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[Han Shot First]

Leliana does say that her father was from Orlais. But as far as I know that's the only thing she ever says about him. It's in one line of dialogue in DA:O, and even that is easily missed. 

[FadelessRipley]

Leliana does say that her father was from Orlais. But as far as I know that's the only thing she ever says about him. It's in one line of dialogue in DA:O, and even that is easily missed.

I'm always a bit confused - was Leliana born in Fereldan or Orlais? I think Orlais - her affinity to Fereldan is based on her mother to me.

[ThePhoenixKing]

Looking at Leliana, Cassandra and Briala (who are mid thirties) and comparing them to Celene (who is canonically 36/37) is rather weird really.

 

I can understand being an Empress is a stressful job, but let's be honest, being Left Hand is just as hard work. Leliana's fragile physique and the fact she is so shaken and broken up emotionally further proves this. Celene didn't have blood on her hands all day, everyday. 

 

Yet Leliana still looks gorgeous and Celene (if you've seen her without a mask) is rather...meh. I feel the designers went a little too far with aging and wrinkling her up.

 

Here's a notion; maybe exposure to the Sacred Ashes of Andraste are responsible for Leliana looking so ageless? It's easy to imagine that the Warden would have given her the task over overseeing the pouch of Ashes on the way back to Redcliffe, so maybe she had some secondary exposure to its healing properties?

 

Getting older is not the same for everybody. I'm 38 and I can't conceal it, but I know people of my age who seem to have made a pact with the devil. A friend of mine surely does. And there are women like Monica Bellucci. She's 50 and hot as hell.

 

They could have put more wrinkles in Leliana's or in Morrigan's skin to show they are not in their 20s, but at least is not Flemeth's story of having an old looking face in DAO, a youthful face in DA2, and then a face full of wrinkles in DAI, while having every time a body that many young girls would kill to have. Maybe Morrigan benefits of having Flemeths heritage somehow

 

I was thinking... We don't know much about Leli's father, do we? And these days it seems we have old elven gods everywhere. Maybe she is the daughter of a hidden elven god too. That would justify any plot hole with her and her youthful look. Dum dum dummmm!   Just joking, enough hidden elven gods already, and we wouldn't stop hearing complaints about her pet writer's status

 

Well, I did pose the theory earlier that her father was the Usurper King Meghren.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Leliana does say that her father was from Orlais. But as far as I know that's the only thing she ever says about him. It's in one line of dialogue in DA:O, and even that is easily missed. 

 

Hey, could still be an Orlesian elf. :S

 

I'm always a bit confused - was Leliana born in Fereldan or Orlais? I think Orlais - her affinity to Fereldan is based on her mother to me.

 

She was born in Ferelden IIRC, and fled to Orlais with her mother when the occupation ended. Probably when she was a few months old.

 

EDIT: Ah, nevermind. I guess her mother was just pregnant with her when she left or something.

[FadelessRipley]

Here's a notion; maybe exposure to the Sacred Ashes of Andraste are responsible for Leliana looking so ageless? It's easy to imagine that the Warden would have given her the task over overseeing the pouch of Ashes on the way back to Redcliffe, so maybe she had some secondary exposure to its healing properties?
 

Well... Isn't that kind of the explanation they're going for to explain away the monstrous decision to kill her?

[Han Shot First]

I'm always a bit confused - was Leliana born in Fereldan or Orlais? I think Orlais - her affinity to Fereldan is based on her mother to me.

 

It has been so long since I played DA:O, but I think she was born in Orlais as well.

 

My personal pet theory (a.k.a. head canon) on Leliana's father is that he was part of the Orlesian occupation of Ferelden. While in Ferelden he ends up getting involved with a local Fereldan woman, and when the Orlesians withdraw from Ferelden following the Battle of the River Dane, she is forced to flee with the retreating army. 

 

It fits within the timeline and might explain why Leliana's mother ended up in Orlais. As countries in Europe were liberated in World War Two, local women who had relationships with German soldiers were often targeted by mobs for retaliation. And this was in civilized nations. I can't imagine a quasi-medieval country like Ferelden is some place where she'd be safe if the Orlesian occupation was the backdrop of how they met.

[mrcrazyman]

She was born in Orlais as told in the  "Why did you decide to come to Ferelden?" dialogue

 

 

 

Leliana does say that her father was from Orlais. But as far as I know that's the only thing she ever says about him. It's in one line of dialogue in DA:O, and even that is easily missed. 

 

Do you recall what that line was? I don't remember that.

[FadelessRipley]

She was born in Orlais as told in the  "Why did you decide to come to Ferelden?" dialogue
 

 
 

Yes, thank you! I'm not at that point with her yet and it's been a while since I played.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

She was born in Orlais as told in the  "Why did you decide to come to Ferelden?" dialogue

 

 

 

Ah, I had a feeling I was missing something. I swear I just had that dialogue a while ago. >.>

 

I'm guessing her mother was just pregnant with her when she left or something. Fits her age range.

[jlb524]

I'm always Cousland, so I'd recommend it. It's fun and has major feelz. Plus, Barkspawn straight off the bat!

Cousland it is...and getting the dog first is great xd

[FadelessRipley]

Cousland it is...and getting the dog first is great xd

Barkspawn! Though I named mind Feros, as I'd completed a Mass Effect run and was taking ages choosing a name.

[jlb524]

Barkspawn! Though I named mind Feros, as I'd completed a Mass Effect run and was taking ages choosing a name.

 

I named mine "Percival".

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I usually just randomly select a random elven word every playthrough. Still not sure what my Warden's canon name for Barkspawn is yet. It's 'Fen' this time. :S

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Barkspawn is a very 'Alistair' name. No way my Warden would think of that unless she asks him. :S

[FadelessRipley]

I used to think the Mabari face quite ugly - like some sort of weird Boxer (whom I actually think are cute). He's grown on me though. Dammit, why doesn't Skyhold have them!!

[FadelessRipley]

Barkspawn is a very 'Alistair' name. No way my Warden would think of that unless she asks him. :S

My Warden would never have such a naff name. Feros is noble! *makes up some sort of canon legend* She still can't believe Leliana chose "Schmooples" for a name. She's absolutely mortified calling that out the back door of their house at feeding time!

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Mabari are da best.

 

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How could anyone say no to that faaace? :3

 

I do wonder how the Warden/Leliana household fared with nugs and a mabari, though. Did they get along? I like to think they did, with time. :S

 

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My Warden would never have such a naff name. Feros is noble! *makes up some sort of canon legend* She still can't believe Leliana chose "Schmooples" for a name. She's absolutely mortified calling that out the back door of their house at feeding time!

 

Most of my names I've chosen for him are related to elven gods in some way, it seems. Leliana and my Warden are very different pet owners, one gives her pets cutesy 'd'awwww...' names, the other is the type who names her pets something suitably intimidating like 'Thor' or 'Zeus' or something, I suppose. :S

[FadelessRipley]

 
I do wonder how the Warden/Leliana household fared with nugs and a mabari, though. Did they get along? I like to think they did, with time. :S
 
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Err, Fen or whoever is looking flipping murderous there!! I've always assumed Feros and Schmooples get along. I've never gotten around to actually writing the "Epic Tale of Elswyn Cousland, Hero of Fereldan", but I scribble little scenes every so often. I had this idea once that the Warden finds a wolf Morrigan frolicking, actually FROLICKING in a clearing with Feros and Schmooples. Needless to say, many strangled threats of setting the entire forest aflame if she breathes a word ensued...

[Han Shot First]

 

 

Do you recall what that line was? I don't remember that.

 

Unfortunately no, I just remember that it was a single line. It was also only said in response to one dialogue option and not the others if I remember correctly. 

 

It might have have been while asking her why her mother went to Orlais.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Err, Fen or whoever is looking flipping murderous there!!

 

Hey, like I said, they got along with time. I imagine he was collaborating with Oghren for a potential snack for a while beforehand. 

 

I like your idea of Morrigan actually having a soft-spot for the two of them in private tho... :S

[mrcrazyman]

I always named the mabari Dog since I couldn't think of a name

 

Dammit, why doesn't Skyhold have them!!

 

 

Considering Merrill's story and how mabari are super intelligent I blame Solas

 

Unfortunately no, I just remember that it was a single line. It was also only said in response to one dialogue option and not the others if I remember correctly. 

 

It might have have been while asking her why her mother went to Orlais.

 

interesting

[FadelessRipley]

Hey, like I said, they got along with time. I imagine he was collaborating with Oghren for a potential snack for a while beforehand.

I like your idea of Morrigan actually having a soft-spot for the two of them in private tho... :S

Ah, don't mind Sten - Morrigan was the real softie. Though she didn't take to Schmooples at first. He was one for the unmentionables as a nuglet. What stopped her from snapping was a fib the Warden told her about there being an especially maudlin, wailing few verses of the Chant of Light for deceased pets. Leliana, being so devout, would of COURSE start reciting this through her heartbroken sobs... She almost had her until she pushed it too far by claiming it had to be recited nightly for a week.

[thesuperdarkone2]

What happens if Leliana's quest isn't done during her Divine argument. Guess this explains why her ending if her quest isn't done is bad:

 

https://youtu.be/16FgkunwekU?t=21m45s