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[jlb524]

My Warden thinks she's dying and doesn't expect to live for more than 2-3 years. Can't see her telling Leliana to refuse the Divine position.

[Xilizhra]

So, not to change the subject, but I saw a Dragon Age/Harry Potter thing on tumblr earlier (I probably should've grabbed a link but didn't even think of it) and it got me thinking, which Hogwarts House do you all think Leliana would be in? Hufflepuff? Slytherin? ..Ravenclaw? Or am I just a nerd that needs to go away? Could see an arguement for each (loyal and hard working, cunning, knowledge, respectively); Gryffindor's the only one I don't really see but I hadn't actually given it any thought till now.

 

On topic, I agree that even without an army, Divine Leliana would still hold a substantial amount of power. She'd still be a strong political figure, she'd have the Inquisition's support (which may include the Templars), the organised mages would likely back her if required and if push came to shove, I believe she'd be able to rally an army under her banner from both Orlais and Ferelden. We don't know about the other countries, true, but in such a religious world, the people's loyalty to the Chantry isn't something to sneeze at.

Ravenclaw. She's not ambitious enough for Slytherin, not chivalrous enough for Gryffindor, and lives primarily based on her mind.

 

I've worked this out for a few other characters as well!

 

Josephine: Hufflepuff.

Cullen: Gryffindor.

Cassandra: Gryffindor.

Varric: Hufflepuff.

Solas: Unknown, given the haziness of his true background and goals.

Sera: Tough choice, but I'll err towards Gryffindor.
Vivienne: Slytherin.

Blackwall: Gryffindor.

Iron Bull: The alien aspects of qunari culture might skew him away from any point that could be well-represented here.

Dorian: Tricky, and could honestly go any way. Maybe leaning a bit toward Slytherin, or possibly Ravenclaw.

Cole: If any could be considered applicable, Hufflepuff.

[Uccio]

Or, he could go and talk to her, and try to understand why she did what she did. Rather than be like a child throwing a tantrum.

 

Noo, it would be better that way. Since she already breaks up with him by coming divine. First she was like "oo, we will be together soon, nothing will tear us apart ever again". Then "sorry!".  That should have required a serious trolol face right there.

[Fiery Phoenix]

My Warden thinks she's dying and doesn't expect to live for more than 2-3 years. Can't see her telling Leliana to refuse the Divine position.

I think it's just that first reaction that will tend to be a refusal, since I can't imagine the Warden ever expected Leli to end up in a position of such significance.

 

My Dalish certainly didn't, but then again she was always overprotective of Leli.

[vertigomez]

Ravenclaw. She's not ambitious enough for Slytherin, not chivalrous enough for Gryffindor, and lives primarily based on her mind.
 
I've worked this out for a few other characters as well!
 
Josephine: Hufflepuff.
Cullen: Gryffindor.
Cassandra: Gryffindor.
Varric: Hufflepuff.
Solas: Unknown, given the haziness of his true background and goals.
Sera: Tough choice, but I'll err towards Gryffindor.
Vivienne: Slytherin.
Blackwall: Gryffindor.
Iron Bull: The alien aspects of qunari culture might skew him away from any point that could be well-represented here.
Dorian: Tricky, and could honestly go any way. Maybe leaning a bit toward Slytherin, or possibly Ravenclaw.
Cole: If any could be considered applicable, Hufflepuff.

These are spot-on! I'd peg Solas as either Slytherin or Ravenclaw (hard to say, for.. obvious reasons ), and Bull as Ravenclaw. Behind all that bluster and schmoop I'd say his defining trait is his intelligence.

Cole is the Huffliestpuff of Hufflepuffs.

[GenericEnemy]

Noo, it would be better that way. Since she already breaks up with him by coming divine. First she was like "oo, we will be together soon, nothing will tear us apart ever again". Then "sorry!".  That should have required a serious trolol face right there.

You do realise she doesn't break up with the Warden if she becomes Divine, yes? We've been told as much.

[Uccio]

You do realise she doesn't break up with the Warden if she becomes Divine, yes? We've been told as much.

 

Well I was under the impression that divine is practically the same as pope. No spouses. You have any info in this?

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

No way in hell my Warden would encourage Leliana to become Divine. Her clan is all dead, Wardens have gone head over heels. Friends have scattered to the winds, her dog is probably dead by now as well. Way she'd see it, she'd be losing Leliana too. Her continued relationship would bring nothing but trouble Leliana's way, she would probably force herself to end it.

Luckily she never had to. Leliana didn't become Divine. Now the two of them can get a much needed extended vacation without any Divine nonsense getting in the way. Thank the Maker for that.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Well I was under the impression that divine is practically the same as pope. No spouses. You have any info in this?

Well, she's not married to the Warden. That, and as Divine, it has been stated by the writers that she has the ability to override or change the 'rules' in terms of what the position means for her relationship with the Warden.

[GenericEnemy]

Well I was under the impression that divine is practically the same as pope. No spouses. You have any info in this?

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Patrick Weekes and Sheryl Chee said she changes the rules.

[Han Shot First]

I wouldn't have Leliana as my canon Divine just because I think she's by far the weakest candidate of the three. She might be one of my favorite characters in the series, but I think she's far too radical. Radical change never occurs without a fair amount of chaos and bloodshed, so without plot armor I see her as having the rockiest and most dangerous tenure as Divine. Of the three I think she'd also be the most likely to meet a violent end herself.

 

Cassandra is a better choice IMO, and a safer one.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

To be honest I still wish this entire choice just didn't exist in the first place. It just feels so ridiculously forced, like they just went down a checklist of their female Andrastian characters and female somewhat-Andrastian characters and went "Alright, anyone can become Divine now! Doesn't matter if none of them are even remotely fitting for the role, let's shoehorn them in anyway. Mother Gisselle? That would make far too much sense, no let's go with these three. Oh, and let's make the whole system a pain in the arse that'll take them months to figure out how it even works. Alright? Done."

[Xilizhra]

To be honest I still wish this entire choice just didn't exist in the first place. It just feels so ridiculously forced, like they just went down a checklist of their female Andrastian characters and went "Alright, anyone can become Divine now! Doesn't matter if they're not even remotely fitting for the role, let's shoehorn them in anyway. Mother Gisselle? That would make far too much sense, no let's go with these three. Oh, and let's make the whole system a pain in the arse that'll take them months to figure out how it even works. Alright? Done."

Mother Giselle's a nobody. The other three candidates are at least important in their own right.

[Han Shot First]

To be honest I still wish this entire choice just didn't exist in the first place. It just feels so ridiculously forced, like they just went down a checklist of their female Andrastian characters and went "Alright, anyone can become Divine now! Doesn't matter if they're not even remotely fitting for the role, let's shoehorn them in anyway. Mother Gisselle? That would make far too much sense, no let's go with these three. Oh, and let's make the whole system a pain in the arse that'll take them months to figure out how it even works. Alright? Done."

 

I sort of agree. I found all three choices a bit odd initially, considering none of them is a priest. Vivienne, while Andrastian, also doesn't seem particularly pious. She's more political than religious. And Leliana has some religious beliefs that could be viewed as heretical by the mainstream. Her becoming Divine is almost like Martin Luther being named Pope of Rome.

[Uccio]

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Patrick Weekes and Sheryl Chee said she changes the rules.

 

Since it doesn´t appear on the end sliders it never happened. That is just head canon.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Mother Giselle's a nobody. The other three candidates are at least important in their own right.

Justinia was a nobody too, then.

[GenericEnemy]

Since it doesn´t appear on the end sliders it never happened. That is just head canon.

Headcanon by one of the lead writers and Leliana's own writer.

Right.

[wright1978]

Mother Giselle's a nobody. The other three candidates are at least important in their own right.

 

Yep she's a nobody and given the centralness of the chantry in the story, I certainly wouldn't have been impressed if inquisition had no sway whatsoever and Giselle was forced upon the player. I think the approach of Inquisitor having influence through decisions was very good way to go too.

[Uccio]

Headcanon by one of the lead writers and Leliana's own writer.

Right.

 

 

Yep, sad but true.  

 

They can have all kinds of wild head canons but since none of them manifest in the game it is just that. 

[Xilizhra]

Yep, sad but true.  

 

They can have all kinds of wild head canons but since none of them manifest in the game it is just that. 

Why does it matter? Certainly the game never says that Leliana and the Warden can't be together.

[CrimsonN7]

Mother Giselle's a nobody. The other three candidates are at least important in their own right.

 

Giselle would have been an awful choice.

[Uccio]

Why does it matter? Certainly the game never says that Leliana and the Warden can't be together.

 

 

Not much really. And I don´t actually know that, didn´t find anything on the dragonwiki. I thought the chastity vow templars pledge (thought not all I understood) would be all over the divine.

It just annoyed me as I had one worldstate where she and my Warden were a pair and she kept harping about how she had to serve the justinia and how her love was out to find cure for them so they can be together. And then she turned around and went all pope on him.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Giselle would have been an awful choice.

I'd take her over our current three choices. Particularly when one sweeps the Warden under the rug like it does.

[CrimsonN7]

I'd take her over our current three choices. Particularly when one sweeps the Warden under the rug like it does.

 

Lels will bend the rules to suit her personal needs I'm sure of it. It's common knowledge she's the HoF paramour so with her making as many radical changes as it is I don't think many will bat an eye towards her keeping her lover close.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Based on the conversations in Haven, I'd have considered mother Giselle a good choice.

 

Then there is that whole turn when she goes to Skyhold... and at that point, she became very "meh" to me. I'm okay with characters having layers and all, but I've never been a fan of the black/white binary approach that seems to be prevalent in the last couple of DA games.

 

Leliana's sudden desire to be Divine during the final stages of the game felt really out of place and out of left field, to me.