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[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

She has happiness; she has the Warden. That's the main thing. It's not yet time for her to retire.

 

I don't see the Warden relationship going well at all with Divine Leliana. They'd never have a lick of privacy ever again, be hounded by scandal at every turn, never be able to go anywhere, bask in some good ol' freedom, the road, adventurin'...no thanks. Being Left Hand was enough to evidently put some strain in their relationship, and on Leliana herself, I'd rather not see what being the Divine does. 

 

In any case, I can't prioritize Leliana's happiness over that of the setting as a whole. 

 

I prefer Cassandra for the role anyway, so win-win for me tbh. 

 

 

"The correct inquisitor

 

If my Inquisitor is 'wrong,' I don't want to be right. 

[Xilizhra]

I don't see the Warden relationship going well at all with Divine Leliana. They'd never have a lick of privacy ever again, be hounded by scandal at every turn, never be able to go anywhere, bask in some good ol' freedom, the road, adventurin'...no thanks. Being Left Hand was enough to evidently put some strain in their relationship, and on Leliana herself, I'd rather not see what being the Divine does. 

I think it'd help a lot that Leliana would no longer have to be a spymaster. Scandal is nothing, and traveling is... well, there's nothing that says that she can't go on vacation from time to time. In any case, my Warden would both be happy to help her in as much of her work as possible, and knows a thing or two about sacrifice.

 

 

I prefer Cassandra anyway, so win-win for me tbh. 

We were able to kill all the templars; that's an advantage that should never be thrown away.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I think it'd help a lot that Leliana would no longer have to be a spymaster.

 

Right, now she just has to balance the weight of all of Thedas on her shoulders though...

 

 

well, there's nothing that says that she can't go on vacation from time to time.

 

Compared to hell-yeah adventuring whenever they want, doing whatever they want with nothing or anybody stopping them. I've been waiting for their happy ending in the DA:O epilogue to be salvaged for years now, I'll be damned if I'm going to ruin it with some Divine duty now. It's what Leliana wanted since the very beginning of DA:I. I want her to get that wish tbh.

 

My Inquisitor romanced Solas too. Not gonna make two of my characters miserable in one game. 

[Xilizhra]

Right, now she just has to balance the weight of all of Thedas on her shoulders though...

 

 

 

Compared to hell-yeah adventuring whenever they want, doing whatever they want with nothing or anybody stopping them. I've been waiting for their happy ending in the DA:O epilogue to be salvaged for years now, I'll be damned if I'm going to ruin it with some Divine duty now. It's what Leliana wanted since the very beginning of DA:I. I want her to get that wish tbh.

 

My Inquisitor romanced Solas too. Not gonna make two of my characters miserable in one game. 

Is Leliana not the one who suggests the idea? It's not as though this decision is forced on her by the Inquisitor.

[Wulfram]

I think Leliana's problem in this game isn't the responsibility on her, it's doing things that are against her conscience. So being an idealistic Divine turning the Chantry into what (she believes) it's supposed to be would be good for her, because she'd feel she's making a difference by doing what is right.

At least as long as it works. If freeing the mages and dedicating the chantry to tolerance and charity turns everything to crap, that'd be... bad.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Is Leliana not the one who suggests the idea? It's not as though this decision is forced on her by the Inquisitor.

 

Sure. I still believe it won't be good for her, want it or not.

 

She wanted to drop everything and run off with the Warden too, and it's one or the other. I'll choose the drop everything one. 

[Xilizhra]

Sure. I still believe it won't be good for her, want it or not.

 

She wanted to drop everything and run off with the Warden too, and it's one or the other. I'll choose the drop everything one. 

She can do both.

And Cassandra is far too retrograde and domineering.

[jlb524]

I don't see the Warden relationship going well at all with Divine Leliana. They'd never have a lick of privacy ever again, be hounded by scandal at every turn, never be able to go anywhere, bask in some good ol' freedom, the road, adventurin'...no thanks. Being Left Hand was enough to evidently put some strain in their relationship, and on Leliana herself, I'd rather not see what being the Divine does. 

 

I think it depends on the Warden.  A Dalish Warden might not want to involve herself with Leliana's work as Divine and as such they might not see each other that much.  It could possibly strain the relationship.  It might not be a problem for all Dalish Wardens though, especially if they became Andrastian.

 

A Cousland Warden may want to help Leliana out as much as possible..even becoming her Right Hand.  A shady, stabby, sneak City elf Warden may want to take on a role similar to Left Hand (this might be interesting in light of Justinia revealing to Leliana in the note that she felt guilty for using her to do her dirty work...Leliana might worry she's doing the same with the Warden).

[Xilizhra]

I think it depends on the Warden.  A Dalish Warden might not want to involve herself with Leliana's work as Divine and as such they might not see each other that much.  It could possibly strain the relationship.  It might not be a problem for all Dalish Wardens though, especially if they became Andrastian.

 

A Cousland Warden may want to help Leliana out as much as possible..even becoming her Right Hand.  A shady, stabby, sneak City elf Warden may want to take on a role similar to Left Hand (this might be interesting in light of Justinia revealing to Leliana in the note that she felt guilty for using her to do her dirty work...Leliana might worry she's doing the same with the Warden).

My Warden is a mage. Who would probably assume a position similar to Vivienne's, maybe even being the first to make it official.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

She can do both.

No, not if she wants to get anything done. Running off while you're the most important woman in Thedas is gonna cause problems.

[Xilizhra]

Not if she wants to get anything done.

She can be with the Warden and still be Divine. That's what counts. I don't think that she'd be really happy without trying to do the most good in the world.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I think it depends on the Warden.  A Dalish Warden might not want to involve herself with Leliana's work as Divine and as such they might not see each other that much.  It could possibly strain the relationship.  It might not be a problem for all Dalish Wardens though, especially if they became Andrastian.

 

My Warden isn't Andrastian, (She's Dalish) she hates the public eye, values privacy, and wouldn't want to put Leliana in more danger than she's already in. It would most certainly strain my Warden's relationship with her. She would stay around for a while because she'd try to grit through it, but for all intents and purposes, I think that would mark the end of their happiness from that point forward.

 

Which is why I'm quite happy not making her Divine. 

 

 

I don't think that she'd be really happy without trying to do the most good in the world.

 

And I think she needs to give herself a break. She's done enough, I believe it's time to lay down her burdens like Justinia wanted for her, and get some healing time before her already weak psyche snaps again.

 

We're evidently not going to agree on this for many reasons, so I'm just going to agree to disagree. 

[jlb524]

My Warden is a mage. Who would probably assume a position similar to Vivienne's, maybe even being the first to make it official.

 

Mage Wardens who share Leliana's passion for reforming the Chantry and it's views on magic would probably be a really good fit.  They get to do something they really care about together.  I could see a Mage Warden acting as a liaison between the Divine and the new College of Enchanters.

[Xilizhra]

Mage Wardens who share Leliana's passion for reforming the Chantry and it's views on magic would probably be a really good fit.  They get to do something they really care about together.  I could see a Mage Warden acting as a liaison between the Divine and the new College of Enchanters.

Very much so. She could probably also be a liaison to the Grey Wardens, which certainly couldn't hurt.

[thesuperdarkone2]

It's far too early to assume that the relationship won't work if she becomes Divine. Don't forget how she says that she'll leave once the Inquisition has no need of her, not once Corypheus is beaten. Unless the Inquisition doesn't need her, I don't see her leaving soon. What if a time-skip occurs and Leliana still hasn't left the Inquisition if she isn't Divine? In that case, I'd rather her become Divine (which is always is in the games). Only dlc's and future games will tell us.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Don't forget how she says that she'll leave once the Inquisition has no need of her, not once Corypheus is beaten. Unless the Inquisition doesn't need her, I don't see her leaving soon. What if a time-skip occurs and Leliana still hasn't left the Inquisition if she isn't Divine?

 

Then one would assume the Warden hasn't returned yet. It's not like they're going to show up the moment Corypheus is dead. 

 

By the time she/he does return, she'll have had plenty of time to think about a replacement. If she hasn't, Warden can stay with the Inquisition until then. Better than the Grand Cathedral forever. 

[GenericEnemy]

It's far too early to assume that the relationship won't work if she becomes Divine. Don't forget how she says that she'll leave once the Inquisition has no need of her, not once Corypheus is beaten. Unless the Inquisition doesn't need her, I don't see her leaving soon. What if a time-skip occurs and Leliana still hasn't left the Inquisition if she isn't Divine? In that case, I'd rather her become Divine (which is always is in the games). Only dlc's and future games will tell us.

 

She's going to be with the Inquisition for a while more either way, we need her as spymaster for DLCs. 

 

And they've already said there's not going to be a big separate expansion so the chances of a time skip at any point in Inquisition's cycle are pretty slim. 

 

And I don't see how being Divine is preferable in that situation. She actually can leave Inquisition, not the Chantry. Myself I would take her being able to drop it all some time in the future over her being stuck in the Chantry for life. 

[CosmicalAdventure]

Hi all, I am interested in butting in on the discussion concerning relationship between Leliana/The Warden.

 

 

I am very curious as to what would happen/how Bioware would handle it if Leliana is elected as the Divine, but her relationship with the Warden is not exactly "legal" i.e. a mistress to the Queen/Prince-consort of Ferelden. I mean, the fact that she's a mistress is publicly known in Orlais, and considering her liberal approach to chastity, perhaps she would still remain with her lover but that's going to be.. a very messed up World State, and I am looking forward how Bioware would handle this... unusual case of extramarital affair.

 

Regardless of the future outcomes, I am hoping that she would still be together with her love, because she made it pretty clear that she wouldn't lose him/her again. 

[wright1978]

I don't see any reason Leliana becoming divine would cause any issue with her romance with my various warden. Personally i have a preference for hardened Leliana anyway and i don't see her tolerating anything standing in the way of them continuing their relationship. She'll just change the rules once she's secured herself in the role. Thing i'm toying with is whether any of my wardens would be left/right hands or just unofficially watching her back.

Leliana was mistress to one of my prince-consorts, so in that case they have experience of making it work despite affairs of state.

 

I suppose other people's wardens may have priorities or views that make them incompatible with romancing Leliana as Divine.

[TheLittleBird]

I've never supported the option of making Leliana Divine. I can't honestly believe it'd be good for her. Her whole "I could be Divine"-moment seems a bit like it's in the spur of the moment, like Leliana just had a sudden idea while praying and is excited about it... without really thinking things through.

I know what happens according to the Epilogue when she does become Divine, though (both hardened and softened) that doesn't really matter to me.

 

Nah, Leli, you go and be with your Warden lover again. 

She's had enough on her plate these past few years.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Nah, Leli, you go and be with your Warden lover again. 

 

She's had enough on her plate these past few years.

 

^ Dis. 

 

Y'all can have your Divine Leliana, my Warden and her will be sipping martinis on some beach in Antiva or something. Tackling the world head on, getting up to all kinds of nonsense, continuing what was postponed when she became Left Hand. Wouldn't have it any other way.

 

"Were you two happy together in the years after the Blight?"

"Happier than you could imagine."

 

Now it's part two of that baby. Aww yiss. 

[CosmicalAdventure]

I don't see any reason Leliana becoming divine would cause any issue with her romance with my various warden. Personally i have a preference for hardened Leliana anyway and i don't see her tolerating anything standing in the way of them continuing their relationship. She'll just change the rules once she's secured herself in the role. Thing i'm toying with is whether any of my wardens would be left/right hands or just unofficially watching her back.

Leliana was mistress to one of my prince-consorts, so in that case they have experience of making it work despite affairs of state.

 

I suppose other people's wardens may have priorities or views that make them incompatible with romancing Leliana as Divine

 

Perhaps I am overanalyzing it but I think a Divine who also happens to be a mistress of a state figurehead would become.. pretty much a huge scandal. Of course I am also aware that a Divine who is sleeping with a Dalish/Mage on the side is controversial enough already, but having an affair with a leader of a nation is a twist that I am really curious about. Hopefully she could make the relationship work with him/her, in the end though. The Warden would become such a powerful figure on Southern Thedas, that's for sure

 

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Oh my post isn't intended as a jab to anyone who do not choose her as the Divine - personally I don't choose her myself - but making her Divine would complicate the relationship between the Warden and her, and I am looking forward to how things would develop from there.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

but making her Divine would complicate the relationship between the Warden and her, and I am looking forward to how things would develop from there.

 

Oh, the idea intrigues me too, no doubt - I'll YouTube any future references to it, though I kind of doubt there are going to be any either way. We're going north next, not much room for it. I feel like Leliana's story is pretty much done either way. 

 

It's an interesting thing to think about, but nah, never doing it myself. The thought of my Warden returning from her travels and years of separation only to get her heart broken doesn't sit particularly well with me, among other things I mentioned earlier. 

[CosmicalAdventure]

Oh, the idea intrigues me too, no doubt - I'll YouTube any future references to it, though I kind of doubt there are going to be any either way. We're going north next, not much room for it. I feel like Leliana's story is pretty much done either way. 

 

It's an interesting thing to think about, but nah, never doing it myself. The thought of my Warden returning from her travels and years of separation only to get her heart broken doesn't sit particularly well with me, among other things I mentioned earlier. 

 

Ah yes, that's true, but she's one of the most popular characters in DA franchise, and although I also doubt she would affect future storyline in any signifcant way, I am hoping that she would get referenced in the future media even though perhaps she would only get a subtle one. 

 

I just love experimenting with all the possible scenario - those "what if" - even though it might be far from what I considered as my canon world state (e.g. I don't think my Warden would love to be a Prince-consort). Those alternate storylines might be discomfiting, but they are made simply to satiate my curiousity. 

[Miss Quisitor]

I can't imagine a Dragon Age game without Leliana in it.