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[N7_Heartfire]

The Warden probably told her.

 

In my playthrough the canon was a male Cousland Warden who romanced Leliana and did the Dark Ritual with Morrigan. In DA:I there was conversation with Leliana where she tells the Inquisitor that she's thankful for what Morrigan did (referring to the DR) because without it, the Warden would be dead.

 

So I'd guess that the conversation with the Warden occurs regardless of who did the DR.

 

 

 

Actually Leliana's ethnic background is partially Orlesian as well. She's half Orlesian and half Ferelden.

 

In DA:O in one of the dialogue options with the Warden she reveals that her father was Orlesian. It only happens in one dialogue choice so it is easy to miss. Its also the only time as far as I'm aware that she ever mentions her father.

 

My impression of her background given the time frame, is that her mother probably fell in love with someone who was connected to the Orlesian occupation of Ferelden in some capacity, whether military or civilian. That might explain why her mother left Ferelden. In the real world, look at how the French or Dutch women who were involved with German soldiers were treated following the liberation of those countries in World War Two. I would imagine a similar mood would be present in Ferelden following Orlais' withdraw.

 

I think Leliana was born after the Orlesian occupation. This is something you can ask her in the first conversations with her. She's never been to Ferelden until after Marjolaine's betrayal. If she was born during the occupation then she would be in her 40s during Inquisition, and she...sort of looks just as young as Josephine. Heck, Celene's supposed to be in her mid 30s yet she looked so wrinkled she makes Leliana and Cassandra look late 20s.

 

Didn't know there was a dialogue option about her father, if it's true then very interesting, though sort of expected her father to have been Orlesian.

[SgtSteel91]

Quick Question: Does Cassandra stay on as Right Hand of the Divine if Leliana is elected?

[Han Shot First]

I think Leliana was born after the Orlesian occupation. This is something you can ask her in the first conversations with her. She's never been to Ferelden until after Marjolaine's betrayal. If she was born during the occupation then she would be in her 40s during Inquisition, and she...sort of looks just as young as Josephine. Heck, Celene's supposed to be in her mid 30s yet she looked so wrinkled she makes Leliana and Cassandra look late 20s.

 

Didn't know there was a dialogue option about her father, if it's true then very interesting, though sort of expected her father to have been Orlesian.

 

The Orlesian occupation of Ferelden ended in 9:02 Dragon. Assuming Leliana was conceived that same year she'd be 27 or 28 in DA:O and 38 or 39 in DA:I. I'd say its at least plausible that she could have been born during the war or immediately after. But even if she is too young to have been conceived during the war, it doesn't necessarily rule out her father as having taken part in the Orlesian occupation in some way. Her parents could have met during the war and she could have been born some years after.

 

The war might provide an explanation though both as to why her mother left Ferelden & never returned (seen as a colloborator, even if just because her choice in love interest) and to why Leliana never says much about her father compared to her mother and Lady Cecile. Maybe he was killed near the end of the war and she never knew him.

[jORUBA]

Quick Question: Does Cassandra stay on as Right Hand of the Divine if Leliana is elected?

No. Leliana has other plans for this position.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Leliana was in the 26-28 range in DAO, according to the toolset IIRC. Doesn't necessarily mean much but that range would work with her being born shortly after her mother fled after the end of the occupation.

[introverted_assassin]

Leli was lowkey cradle robbing with my fem city elf

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Yeah...my Warden was Dalish, and given dialogue in the origin I don't imagine she could have been much older than very early 20s. Bah, only 6-8 years difference. :S

[Nerdage]

I like that Leli meets the CE's mother, and mom says she'll teach her kid about her.

I binned a dalish character I was holding on to for a city elf after that, must admit.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

That whole thing kinda weirded me out.

 

The Warden isn't that young, are they? That was only a couple years before DA:O. 

[PickledGear]

I believe the Warden and Alistair are near the same age range. At least the Cousland Warden, Amell Warden would have to be young as well, they do go through their harrowing at the start. 

Seems as though age isn't a problem in Thedas when it comes to love I guess? I've noticed even being 2 or 3 years apart begins conversations of the age gap in real life but if the Warden and Leliana are 8 years apart there is nothing.

I like to think Leliana is 25 years old by DA:O, She has to be younger then Cassandra in my mind.

But remember to those who mention character ages in the DA Toolset, Bioware employees have said that the ages in the Toolset don't ultimately set the actual age of the characters.

[vertigomez]

Leliana was in the 26-28 range in DAO, according to the toolset IIRC. Doesn't necessarily mean much but that range would work with her being born shortly after her mother fled after the end of the occupation.

Yep, toolset said 26.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Yeah, toolset ages aren't exact. They were supposed to be the general age range they told the voice actors to shoot for, though, so they're probably close. 26 is probably a safe bet for Leliana in any event.

 

On that note the toolset also put Tamlen and Merrill around the 20 range, so I'm guessing Mahariel is around there as well. I think dwarf Wardens are the only ones who could feasibly be a bit older. 

 

Age differences don't really bother me much. They're still both in the 20s, anywho - not that much.

 

If she's 26, then I imagine she's late teens in her DLC. Forgot when it takes place. By the time DAO starts, the CE Warden would be an appropriate age to romance her. It's such a good origin pairing for Leli though (imo). Tabris is a wild child.

 

I don't think Leliana's Song was that much before DA:O. She apparently arrived in Lothering in 9:28, though I'm not sure how long she was with the Chantry before going to Lothering. 

[vertigomez]

Yeah, toolset ages aren't exact. They were supposed to be the general age range they told the voice actors to shoot for, though, so they're probably close. 26 is probably a safe bet for Leliana in any event.

On that note the toolset also put Tamlen and Merrill around the 20 range, so I'm guessing Mahariel is around there as well. I think dwarf Wardens are the only ones who could feasibly be a bit older.

According to the toolset (disclaimer: not always accurate, yadda yadda ), Trian's 25 and Bhelen's 21, and the DN being the middle child has to fit somewhere in there. Rica's explicitly stated to be the DC's older sister, and she's 22.

For what it's worth, I think Shianni and Soris are both listed as being 20, so Tabris could be a little younger or older depending on how you RP.

It's fun to think about, anyway.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

According to the toolset (disclaimer: not always accurate, yadda yadda ), Trian's 25 and Bhelen's 21, and the DN being the middle child has to fit somewhere in there. Rica's explicitly stated to be the DC's older sister, and she's 22.
For what it's worth, I think Shianni and Soris are both listed as being 20, so Tabris could be a little younger or older depending on how you RP.
It's fun to think about, anyway.

Bhelen? 21?

Damn, I wasn't brutally eliminating all competition in my family and reforming a kingdom until I was at least 26. What have I been doing with my life?

[vertigomez]

Bhelen? 21?
Damn, I wasn't brutally eliminating all competition in my family and reforming a kingdom until I was at least 26. What have I been doing with my life?

Hey, we can't all be perfect.

It does make Cailan and Alistair look really sad, though.

[RenAdaar]

It runs in the family! 

 

Oh, and this other piece by Flauschtraut

Leliana wants a hug.

This should have been an option after returning from In Hushed Whispers.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

21 is an arrogant age. Most kids just got out of highschool/enter college and think they're god's gift to the world..and that nobody has read Nietzsche before. Or cared about social justice. Or drank. Or has listened to good music.

 

...meanwhile, I was probably sitting around in my underwear playing Super Smash Bros. 

[TheLittleBird]

Now I kind of fear for the day I become 21...

 

I'm gonna have to warn my brother. And my parents. Damn, it's tough being a prince of Zamunda. 

[Han Shot First]

Yeah, toolset ages aren't exact. They were supposed to be the general age range they told the voice actors to shoot for, though, so they're probably close. 26 is probably a safe bet for Leliana in any event.

 

 

I think mid-to-late 20s in DA:O is probably ballpark, even without the toolset. I say that because its said in DA:O that Leliana is older than she looks, which to me rules out her being in her early 20s.