My heartbeat speeds at the very notion.
I'm not getting my hopes up or anything, but that fantasy might sustain me for some time.
I'm wary of comparing the two - they're two very different, very beautiful animals. 
Same here. Though I believe a trilogy remaster may be very likely. Remasters are all the rage these days, plus EA loves a good cash cow. I love ME as much as Dragon Age, though you'd never think it.
I hope you're right. I've never claimed to have my finger on the pulse of the gaming market...I really don't have a very good comprehension of the industry.
I would think that now that Xbox one is a thing, that they should remaster some 360 game and release them for the new console, but I have no idea whether that makes sense in the larger scheme of things.
I can definitely see Leliana's mask having some bird motifs. It's hard to wear a mask with a beak without looking 100% plague doctor though, so I'd say something that's more elegant yet slightly sinister looking with black feathers adorning it and the like. Cause ravens. Nightingales don't look quite as cool. :S
Yeah, a plague doctor look would be terrible.
I found a venetian mask that would be perfect for Leliana. Silver and blue with some feathers:
Random thought: Some nightingales have pretty blue bellies or heads.
I'd like to draw a mask for Leliana in pastel blue with delicate silver engraving.
The Warden's mask would probably be something to do with Griffons.
I think my Warden would have a mask with some Halla vibes, tbh. I wonder if some small antlers would look too ridiculous...though this is the nation where people keep live songbirds in their hair. Probably wouldn't even be noteworthy. :S
Maybe some griffon wings worked in somewhere else on her outfit.
I wish I had artistic talent in moments like these...
Random thought: Some nightingales have pretty blue bellies or heads.
I'd like to draw a mask for Leliana in pastel blue with delicate silver engraving.
Only the males, though. I'm not sure if Leliana thought this nickname through entirely. :S
The nightingale codename is probably a reference to the bird being a popular symbol for poets & poetry. Her nomme de guerre hints at her bard past.
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Yeah, it's the poet thing.. and just being a nighttime songbird.
Her name makes a helluva more sense here than Skyrim's use of nightingale. I think someone just saw "night" there and thought it was supposed to be broody and "evil" or something. lol
It's also just Leliana's favourite bird. She brought them up in a banter with Shale.
The nightingale codename is probably a reference to the bird being a popular symbol for poets & poetry. Her nomme de guerre hints at her bard past.
It's fun symbolism. It makes me want to imagine other spies named for birds within the lore.
It's also just Leliana's favourite bird. She brought them up in a banter with Shale.
True, but I think it is her favorite bird because of its reputation for a pretty melody and the poetic quality of it being an evening bird. It does take up some extra meaning with her rise to to the Left Hand, and how she operates.
Nightingale is just one of the prettiest names for a bird as well. I always think of the scene in Romeo and Juliet where Juliet contemplates the Nightingale for a moment. Her musing over the Nightingale and the Toad "switching eyes" seems like something Leliana might say.
It's also just Leliana's favourite bird. She brought them up in a banter with Shale.
It was one history's first actual "nurses" too. That's probably a big part of it for Bioware at least.
The wikipedia article on the nightingale has a good section on the bird's symbolism:
The common nightingale is an important symbol for poets from a variety of ages, and has taken on a number of symbolic connotations. Homer evokes the Nightingale in the Odyssey, suggesting the myth of Philomela and Procne (one of whom, depending on the myth's version, is turned into a nightingale. This myth is the focus of Sophocles' tragedy, Tereus, of which only fragments remain. Ovid, too, in his Metamorphoses, includes the most popular version of this myth, imitated and altered by later poets, including Chrétien de Troyes, Geoffrey Chaucer, John Gower, and George Gascoigne. T.S. Eliot's "The Waste Land" also evokes the common nightingale's song (and the myth of Philomela and Procne). Because of the violence associated with the myth, the nightingale's song was long interpreted as a lament.
The common nightingale has also been used as a symbol of poets or their poetry. Poets chose the nightingale as a symbol because of its creative and seemingly spontaneous song. Aristophanes's Birds and Callimachus both evoke the bird's song as a form of poetry. Virgil compares the mourning of Orpheus to the “lament of the nightingale”.
In Sonnet 102 Shakespeare compares his love poetry to the song of the common nightingale (Philomel):
"Our love was new, and then but in the spring,
When I was wont to greet it with my lays;
As Philomel in summer's front doth sing,
And stops his pipe in growth of riper days:"
During the Romantic era the bird's symbolism changed once more: poets viewed the nightingale not only as a poet in his own right, but as “master of a superior art that could inspire the human poet”. For some romantic poets, the nightingale even began to take on qualities of the muse. Coleridge and Wordsworth saw the nightingale more as an instance of natural poetic creation: the nightingale became a voice of nature. John Keats' "Ode to a Nightingale" pictures the nightingale as an idealized poet who has achieved the poetry that Keats longs to write. Invoking a similar conception of the nightingale, Shelley wrote in his “A Defense of Poetry":
"A poet is a nightingale who sits in darkness and sings to cheer its own solitude with sweet sounds; his auditors are as men entranced by the melody of an unseen musician, who feel that they are moved and softened, yet know not whence or why.”
I wonder if Lels used the name Nightingale even when she was still a bard, pre-Origins. Highly doubt it though, since she never mentions it.
I'm sure her code name connected to her job as The Left Hand (seeing as how her full name is Sister Nightingale) rather than a bardic title, but then again one might wonder why she didn't choose something that didn't symbolize poetry and singing since her job as Left Hand only involved spying and killing.
She was the Divine's personal assassin as Left Hand, no seducing, no singing or sweet-talking the target, just cold blooded killing. Ain't nobody got time for that. Hence why she's against throwing a party during a war table mission if the Quizzy chooses the Champoin spec. Or refusing to join Josie and Cullen for tea. Or anything other than her work as Spymaster.
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I wonder if Lels used the name Nightingale even when she was still a bard, pre-Origins. Highly doubt it though, since she never mentions it.
I'm sure her code name connected to her job as The Left Hand (seeing as how her full name is Sister Nightingale) rather than a bardic title, but then again one might wonder why she didn't choose something that didn't symbolize poetry and singing since her job as Left Hand only involved spying and killing.
She was the Divine's personal assassin as Left Hand, no seducing, no singing or sweet-talking the target, just cold blooded killing. Ain't nobody got time for that. Hence why she's against throwing a party during a war table mission if the Quizzy chooses the Champoin spec. Or refusing to join Josie and Cullen for tea. Or anything other than her work as Spymaster.
I don't think that's what she first expected either. Maybe she picked the name for bardic reasons...... then lost herself to an entirely different crappy job.
I don't think that's what she first expected either. Maybe she picked the name for bardic reasons...... then lost herself to an entirely different crappy job.
"Nightingale" does roll off the tongue, but yeah, I doubt she used it in her bard days. She probably used dozens of aliases back then.
She was the Divine's personal assassin as Left Hand, no seducing, no singing or sweet-talking the target, just cold blooded killing. Ain't nobody got time for that. Hence why she's against throwing a party during a war table mission if the Quizzy chooses the Champoin spec. Or refusing to join Josie and Cullen for tea. Or anything other than her work as Spymaster.
That sort of thing might still be going on just that it would be her underlings who are doing the dirty work rather than Leliana herself. One of the potential agents you can recruit for Leliana in Inquisition, is implied to be recruited as a potential honey trap.
This might be wishful thinking on my part, but wasn't there a contact of hers called "Raven" in one of the codex entries?
I'm imagining one who was called "Hawk" and who got really grumpy right after a certain failed Qunari siege on Kirkwall. 
Yes, I'm running with this idea of a guild of Chantry spies who go by bird names, and nothing less than substantial evidence to the contrary will compel me to give it up.
I guess Leliana as the Left Hand was kinda like Varys and his 'little birds' all over the place in Game of Thrones. By that I mean she probably called them little birds too. It fits. :S
This might be wishful thinking on my part, but wasn't there a contact of hers called "Raven" in one of the codex entries?
I'm imagining one who was called "Hawk" and who got really grumpy right after a certain failed Qunari siege on Kirkwall.
Yes, I'm running with this idea of a guild of Chantry spies who go by bird names, and nothing less than substantial evidence to the contrary will compel me to give it up.
I feel sorry for Sister Swallow. She got stuck with what could be a stage name for the Blooming Rose.
This might be wishful thinking on my part, but wasn't there a contact of hers called "Raven" in one of the codex entries?
I'm imagining one who was called "Hawk" and who got really grumpy right after a certain failed Qunari siege on Kirkwall.
Yes, I'm running with this idea of a guild of Chantry spies who go by bird names, and nothing less than substantial evidence to the contrary will compel me to give it up.
I feel sorry for Hawk, that'd be a pain to deal with constantly.
Hawk: You may call me... "Hawk".
Noble: "Hawke?" As in, the Champ-
Hawk: No... as in the bird, without the e.
Who comes up with their silly codenames? Although, it's kind of a weird coincidence that James Bond was also named after an ornithologist?! What is it with spies and their bizarre preoccupation with birds?
I guess Leliana as the Left Hand was kinda like Varys and his 'little birds' all over the place in Game of Thrones. By that I mean she probably called them little birds too. It fits. :S
Lol! Leliana, the pretty version of Varys.
Well she has a Sparrow taking care of her babies, so it wouldn't surprise me at all!
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I think I'm remembering the Raven thing from right after claiming a Keep. Maybe the one in Crestwood.
I'm going to be really disappointed if this is all my imagination.
I feel sorry for Sister Swallow. She got stuck with what could be a stage name for the Blooming Rose.
The implications...
I feel sorry for Sister Swallow. She got stuck with what could be a stage name for the Blooming Rose.
I have no words.
I feel sorry for Hawk, that'd be a pain to deal with constantly.
Hawk: You may call me... "Hawk".
Noble: "Hawke?" As in, the Champ-
Hawk: No... as in the bird, without the e.
Who comes up with their silly codenames? Although, it's kinda funny that James Bond was named after an ornithologist! What is it with spies and their bizarre preoccupation with birds?
Poor guy. He's going to be pretty grouchy eventually.
btw, there's a bird called the "titmouse."
I feel more sorry for whomever got that one.
I feel sorry for Sister Swallow. She got stuck with what could be a stage name for the Blooming Rose.
Could be worse, she could be named Sister Great Ti...
Well, I'll let you fill the rest of that in, since the spam filter doesn't appreciate birds with hilarious names? 
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