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[Han Shot First]

In one respect the Inquisitor asking Leliana if she was Justinia's lover is unintentionally hilarious, considering Justinia is a shriveled old prune. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

"Okay, I know she just died and you're sad and all, but I have to ask. Was she, like, a huge cradle robber or something tho?"

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

In one respect the Inquisitor asking Leliana if she was Justinia's lover is unintentionally hilarious, considering Justinia is a shriveled old prune. 

 

Maybe the inquisitor had heard rumors that all the women in the chantry did all sorts of naughty things behind closed doors and wanted to see if they were true lol.

[Basement Cat]

Another possible interpretation to that line: love is simple and common. Her relationship with Justinia is complex, sure, but could there be a bit of resentment mixed in with the gratitude? Yes, Justinia saved her, but she also used her. Leliana is aware of that and the outcomes of her personal quest can show her letting go of the resentment, either by forgiving Justinia or embracing her ruthless side.

[Han Shot First]

Leliana tends to get taken advantage of by people she loves. First Marjolaine, then Justinia. Although with Justinia I don't it is quite as nefarious as what Marjolaine did. Justinia clearly cared about Leliana, while I'm not sure the same was ever true for Marjolaine. Marjolaine was just manipulative, and might have been a sociopath. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Another possible interpretation to that line: love is simple and common. Her relationship with Justinia is complex, sure, but could there be a bit of resentment mixed in with the gratitude? Yes, Justinia saved her, but she also used her. Leliana is aware of that and the outcomes of her personal quest can show her letting go of the resentment, either by forgiving Justinia or embracing her ruthless side.

That's pretty close to my personal interpretation. She spends the whole of Inquisition dwelling over Justinia and what might have been had she not been killed. In some sense, you can certainly view hardening her as way of her reacting to the reality of the situation by embracing her ruthless side. Not exactly my preferred version of Leliana, but it does make sense given the circumstances.

[Xilizhra]

In one respect the Inquisitor asking Leliana if she was Justinia's lover is unintentionally hilarious, considering Justinia is a shriveled old prune. 

Well, Marjolaine did boink her several years back...

 

 

Another possible interpretation to that line: love is simple and common. Her relationship with Justinia is complex, sure, but could there be a bit of resentment mixed in with the gratitude? Yes, Justinia saved her, but she also used her. Leliana is aware of that and the outcomes of her personal quest can show her letting go of the resentment, either by forgiving Justinia or embracing her ruthless side.

I almost wish she'd repudiated Justinia, somehow. In large part because I really never liked Justinia much.

[Han Shot First]

 

I almost wish she'd repudiated Justinia, somehow. In large part because I really never liked Justinia much.

 

That would have been out of character for Leliana however, even if she didn't have a personal connection to Justinia. Leliana is a devout Andrastian.

[Wulfram]

In one respect the Inquisitor asking Leliana if she was Justinia's lover is unintentionally hilarious, considering Justinia is a shriveled old prune.

She's aged a lot since Leliana's song, though I guess it has been 12 years.

[Br3admax]

 

That would have been out of character for Leliana however, even if she didn't have a personal connection to Justinia. Leliana is a devout Andrastian.

Not to mention that Leliana and Justinia sound like two peas in a pod. 

[Xilizhra]

That would have been out of character for Leliana however, even if she didn't have a personal connection to Justinia. Leliana is a devout Andrastian.

She's... devout, but also a heretic, rejecting one of the most basic doctrines of the Chantry: that the Maker has abandoned the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Not to mention that Leliana and Justinia sound like two peas in a pod. 

 

I think that Justinia and Cassandra are closer on the political spectrum. Leliana's more radical.

[N7_Heartfire]

I never really payed attention to the 'Love is simple, love is common' line, since she is still grieving for Justinia at that time, and the Quizzy picked the worst possible moment to ask her about it. To be honest, I don't think even Leliana knew what she meant by those words at the moment, her anger got hold of her more than anything else and she seemed entirely focused on proving to Quizzy they were wrong one way or another, without taking to account what she was actually saying...

 

As to why Leliana and Cassandra weren't at the Conclave, you find out through party banter between Cass and Viv that they intended to be there, but a certain dwarf who wasn't willing to talk kept them at Kirkwall. Though it would be very interesting to find out what kind of nonsense they got into while traveling to Haven. :3 Maybe through a comic like the Alistair trilogy.

[Br3admax]

She's... devout, but also a heretic, rejecting one of the most basic doctrines of the Chantry: that the Maker has abandoned the world.

 

 

I think that Justinia and Cassandra are closer on the political spectrum. Leliana's more radical.

 

There's nothing that shows that, though. If anything, it's been shown that Cassandra was the one that didn't actually know the Divine. 

[Xilizhra]

There's nothing that shows that, though. If anything, it's been shown that Cassandra was the one that didn't actually know the Divine. 

Really? All of Justinia's actions seem to display that she wanted to return the Circles and all, just with some reforms passed. There's also no indication that Justinia is also a heretic.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Really? All of Justinia's actions seem to display that she wanted to return the Circles and all, just with some reforms passed. There's also no indication that Justinia is also a heretic.

Well Leliana did know Justinia the longest so she'd likely know her better than Cass.

[Han Shot First]

She's... devout, but also a heretic, rejecting one of the most basic doctrines of the Chantry: that the Maker has abandoned the world.

 

 

 

Leliana does have radical views, but she's still a devout Andrastian who is loyal to the Chantry. She is reformer, not someone who wants to tear it down or give it the middle finger. To compare her to real world people, she's more Pope Francis than Richard Dawkins.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I never really played attention to the 'Love is simple, love is common' line, since she is still grieving for Justinia at that time, and the Quizzy picked the worst possible moment to ask her about it. To be honest, I don't think even Leliana knew what she meant by those words at the moment, her anger got hold of her more than anything else and she seemed entirely focused on proving to Quizzy they were wrong one way or another, without taking to account what she was actually saying...

 

That's how I've started to look at it, yeah. She's kind of prickly about pretty much everything you ask her at that point, what she's saying probably isn't entirely what she feels. 

 

On that note, I've always liked to have the dialogue about the Warden as the last thing I ask her in the Haven batch of dialogues, because it seems to leave her a bit happier somehow. If you end the conversation after she gushes about the HoF, she has that really soft toned, longing-sounding "You know where I am..." before it ends, but otherwise it seems to just abruptly cut off. Don't know if it's related to it at all, but the only time she seems to end her conversations that way for me is after she talks about the Warden. :S

[erikdlan]

I never really played attention to the 'Love is simple, love is common' line, since she is still grieving for Justinia at that time, and the Quizzy picked the worst possible moment to ask her about it. To be honest, I don't think even Leliana knew what she meant by those words at the moment, her anger got hold of her more than anything else and she seemed entirely focused on proving to Quizzy they were wrong one way or another, without taking to account what she was actually saying...
 
As to why Leliana and Cassandra weren't at the Conclave, you find out through party banter between Cass and Viv that they intended to be there, but a certain dwarf who wasn't willing to talk kept them at Kirkwall. Though it would be very interesting to find out what kind of nonsense they got into while traveling to Haven. :3 Maybe through a comic like the Alistair trilogy.

That was were I heard Cass explaining why they weren't at the Conclave! A banter with Vivian!
A comic with the Adventures of the Hands? Yes, please.

[Xilizhra]

Leliana does have radical views, but she's still a devout Andrastian who is loyal to the Chantry. She is reformer, not someone who wants to tear it down or give it the middle finger. To compare her to real world people, she's more Pope Francis than Richard Dawkins.

I'd compare her to Martin Luther, personally.

[Basement Cat]

I'd compare her to Martin Luther, personally.

That's not a bad comparison. Leliana disagrees with the doctrine and rituals, but not with the essentials: belief in a Maker who created the world.

[AWTEW]

Was anyone else annoyed by Leliana's "Love is common. Love is simple." line?

It annoyed me, But I took it more as her reacting to the i quisitors insensitivity.

[TheLittleBird]

In one respect the Inquisitor asking Leliana if she was Justinia's lover is unintentionally hilarious, considering Justinia is a shriveled old prune. 

 

I kind of feel bad for laughing when I first saw Justinia's face and being like: "Yeah no way Leliana was her lover." :/

[Xilizhra]

I kind of feel bad for laughing when I first saw Justinia's face and being like: "Yeah no way Leliana was her lover." :/

To be fair, she didn't look so bad in Leliana's Song.

[AresKeith]

To be fair, she didn't look so bad in Leliana's Song.

 

10 years and a stressful job change people

 

*looks at past presidents*

[N7_Heartfire]

Comparing Leliana's appearance in Origins and Inquisition, I feel the designers went for a mix between her Origins/DA2 appearance and her face in the CGI trailer (putting a bigger emphasis on the latter).

If you look closely at her CGI model and Inquisition one, you'll notice she more or less looks the same, except in Inquisition she looks like she's lost quite a bit of weight. (+ the freckles :3)

Don't get me the wrong way, but I like how Leliana looks sort of skinnier and tired in Inquisition and Morrigan looks much more prettier and fresh than in Origins. It sort of shows which one of them has had to deal with more stress and trauma in the last decade.

 

I've never been one for the flawless female look (which is why I love Cassandra and Leliana's appearance in DAI) and I think the fact Leliana looks so gaunt and tired in Inquisition and not 100% pretty is a good way to show that her past hasn't affected her only emotionally but physically as well.