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[TheLittleBird]

She still loves the Warden, as was made abundantly clear in DAI. I don't imagine you'd even get the option in a world-state where that happened. Leliana wouldn't do that.

I'd still keep Warden/Leliana as my canon if the hypothetical option did exist. Because the feels her references to the Warden in DA:I bring>>>>>>>Another romance, tbh.

 

Oh I know... but if the option were there when she didn't romance the Warden... sorry, Warden

Because I'd never break up the Warden and Leliana... 

 

but yeah, the feels brought up by her references to the Warden in DA:I are enough anyway. Poor Leliana, though.

Spoiler

She has a lover who will die early, going on his Calling... and now she can't spend time with him because he's looking for a cure to that Calling. What if he never finds it? Talk about time wasted. 

 

Though In Hushed Whispers does hint at him exactly needing to be with her if he's ever going to succeed in finding the cure.

[Han Shot First]

I wasn't fond of how they were too lazy to set it in Orlais and just stuck it in Denerim, but more Leliana is more Leliana.

 

Since it's bookended by Leliana telling a story to someone, I think that we play through the version of the story she is telling and not necessarily the real events. Basically I think the DLC is similar to the initial exaggerated intro to DA2 that turns out to be Varric stretching the truth.

 

It's the only thing that makes sense IMO, since the story she tells the Warden differs significantly in some details from what we saw in the DLC. Also the rather lighthearted manner of Leliana's narration in the DLC suggests she is in story-teller mode (like a Bard) rather than spelling her guts to a close companion or lover, like she does in DA:O. Where the two versions of that story differ, I think the version told in the main game is the correct one.

 

Or at leas that's my head canon to fix the discrepancies. I'm not sure if the devs ever gave it much thought beyond, "Hey we need to set this in Ferelden so we can reuse old assets."

[AWTEW]

 

That was hilarious! Thx!!

[Dune01]

Does anyone know who Leliana's friend that has two names and that she misses dearly? Is it the Warden(imported world state where they are together)? This happens at the end of Cole's quest, when he wonders how will he put honey in her wine.

[Wulfram]

Does anyone know who Leliana's friend that has two names and that she misses dearly? Is it the Warden(imported world state where they are together)? This happens at the end of Cole's quest, when he wonders how will he put honey in her wine.

 

Dorothea/Justinia

[Dune01]

Dorothea/Justinia

Ah, right. Didn't think it through, thanks.

[LadyStoneheart]

Welp just did some fast traveling out of skyhold and back and got the Sera stealing Josie underthings one . Can't believe I missed these maybe it's because I usually fast traveled to her.

 

Sigh, I'm finishing the game and I never got any of these dialogues. The only dialogue I can trigger when I go to the rookery is:

 

"At your service, my lady"

"Anything I should know?"

"I've nothing to report at the moment"

"I'll leave you to your work"

 

 

Spoiler

On the plus side I managed to unharden Leliana, which is particularly rewarding considering I knew nothing about her personal quest and its possible outcomes when I had my first conversations with her. Yesterday Cullen told me her spirits have been higher since Valence and his messengers are less frightened of her, while Cole says she "blooms on the bush" and knows how to sing again

Now I just hope she won't become Divine at the end of this playthrough. I supported Cassandra in every way, Vivienne agrees with me (so I guess she's out of the picture) and the gossipers in Val Royeaux keep saying that the Right Hand will become Divine soon. Does this even count?  

[Basement Cat]

Sigh, I'm finishing the game and I never got any of these dialogues. The only dialogue I can trigger when I go to the rookery is:

 

"At your service, my lady"

"Anything I should know?"

"I've nothing to report at the moment"

"I'll leave you to your work"

 

 

Spoiler

On the plus side I managed to unharden Leliana, which is particularly rewarding considering I knew nothing about her personal quest and its possible outcomes when I had my first conversations with her. Yesterday Cullen told me her spirits have been higher since Valence and his messengers are less frightened of her, while Cole says she "blooms on the bush" and knows how to sing again

Now I just hope she won't become Divine at the end of this playthrough. I supported Cassandra in every way, Vivienne agrees with me (so I guess she's out of the picture) and the gossipers in Val Royeaux keep saying that the Right Hand will become Divine soon. Does this even count?  

The gossip in Val Royaux is usually right, if my 2 first runs are any indication.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Yeah, there's always been chatter about the right hand becoming Divine in my playthroughs, and Cassandra has always become Divine afterwards.

[mrcrazyman]

Sigh, I'm finishing the game and I never got any of these dialogues. The only dialogue I can trigger when I go to the rookery is:

 

"At your service, my lady"

"Anything I should know?"

"I've nothing to report at the moment"

"I'll leave you to your work"

 

 

Well you don't actually talk to her. When I go up the stairs to her sometimes the research lady is telling a messenger stuff so I stop and listen to that. Then I go up the stairs to Leliana and sometimes there is a messenger and they banter together which is kind of funny since they usually aren't even facing each other and are far apart. The messengers aren't always there so you may have to leave and return a few times. For me Cullen's messenger is a female dwarf and Leliana's is a male human and I have only seen them with the advisors, I haven't seen them with the companions yet.

[LadyStoneheart]

The gossip in Val Royaux is usually right, if my 2 first runs are any indication.

 

Yeah, there's always been chatter about the right hand becoming Divine in my playthroughs, and Cassandra has always become Divine afterwards.

 

Phew! Good to know, thanks!

[Basement Cat]

I was skulk... wandering in the rookery and I came across this note. Leliana apparently plays favorites...

 

Spoiler

Saddler:

 

Baron Plucky! I don't care how many missions he's flown or how many lives his actions have saved, he is a holy terror. Nearly pecked out my eye the last time I tried to attach a message to him. All the dramatic flapping and squawking caused the sister to come over. You should've seen her look when she snatched the letter from me - if I had a weaker constitution, it might have killed me on the spot. I suppose she thought I was trying to murder her prized raven. And all she had to do was coo at him and the Baron hopped onto her shoulder, all sweetness, and nestled into her neck.

 

How does she do it? All the birds like her. Is it blood magic? It's blood magic, isn't it?

 

Weaver.

 

[TheLittleBird]

I was skulk... wandering in the rookery and I came across this note. Leliana apparently plays favorites...

 

Spoiler

Saddler:

 

Baron Plucky! I don't care how many missions he's flown or how many lives his actions have saved, he is a holy terror. Nearly pecked out my eye the last time I tried to attach a message to him. All the dramatic flapping and squawking caused the sister to come over. You should've seen her look when she snatched the letter from me - if I had a weaker constitution, it might have killed me on the spot. I suppose she thought I was trying to murder her prized raven. And all she had to do was coo at him and the Baron hopped onto her shoulder, all sweetness, and nestled into her neck.

 

How does she do it? All the birds like her. Is it blood magic? It's blood magic, isn't it?

 

Weaver.

 

 

Tsk... accusing Leliana of blood magic. 

[Basement Cat]

Leliana has a convo with a messenger but I have no idea who 'he' and 'she' are.

 

Leliana: *angry* I thought this obsession was over. Has he been drinking?

 

Messenger: I don't know. I'm just the messenger.

 

Leliana: Tell him to drop it. I am not going to discuss what she was like.

 

Ideas? I'm guessing 'she' is either the Warden or Marjolaine and someone is asking for dirty details.

 

 

Another one.

 

Leliana: Why not tell me in person?

 

Messenger: You make him nervous. *dramatic tone* Her eyes stare into my soul.

 

Leliana: He has a soul?

 

I have a sneaking suspicion...

 

Spoiler

I think it's Blackwall. He asks Sera for details about her sex life too. Leliana would despise him after a certain event.

 

Also this:

 

Messenger: *reading Josephine's note* Leliana, the interlude is for us to connect as colleagues and friends lest we lose sight of shared goals in the fog of petty differences. I am deeply disappointed.

 

Leliana: She used the word disappointed? Merde! (sh*t)

 

Messenger: The Lady Ambassador wields guilt like a knife.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Sounds like it might be related to Cullen's Amell/Surana infatuation. 

 

Thought he had more tact that to pry about it twice, though.

[Basement Cat]

Sounds like it might be related to Cullen's Amell/Surana infatuation. 

 

Thought he had more tact that to pry about it twice, though.

Read the edit...

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Hmm...can't really see that as Blackwall. He's too broody and secluded. 

 

He does ask Sera, yeah, but they're, like, total BFFs. He's way more open with her.

[Han Shot First]

 

Also this:

 

Messenger: *reading Josephine's note* Leliana, the interlude is for us to connect as colleagues and friends lest we lose sight of shared goals in the fog of petty differences. I am deeply disappointed.

 

Leliana: She used the word disappointed? Merde! (sh*t)

 

Messenger: The Lady Ambassador wields guilt like a knife.

 

Is 'merde' the only French (Orlesian) word Leliana has used in dialogue? 

 

I can't recall any others. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Is 'merde' the only French (Orlesian) word Leliana has used in dialogue? 

 

I can't recall any others. 

 

As far as I can remember, yeah. Wish she used more though. :3

[Basement Cat]

Is 'merde' the only French (Orlesian) word Leliana has used in dialogue? 

 

I can't recall any others. 

She uses 'petits fours' at the end of the game. And it sounds sexy.

[Basement Cat]

Hmm...can't really see that as Blackwall. He's too broody and secluded. 

 

He does ask Sera, yeah, but they're, like, total BFFs. He's way more open with her.

Iron Bull then? He drinks and he has a thing for redheads... and he wouldn't be shy about asking.

[mrcrazyman]

Another one.

 

Leliana: Why not tell me in person?

 

Messenger: You make him nervous. *dramatic tone* Her eyes stare into my soul.

 

Leliana: He has a soul?

 

I have a sneaking suspicion...

 

Spoiler

I think it's Blackwall. He asks Sera for details about her sex life too. Leliana would despise him after a certain event.

 

 

My guess is Cullen refusing the tea party

[Basement Cat]

My guess is Cullen refusing the tea party

The 'he has a soul' part makes me think it's not Cullen. He's not afraid of her for one, and she doesn't dislike him. She sounds nasty when she says that. It must be someone she really doesn't like. I think it might be Blackwall. He is afraid of her. He doesn't want to use any word but nice to describe her because he doesn't want to wake up with a dagger in his kidneys. 

 

And she would have reason to dislike him.

[TheLittleBird]

Iron Bull then? He drinks and he has a thing for redheads... and he wouldn't be shy about asking.

 

It's tricky... but I am getting an Iron Bull vibe. Just a little bit.

Blackwall is a possibility as well, though.