I have to say, I wish there was dialogue to be much more direct and aggressive with Leliana.
Good people, I can respect, obviously.
Evil people I can respect, though of course, for better or worse, they're far less common than fiction would imply.
But there are few things more contemptable than someone who whimpers "I want to be a good person, but it's so haaaaaarrrrrrrd in this mean, mean, world! I can't afford morals!"
Which is squarely where Leliana falls.
Totally not a thought that crossed my mind too when I saw it. Nope, definitely not.
Yeah I totally thought that too.
may or may not be why I chose it :S
Then they can go into the cottage and sit by the fire to 'warm up' Yusssss!
Then cuddles. With warm, fuzzy blankets. By the lake, under the stars. Reciting stories about them like the old days. ;_;
leliana/warden happy ending 2.0 is onnnn aww yiss
It's been done before, and the Warden seems to have some leads given they've been gone this long and have a destination. I'd be really surprised if the whole thing ends up as a ruse and the Warden fails at this point.
Have a little faith in her. Leliana does.
Well, I do doubt BW would bring up the cure only to have the Warden fail at finding it. But, I'm assuming my Warden isn't 100% sure she'll find one at this time in the story so that would color her perspective on stuff.
So reading the last couple of pages about how different Wardens might react differently to the potential Divine Victoria thing made me curious: how did all you with non-Andrastian Wardens see their relationship with Leliana? Brosca/Aeducan/Mahariel/etc x Leliana has always been interesting to me because it probably needs a bit more thinking on with the obvious hurdles there. My Surana was a bit of an Andrastian, but not especailly devout by any definition of the term.
My Surana wasn't really Andrastian, or at least was extremely nonreligious. But she found a lot to admire in Leliana's attitude and philosophy, and considered Leliana to be her moral rock, to prevent her from falling into "mwahaha, UNLIMITED POWER!!!" territory. Leliana being Divine would be... unusual, but also something that she'd be perfectly happy to accept; Leliana would be able to succeed where she herself failed in trying to free the Circle, and it would be very good work overall.
So reading the last couple of pages about how different Wardens might react differently to the potential Divine Victoria thing made me curious: how did all you with non-Andrastian Wardens see their relationship with Leliana? Brosca/Aeducan/Mahariel/etc x Leliana has always been interesting to me because it probably needs a bit more thinking on with the obvious hurdles there. My Surana was a bit of an Andrastian, but not especailly devout by any definition of the term.
There's a couple points here, but the biggest is that my own Mahariel has always striven for better relations between the Chantry and the Dalish, so in a way, making her girlfriend Divine is a no-brainer. In fact, now that you mention it, I wish she could have been there when Leliana was decided Divine so I could see her reaction.
So reading the last couple of pages about how different Wardens might react differently to the potential Divine Victoria thing made me curious: how did all you with non-Andrastian Wardens see their relationship with Leliana? Brosca/Aeducan/Mahariel/etc x Leliana has always been interesting to me because it probably needs a bit more thinking on with the obvious hurdles there. My Surana was a bit of an Andrastian, but not especailly devout by any definition of the term.
Does elfroot make you grow pointy ears?
Well, I do doubt BW would bring up the cure only to have the Warden fail at finding it. But, I'm assuming my Warden isn't 100% sure she'll find one at this time in the story so that would color her perspective on stuff.
I think the hypothetical Cure will come into play when we explore Weisshaupt. Inquisition has been alluding to the idea that there's a civil war going on there. Why that is remains the question, but we'll certainly see the Wardens as an organization go through change when we do explore the conflict.
Considering the Cure and
I'd say the Wardens will come through whatever is going on as a better organization, and will be ready when the next Blight comes. Considering Inquisition's focus on "leading an organization", perhaps we'll have some part in that aswell. 
Either that or we'll end up leading them to complete destruction 
I'm hoping this is where the exile/ally choice in DAI comes in; could be sort of like the Geth/Quarian conflict in ME3 where whichever we did here (among other things) contributes largely to what happens to the Wardens as an Order.
Then they can go into the cottage and sit by the fire to 'warm up' Yusssss!
Then cuddles. With warm, fuzzy blankets. By the lake, under the stars. Reciting stories about them like the old days. ;_;
leliana/warden happy ending 2.0 is onnnn aww yiss
You two, stahhpp it.
You're killing me with diabetes.
You two, stahhpp it.
You're killing me with diabetes.
Fine. We'll add some spice!
I think the hypothetical Cure will come into play when we explore Weisshaupt. Inquisition has been alluding to the idea that there's a civil war going on there. Why that is remains the question, but we'll certainly see the Wardens as an organization go through change when we do explore the conflict.
Considering the Cure and
Spoiler
I'd say the Wardens will come through whatever is going on as a better organization, and will be ready when the next Blight comes. Considering Inquisition's focus on "leading an organization", perhaps we'll have some part in that aswell.
I really wish we get to explore Weisshaupt in future Inquisition DLC. Where we could meet our Warden, or even play as them in search for the Cure. Maybe the Warden DLC could take place the same time as Inquisition, the Breach and the Cure storylines can run parallel to each other. With the Awakening companions making a return.
And for those whose Warden is dead, we always have the Orlesian Commander from Awakening.
What do you guys think about playing as the Warden again? Yay or nay?
You two, stahhpp it.
You're killing me with diabetes.
I think the hypothetical Cure will come into play when we explore Weisshaupt. Inquisition has been alluding to the idea that there's a civil war going on there. Why that is remains the question, but we'll certainly see the Wardens as an organization go through change when we do explore the conflict.
Considering the Cure and
Spoiler
I'd say the Wardens will come through whatever is going on as a better organization, and will be ready when the next Blight comes. Considering Inquisition's focus on "leading an organization", perhaps we'll have some part in that aswell.
What do you guys think about playing as the Warden again? Yay or nay?
Considering that the Warden can be dead, definitely a no-go. And I really hope the Calling can't be cured, because that's a big part of the appeal of the Grey Wardens for me. That sort of "power" should come with a price. We usually get handed far too much far too easily and without any consequences, so it was very refreshing change of pace to learn what being a Warden entails.
What a great discussion!
My Brosca's bond with Leliana was based first and foremost on their mutual desire to be better people... he understood what it meant to have blood on your hands, to want forgiveness and acceptance and love. So, regardless of what spurred that change (Leliana's faith in the Maker, Duncan's faith in the Warden, etc.), that to me is what it all goes back to.
In the end, he just wants her to feel happy and whole, though I imagine he's more on the agnostic side than anything else. Lawd knows the Stone never did **** for him.
I still think it's hilarious that the Divine's dating a Paragon. Fehehehe.
Considering that the Warden can be dead, definitely a no-go.
And I really hope the Calling can't be cured, because that's a big part of the appeal of the Grey Wardens for me. That sort of "power" should come with a price. We usually get handed far too much far too easily and without any consequences, so it was very refreshing change of pace to learn what being a Warden entails.
Considering that the Warden can be dead, definitely a no-go. And I really hope the Calling can't be cured, because that's a big part of the appeal of the Grey Wardens for me. That sort of "power" should come with a price. We usually get handed far too much far too easily and without any consequences, so it was very refreshing change of pace to learn what being a Warden entails.
I personally hope the cure works out but it shouldn't be consequence free.
What if the absolutely only cure would be some level 9000 ultra mega overkill spell that not only cures your Warden, but every single Warden in the world as well, while also rendering the Joining useless for some magical reason that I haven't fully thought out yet.
On one hand, you'd ideally get decades more snu-snu with whomever your Warden has the hots for.
On the other, if there's ever another Blight, the entire world is f***ed.
EDIT: I should've clarified that I mean completely erasing their Archdemon killing mojo, not just the compulsion to go die in the Deep Roads after a while.
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What if the absolutely only cure would be some level 9000 ultra mega overkill spell that not only cures your Warden, but every single Warden in the world as well, while also rendering the Joining useless for some magical reason that I haven't fully thought out yet.
On one hand, you'd ideally get decades more snu-snu with whomever your Warden has the hots for.
On the other, if there's ever another Blight, the entire world is f***ed.
And then it turns out you needed the Architect to be alive and Avernus to be working for you ethically or not in order to get that possibility.
What if the absolutely only cure would be some level 9000 ultra mega overkill spell that not only cures your Warden, but every single Warden in the world as well, while also rendering the Joining useless for some magical reason that I haven't fully thought out yet.
On one hand, you'd ideally get decades more snu-snu with whomever your Warden has the hots for.
On the other, if there's ever another Blight, the entire world is f***ed.
Considering that the Warden can be dead, definitely a no-go. And I really hope the Calling can't be cured, because that's a big part of the appeal of the Grey Wardens for me. That sort of "power" should come with a price. We usually get handed far too much far too easily and without any consequences, so it was very refreshing change of pace to learn what being a Warden entails.
This. I feel it's a bit too convenient otherwise, but that's the writers' call(ing) (aha).
They can think up something alternate for those with dead Wardens. Whether the Warden is involved or not, there's a lot of stuff going on with the Wardens that would make for a good DLC story regardless. I'm not really fond of the notion that living Wardens should be left in the dark until the end of time because some people killed their's. What they're doing is way too big for that.
Meh. I hope my Warden just washes her hands of the whole Calling thing tbh.
As someone that killed their favourite "canon" Warden, I agree. They should have either found a better excuse to brush the Warden to the side, or they should address it and there's no reason not to address it with so much else going on. We'd need to recreate our character again anyway, it wouldn't be much trouble even with US if they could find a way to work it in to begin with. I just hope we get to play as the Warden for a bit, rather than doing what they did with Hawke. Too many variables for the Warden.
As for the actual cure...I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about that. For the HoF? Sure. For all Wardens? I'd rather not go there, but it's a double standard sort of thing. Either way, I think I'd rather like a high price to pay for that freedom - something like the Dark Ritual (how it was intended to seem in DAO, anyway) or Well of Sorrows, perhaps, or something a bit...morally grey.
It's the closest they'll get to pleasing the people that don't want the cure and everyone else getting to have their Antivan vacations with retired Spymasters or Kings
Edit: Ninja'd by Snook and a pun 
That'd be a little bit...too much, I think. There'd be no conceivable reason any Warden who's a decent person would choose the cure.
I'd say it would have to be a more personal consequence. Like...I don't know. Fiona got cured without any real dire consequence, I'm not really sure why the Warden would have to.
...with all the talk of Solas headed west, and the creepy 'THE CALLING THE CALLING..." thing in the Well of Sorrows, I guess it could always just be 'Pledge yourself to another elven god and get cured. For real.' That's always sketchy.
I agree that if we're hardcore RPing the Warden that it would be a hard thing to justify. But how many people do you think would just do it anyway to get their happily ever after for their character?
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