]

Does her eye color change in Inquisition? I've been replaying DAO and it looks kinda different....

[Basement Cat]

I came across an interesting tidbit: You know how you can ask your companions and advisors about the other people they work with? Ask them about Leliana before and after her personal quest. The dialogue changes.

 

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I softened her for this playthrough.

Blackwall said she seemed nice. A little frightening, but nice.

Cullen said that she seemed happier and that his messengers are no longer scared of her. 

Sera says: nope, not messing with Leliana. Pretty but.. wow. Bards, right?

I'm curious what they say if she goes off the deep end...

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

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Could be, yeah. Sadly I skimmed over all the notes and codex entries found during that mission considering I only did it to see what it's like, reloading an earlier save on my siding-with-the-Templars-playthrough. But yeah could very well be that. I did hear they were using bits of her skin and flesh in experiments on other people because she was immune to something? Not sure, read that in another thread. Which is horrifying ;-;

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Alexius was basically experimenting with her tissue to heal Felix. It appears her time during the Blight gave her some immunity or something.

Does her eye color change in Inquisition? I've been replaying DAO and it looks kinda different....

I don't think so, it was supposed to be a more pale blue in Origins, which it is in Inquisition. DAO just made it look green sometimes.

[mrcrazyman]

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I think there was a text thing somewhere that suggested they'd inflicted the Blight on her as part of some sort of experiment

 

 

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Could be, yeah. Sadly I skimmed over all the notes and codex entries found during that mission considering I only did it to see what it's like, reloading an earlier save on my siding-with-the-Templars-playthrough. But yeah could very well be that. I did hear they were using bits of her skin and flesh in experiments on other people because she was immune to something? Not sure, read that in another thread. Which is horrifying ;-;

 

 

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Alexius was basically experimenting with her tissue to heal Felix. It appears her time during the Blight gave her some immunity or something.

 

 

 

Yeah here is the note. It's behind a wall that can be bashed down.

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[Wulfram]

Yeah here is the note. It's behind a wall that can be bashed down.

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Guess if Felix is wearing her skin, it explains why she's quite so stabbity with him

[TheLittleBird]

Yeah here is the note. It's behind a wall that can be bashed down.

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*screams in terror*

[Todrazok]

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*screams in terror*

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Yeah.... I read through all those codexes when first going through Redcliffe and well just... wow. Leliana went through some twisted stuff in that alternate timeline

At the same time I do find it interesting though. I assume Alexius was researching the blight for the sake of Felix obviously, but perhaps also on behalf of Corypheus. Corypheus stated that he was going to "correct this blighted world" after his ascension, yet the Redcliffe seems to indicate that Corypheus simply wants to destroy everything after having accomplished his goal. Most likely he probably went even more crazy after going to the black city for a second time.