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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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Yeah but I can see why it wasn't a priority. Not everyone romanced Leliana in Origins afterall. 

 

Yeah. I kinda just wish every conversation had a more cinematic camera again, honestly. Especially with important characters. 

 

Not fond of the new style tbh. :/

 

The only remaining question is the Warden fate if alive and what Leliana will do wether she is Divine or not? We know what she intends to do (reunite with them).

 

Well, we don't really know what happens to the Warden, so who knows. 

 

In my case I'd like to believe she returns, sweeps Leliana off her feet and so on, before they run off to relive their good ol' adventuring days and nobody bothers them ever again. /iwanttobelieve



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I think all of the companions & advisers should have had fully cinematic conversations. The lack of them made DA:I the least immersive game in the series. 

 

Yeah, they really took me out of the conversations. I spent most of my time trying to pan the camera into a decent angle, I was only paying half-attention to a lot of it. I can understand random side NPCs, but I think companions/advisers should have had cinematic camera at all times. I'm pretty sure there was less content with them than there was in the past games anyway...


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Yeah, they really took me out of the conversations. I spent most of my time trying to pan the camera into a decent angle, I was only paying half-attention to a lot of it. I can understand random side NPCs, but I think companions/advisers should have had cinematic camera at all times. I'm pretty sure there was less content with them than there was in the past games anyway...

 

Even random side NPCs deserve it.

 

So much memorable moments from the last two games ae random npcs.... with cinematics.

 

Not that any of it is mindblowing cinematics, but it added to the immersion. Master Wade would be a completely different character if I didn't see his pouting up close. :D 


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Yeah...doesn't have to be anything fancy for them. But just seeing expressions does wonders. 

 

The only advantage to the non-cinematic conversations, is that you can take the opportunity to swing the camera over and evaluate the quality of every character's posterior. Not that I did that or anything. 



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The only advantage to the non-cinematic conversations, is that you can take the opportunity to swing the camera over and evaluate the quality of every character's posterior. Not that I did that or anything. 

 

Profile views are nice, too.  Comparing heights, how much back arc would go into snogging...

 

Erm, or so I've heard.   :blush:


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Yeah...doesn't have to be anything fancy for them. But just seeing expressions does wonders. 

 

The only advantage to the non-cinematic conversations, is that you can take the opportunity to swing the camera over and evaluate the quality of every character's posterior. Not that I did that or anything. 

Profile views are nice, too.  Comparing heights, how much back arc would go into snogging...

 

Erm, or so I've heard.   :blush:

For shame! You forgot about matching skin tones and bed sheet colors! For shame! (Yes, I said it twice!)



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Ah, I have been remiss.  Truly I am shaméd.

 

And to weight in on this topic: cobalt blue provides the optimal contrast between skin tones and hair (that lovely copper hair!) as far as I'm concerned.



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Ah, I have been remiss.  Truly I am shaméd.

 

And to weight in on this topic: cobalt blue provides the optimal contrast between skin tones and hair (that lovely copper hair!) as far as I'm concerned.

Speaking of color schemes: Leliana's outfit is really drab. It does fit with her name 'nightingale' since they are brown birds, but it adds to her aura of wistfulness. Brown and grey: lacking in vibrancy. Everything about her just seems sad.

 

Maybe that's one of the reasons she is fond of Sera: it reminds her of herself when she was younger.



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Maybe that's one of the reasons she is fond of Sera: it reminds her of herself when she was younger.

Yes. It's kinda cute.



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Some of the concept art for DA:I had Leliana in slightly more colorful attire.

 

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Nice shot.
 
The only remaining question is the Warden fate if alive and what Leliana will do wether she is Divine or not? We know what she intends to do (reunite with them).
 

Makes me think about that XD


All we do know is that the romance will continue if she is Divine, as confirmed by Chee and Weekes. It's an open secret at first, then Leliana changes those stuffy old celibacy rules for the Divine. :rolleyes: That was my main reason for refusing to have her as Divine in my canon playthrough. If she had dumped the Warden I'd have lost my reason!! While becoming Divine is a fitting end to the faith elements of her arc, I still want her free of responsibility. Maybe she can convince the Warden to stay based in Val Royeaux and help out every so often with making sure Cassandra doesn't kill the Clerics. :D

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Some of the concept art for DA:I had Leliana in slightly more colorful attire.

 

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I like the two in the middle of the top row and the third one in the bottom row the most


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Modders have made some much flashier versions of her outfit.

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While becoming Divine is a fitting end to the faith elements of her arc, I still want her free of responsibility.:D


I still refuse to do it. I shall not be denied my WardenxLeliana 'For Good This Time' Adventures of Hell Yes and Warm Fuzziness Part 2 after all this time of separation. They would have to pry it from my cold dead hands. :P
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Occasional visits to the Grand Cathedral to sneak Cassandra out for some adventuring are quite enough involvement, thank you! :D
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Occasional visits to the Grand Cathedral to sneak Cassandra out for some adventuring are quite enough involvement, thank you! :D

 

I like to think my Inquisitor will continue to take Cassandra out for brief forays into the wilds over the years while she's Divine, for old times sake. Even when she doesn't really need her for anything. Just because she knows punching bears usually makes her feel better. Nothing like the head of the Andrastian faith relieving stress by smacking bears in the face.  :lol:

 

Hell, after the DLC, maybe we can just get her a personal pet bear to keep in the Grand Cathedral to wrestle with every now and again. Kinda like how some people keep a stress ball under their desk, Cassandra keeps a bear. 

 

She'd be welcome to tag along with Leliana and my Warden for a while if she's up for it too, yeah. :S



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I like those concept versions. That face... is less sweet, but still cool. It looks familiar, but can't place it. Has more of that cold stare Gillian Anderson could have. Love the nose too.



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Another, you have to flycam to really see it well unfortunately, but:

 

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Nostalgia at Valence. 

 

I really wish the conversations about the Warden were cinematic conversations instead of boring old generic freecamera ones. I reckon we'd get a few decent nostalgia/longing smiles and the like.  :(

 

If you look more carefully you can see just how many freckles she has on her face. They may be subtle, but there are quite a few. 

 

Really wish she had those in Origins.



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If you look more carefully you can see just how many freckles she has on her face. They may be subtle, but there are quite a few. 

 

Really wish she had those in Origins.

 

I've actually been tinkering with the toolset in an attempt to do that for a while now, but DA:O is not quite so subtle with freckles. :S



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I've actually been tinkering with the toolset in an attempt to do that for a while now, but DA:O is not quite so subtle with freckles. :S

Changing her complexion to a healthier color is a good first step. Her default skin tone looks a little jaundiced. Interestingly, she has two bigger freckles where femme fatale type characters have beauty marks. Look above the left corner of her mouth and under the right corner of her right eye. That makes her a subtle femme fatale then?



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Changing her complexion to a healthier color is a good first step. Her default skin tone looks a little jaundiced. Interestingly, she has two bigger freckles where femme fatale type characters have beauty marks. Look above the left corner of her mouth and under the right corner of her right eye. That makes her a subtle femme fatale then?


Yeah, the complexion is one of the reasons vanilla Leliana in DA:O was a bit of a mixed bag for me. Her vanilla skin tone looks...really unhealthy. Not sure what they were going for with that.

You never know with DA:O's lighting though. Sometimes I almost think she's a bit overly ghostly white at times now. Cloister life I guess. :S

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...I kinda just wanted to post this screenshot too, tbh. Just because. :P

Also I don't think Lels is a subtle femme fatale anymore. :S

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I think they were going for a warmer, yellowish skin tone you might notice in some redheads. Many are pale like Morrigan, which they went with for Leli in DAI.



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It did kind of end up looking like she just had something wrong with her liver, though.

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It did kind of end up looking like she just had something wrong with her liver, though.

 

 

I think it was probably more conceived for Asian looking characters (like Mother Mallol), so I see how it's a bit off when paired with red hair. But I still liked it.



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And that is why you send the rogues ahead of the group.

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Lmfao. Ahh, good times.