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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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#13026
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They should cut to black just before the Warden takes the potentially fatal cure.

 

Hey, that's what I said.  :P

 

I'd probably break my monitor.



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then after the fade to black have a Looney Tunes 'That's all Folks' slide pop up


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#13028
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I believe I know what the credits song would need to be.

 

I'm not sure if I'd laugh, rage or cry. 



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The DLC should end with a cow falling on the Warden and Leliana.

 

Obscure reference is obscure.



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Well, I immediately thought of this. Not sure if we're on the same page.  :lol:



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It's actually a reference to the video game and cartoon series Earthworm Jim, which always ended with a cow falling on the protagonist or something close to the protagonist.



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Either way, I still hold onto the fact there's something secret regarding Leliana's character that the devs are keeping it to themselves. She is resistant to the Blight, she claims to have heard the voice of the Maker, and if she is killed she gets resurrected even though the Urn of Sacred Ashes is gone. Leli what are you hiding...


Can you just *imagine* the collective BSN meltdown... :rolleyes: I'd love it though. LELIANA FOR ANDRASTE REBORN FTW!!! :D
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Indeed it is. We need to post some naughty pictures. That should wake the crowd up.

 

Or we could ponder the eternal question: does Leliana prefer to sleep on her back or on her side? Mmh... I think she's a side sleeper. All curled up to stay warm and feel safe. And to feel like someone is holding her...

 

 

I made myself sad.

 

Side. You can't really spoon someone if they're on their back.

 

Everyone says this, and I'm really not sure what to make of it, haha. :P

 

Yeah, I thought you were a woman, though that was mostly a consequence of your profile pic.

 

Aye, but then there are no Wardens? I'm not sure of the "science" of it, but I'd like for the Calling part to be gotten rid of but the Darkspawn Spidey senses to remain. Impossible, most likely. :) I suppose they could administer the Cure after X amount of years of service. It would be good to purify the Joining, too - poor Daveth and Jory still haunt my Warden. :(

 

Does anyone properly understand the link between Red Lyrium and the Blight? I only played the scene with Bianca once and don't fully get it. I've been toying with the idea of Red Lyrium somehow being a possible solution, although there's risks that have to be eliminated. I've also started to consider headcanoning that Morrigan takes off to find the Warden and help out with her new found magical swimming pool powers. Avernus is taking too bloody long!  :lol:

 

I'm just wondering if the Calling cure would completely rid the taint from the Warden's body or just cut them off from the Calling and slow the deterioration on the body that it causes. Either way, I imagine they'll still be immune. So many unanswered questions.

 

Personally, I think (and I'm hoping) the Calling cure would simply be that, a cure for the Calling, not for the Joining itself. After all, there are still many advantages to going through the Joining (enhanced strength and endurance, resistance to the Blight sickness, the ability to tap into the hive mind, etc), and I don't think that any Warden, no matter their own personal opinions towards the Order or being a Warden in general, would be so foolish/selfish/short-sighted as to neuter the Order by curing the Joining completely. The naysayers can ****** and moan like they usually do, but the Wardens are still needed, and even after Adament, I'd still trust them over pretty much everyone else in Thedas.

 

God, how I hate the Wardens' portrayal in Inquisition...


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Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them if Leliana was a descendent if Andraste
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Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them if Leliana was a descendent if Andraste

 

I'd like her to be the reincarnation of Andraste!



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I'd rather they don't...feels like it'd be a really unnecessary bit of snowflake added to her when there really shouldn't have been. She's fine as she is, I actually think this would take away from her. I also can't help but feel like it would cheapen her arc of finding her way to the path of faith a bit, by giving the impression it was some sort of divine destiny that was lain out for her all along. No thanks. 

 

This would also require her to have a role again, which I really don't want. 


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I'd rather they don't...feels like it'd be a really unnecessary bit of snowflake added to her when there really shouldn't have been. She's fine as she is, I actually think this would take away from her a bit. I also can't help but feel like it would cheapen her arc of finding her way to the path of faith a bit, by giving the impression it was some sort of divine destiny that was lain out for her all along. No thanks. 

 

This would also require her to have a role again, which I really don't want. 

 

They already hit Alistair with the special snowflake stick, best not to do it with all DAO companions


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I'd rather they don't...feels like it'd be a really unnecessary bit of snowflake added to her when there really shouldn't have been. She's fine as she is, I actually think this would take away from her a bit. I also can't help but feel like it would cheapen her arc of finding her way to the path of faith a bit, by giving the impression it was some sort of divine destiny that was lain out for her all along. No thanks.

This would also require her to have a role again, which I really don't want.


Considering how easily a romanced Leliana ignores the Warden when she says that she wants to be divine, I wouldn't count in it

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Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them if Leliana was a descendent if Andraste

I like the way you think.



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So, that nugelope few pages back. I just realized it was April Fool's.

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They already hit Alistair with the special snowflake stick, best not to do it with all DAO companions

 

^

 

Considering how easily a romanced Leliana ignores the Warden when she says that she wants to be divine, I wouldn't count in it

 

That glaring oversight bothers me, yes, but at least it's lessened by the fact that she probably planned to change the rules at that point anyway. 

 

She's never Divine in my game though, so I see absolutely no reason why they'd bring her back in any event. Her story is done. Seriously. It would serve no purpose other than to arbitrarily f*** with the Warden's 'happy ending' that Weekes is so convinced about the existence of at the moment.



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So, that nugelope few pages back. I just realized it was April Fool's.

You also forgot the mage bard reveal



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It was DAMP. I don't follow DAMP, cos my computer can't handle it

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...alright, now here's an interesting question that crosses my mind.

What if the Warden finds the cure, but it ends up being a 'cure could be worse than the disease' kind of deal? As in, they might be cured, but the process is more agonizing than the Joining itself. There's about a 50/50, maybe greater, chance that it will just strike them dead right there.

Let's say rather than take it, the Warden holds onto it and goes back to Leliana. What would she suggest I wonder. Take the gamble and potentially live a full life, or live out the few years the Warden may have being a Warden made during a Blight as best they can? We know Wardens who lived through Blights die even younger than usual.

I'm torn. I think she...might try? If they made a Warden DLC, this would be a good choice. :S

I'm a blood mage. I'd just use Avernus' methods to hold it off if that was the option.



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Half of Thedas is probably descended from Andraste.



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Half of Thedas is probably descended from Andraste.

 

This is actually a good point. How long before DA:I did Andraste die? She could potentially have thousands of living descendants. 



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This is actually a good point. How long before DA:I did Andraste die? She could potentially have thousands of living descendants. 

 

Indeed, I'm also not really seeing the point to it. It would be far more interesting to learn something about Andraste herself, rather than someone being a possible descendant of her. 



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Personally, I think (and I'm hoping) the Calling cure would simply be that, a cure for the Calling, not for the Joining itself. After all, there are still many advantages to going through the Joining (enhanced strength and endurance, resistance to the Blight sickness, the ability to tap into the hive mind, etc), and I don't think that any Warden, no matter their own personal opinions towards the Order or being a Warden in general, would be so foolish/selfish/short-sighted as to neuter the Order by curing the Joining completely. The naysayers can ****** and moan like they usually do, but the Wardens are still needed, and even after Adament, I'd still trust them over pretty much everyone else in Thedas.

 

God, how I hate the Wardens' portrayal in Inquisition...

I'm not sure how you could cure the Calling without curing the Joining since they have the same source: the Blight. The Calling is heard when the Taint takes over and the Warden is about to become a ghoul. Instead of becoming a Darkspawn they decide to go down fighting as themselves.

 

They infect themselves with a terminal disease and the Calling is just the last symptom before it essentially kills them. The Architect was able to sever the connection to the Old Gods from full Darkspawn, but it didn't stop them having the Blight and spreading it.

 

Basically, if you just cut the Warden off from the old God's song, aka the Calling, they are still going to die from the Blight. It would be like a symptom relief medicine, but not a cure. If the Warden wants a long a happy life with Leliana, they have to cure themselves of the Blight completely, like Fiona did.

 

Finally, if a cure for the Blight itself can be replicated, the need for the Wardens disappears since it could be used as a weapon against Darkspawn and would thus lessen the threat of an Archdemon. No need to kill it, just cure it.

 

Of course we still don't know what the deal is between the Old Gods and the Darkspawn. Why do they call to them before they are Blighted?


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This is actually a good point. How long before DA:I did Andraste die? She could potentially have thousands of living descendants. 

http://dragonage.wik...ren_of_Andraste



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I'm not sure how you could cure the Calling without curing the Joining since they have the same source: the Blight. The Calling is heard when the Taint takes over and the Warden is about to become a ghoul. Instead of becoming a Darkspawn they decide to go down fighting as themselves.

 

They infect themselves with a terminal disease and the Calling is just the last symptom before it essentially kills them. The Architect was able to sever the connection to the Old Gods from full Darkspawn, but it didn't stop them having the Blight and spreading it.

 

Basically, if you just cut the Warden off from the old God's song, aka the Calling, they are still going to die from the Blight. It would be like a symptom relief medicine, but not a cure. If the Warden wants a long a happy life with Leliana, they have to cure themselves of the Blight completely, like Fiona did.

 

Finally, if a cure for the Blight itself can be replicated, the need for the Wardens disappears since it could be used as a weapon against Darkspawn and would thus lessen the threat of an Archdemon. No need to kill it, just cure it.

 

Of course we still don't know what the deal is between the Old Gods and the Darkspawn. Why do they call to them before they are Blighted?

I still like the idea of having the Wardens. I'd hope more for a purification of the Joining method or something - something that gives the Grey Warden abilities, but also gives them a natural lifespan. Idealistic and impossible, no doubt. :) I too am sad about the Wardens in Inquisition, especially that they betrayed Justinia. My Warden is going to feel horrendous when she finds that out! Poor Leliana. :(

 

While Patrick Weekes is insistent about the "riding off into the sunset" endings and probably will not bring the Warden back, I really do hope some resolution to this Calling Cure quest is given, even off-screen. It's a pretty big game changer lore-wise and it would be pretty sloppy to leave it a perpetually unanswered question purely to justify the HoF never reappearing.  :mellow:


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