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[thats1evildude]

raped by a demon

I can think of worse names for death metal bands.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

The supposed resistance to the Blight comes off to me as simply an explanation as to why Leliana, and the rest of the Origins party didn't get infected by it during the Fifth Blight. The devs have stated in the past that they had the idea to let the party members get infected, and you would then have the choice to make them Grey Wardens.
 
I doubt Leliana has some kind of dragon blood in her like Alistair, not sure what the point of it would be too. 

This. I don't think it's anything special so much as her and most of the party built up a resistance to the taint in DAO. Not many non-Wardens can claim to have had as much contact with darkspawn as Leliana, and it makes sense that she got small doses of contact without ever succumbing to it, thus building resistance, as she was (in my case anyway) an archer who only ocassionally got showered with darkspawn blood and the like.

[Han Shot First]

 

Her having dragon blood kind of fits with her resistance to the Blight in Inquisition. Maybe she is a descendant from a dragon-slaying family like the Pentaghasts or even distant relatives to Alistair's family. From her father's side at least. 

 

I think it is unlikely she is intended to be part Theirin, because Leliana & Alistair end up in a relationship in the alternate timeline of Darkspawn Chronicles. 

 

Also Leliana's father was Orlesian.

[Wulfram]

I think it is unlikely she is intended to be part Theirin, because Leliana & Alistair end up in a relationship in the alternate timeline of Darkspawn Chronicles. 
 
Also Leliana's father was Orlesian.

Well, she could easily be part Theirin while still being barely related to Alistair. You'd expect there'd be a whole lot of people descended from Calenhad kicking around Fereldan.

[N7_Heartfire]

 

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[Basement Cat]

 

http://mllsn.tumblr....for-orbitoflove

 

The Hands of the Divine.

 

a.k.a. me waifus

Nice! Dang, look at Cassandra's scabbard. Why does she need those studs there? Maybe she uses it as an improvised weapon...

 

Leliana's raven looks like he's saying ''Raise those shoulders higher, girl! Stand proud!'' 

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Finally finished the DA:O playthrough I was working on for three something weeks now. 

 

Nothing like making out while covered in blood and surrounded by a field of darkspawn corpses, right?

 

 

Always makes me sad to finish a playthrough, though, because after the final coronation that's the last bit of screentime Lels and the Warden ever get together. Alistair has that little snippet in Awakening, Morrigan has Witch Hunt...but Leliana and Zevran's on-screen content with the Warden begins and ends in DA:O. Makes it kinda depressing to walk out of the doors at the end. 

 

At least mods give it a sendoff, anyway, by a long victory kiss right in front of the entire bannorn. :S

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Aww yiss.

[Fiery Phoenix]

da'wwwwwwwwwwww

[Basement Cat]

@Snook

 

The kiss is sweet, but by thunder is that dress hideous! Yellows and oranges do not suit Leliana at all. Black and blue on the other hand...

 

 

She would look nice in this little number. Oh yes.

[Serza]

Nice! Dang, look at Cassandra's scabbard. Why does she need those studs there? Maybe she uses it as an improvised weapon...

 

Leliana's raven looks like he's saying ''Raise those shoulders higher, girl! Stand proud!'' 

 

I think they're for looks. Half-swording is far more effective than hitting with a scabbard, IMHO.

 

Also, it's faster to just change hold on your sword than remove the scabbard from your hip, I imagine.

 

Finally finished the DA:O playthrough I was working on for three something weeks now. 

 

Nothing like making out while covered in blood and surrounded by a field of darkspawn corpses, right?

 

 

Always makes me sad to finish a playthrough, though, because after the final coronation that's the last bit of screentime Lels and the Warden ever get together. Alistair has that little snippet in Awakening, Morrigan has Witch Hunt...but Leliana and Zevran's on-screen content with the Warden begins and ends in DA:O. Makes it kinda depressing to walk out of the doors at the end. 

 

At least mods give it a sendoff, anyway, by a long victory kiss right in front of the entire bannorn. :S

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Aww yiss.

 

Nice pictures...

 

Reminds me, maybe I should do that DA:O playthrough with a Warden that falls for Leliana for a change. Alistair can't have all the fun, can he?

[Serza]

@Snook

 

The kiss is sweet, but by thunder is that dress hideous! Yellows and oranges do not suit Leliana at all. Black and blue on the other hand...

 

 

She would look nice in this little number. Oh yes.

 

Also shouts ORLAIS at me... Which makes it damn perfect for Lels!

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

@Snook

 

The kiss is sweet, but by thunder is that dress hideous! Yellows and oranges do not suit Leliana at all. Black and blue on the other hand...

 

*snip*

 

She would look nice in this little number. Oh yes.

 

I agree, but that's just her vanilla dress she gets in the coronation. Too lazy to change it, and DA:O's dresses are kinda weird no matter what you do. :S

[Basement Cat]

Also shouts ORLAIS at me... Which makes it damn perfect for Lels!

Well, it is Gothic style, which originated in France so... The styles we see in DAI are quite a bit later than Gothic though. The women's dresses at the ball bring the Renaissance to mind while the formal outfit we wear screams Napoleonic style. 

[FiveThreeTen]

Well, she could easily be part Theirin while still being barely related to Alistair. You'd expect there'd be a whole lot of people descended from Calenhad kicking around Fereldan.

I like to think that Leliana's parents are plain ordinary human folks. We know the mother was a servant in service of a noble. I imagine the father being some common soldier or craftsman (a shoemaker or someone working for one would fit nicely).

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I like this one.

 

 

If only. For DA:O and DAI. :S

 

I like to think that Leliana's parents are plain ordinary human folks. We know the mother was a servant in service of a noble. I imagine the father being some common soldier or craftsman (a shoemaker or someone working for one would fit nicely).

 

I think it's possible she's some Orlesian lord's bastard daughter, too. Not unheard of between them and their servants by any means.

 

Maybe Lady Cecile's husband or something, who perhaps died in the rebellion. I guess that would give some more motivation to Cecile looking after her, in a way. It's also implied that, while she was willing to look after her, she never really saw her as a daughter; which also fits her being Cecile's husband's bastard.

[Serza]

Well, it is Gothic style, which originated in France so... The styles we see in DAI are quite a bit later than Gothic though. The women's dresses at the ball bring the Renaissance to mind while the formal outfit we wear screams Napoleonic style. 

 

Hmm... Yes, the Inquisition Dress Blues, as I like to call them (I do realize they're red, which I quickly remedy by crafting a blue version for whenever I feel like walking around Val Royeaux in them.) do remind me of Napoleonic uniforms.

 

As for styles, I obviously can't judge the dresses Orlesians wear (Twentieth century onward weaponry? Yes please. Dresses of literally any era? Mythal protect me.) but I've looked at Halamshiral's Winter Palace screenshots, and I dare say I see a lot of Reneissance in the architecture. Although, with all the flashiness, I wouldn't completely deny Baroque involvement. Thing is, Baroque architecture is supposed to be asymmetrical in places, while the Winter Palace appears to be perfectly symmetrical. Well, if my memory serves me right.

 

I've also tried googling Reneissance dresses and how they could look (too lazy to look up in the literature that's probably somewhere around here) and I guess they could look like that-ish...?

[Basement Cat]

I like to think that Leliana's parents are plain ordinary human folks. We know the mother was a servant in service of a noble. I imagine the father being some common soldier or craftsman (a shoemaker or someone working for one would fit nicely).

I prefer to think her father was ordinary too. She was born out of wedlock, sure, but for a common servant like her mother it wouldn't have been that big a deal. Leliana was born in Ferelden and moved to Orlais with her mother and Lady Cecile when the occupation was overthrown. Her father was probably killed during the Ferelden uprising, whether he was a soldier, craftsman, merchant, servant, etc. Rebellions hurt people just like any other war, and it's perfectly possible that he was a nice man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time or got painted as an Orlesian sympathizer because he worked for/traded with them.

 

Leliana doesn't seem to think much about him or she just isn't curious. She barely remembers her mother and maybe she's trying to hold onto those memories rather than wonder about a father she knows nothing about.

 

Leliana never had much of a family life. She had little time with her mother and she has no siblings or other relatives. It would partially explain her tendency to latch onto people like she does. She hungers for affection and she clings to anyone who gives her that.

 

I like to imagine the Warden holding Leliana on their lap while sitting in a rocking chair. I think she'd like that.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Leliana never had much of a family life. She had little time with her mother and she has no siblings or other relatives. It would partially explain her tendency to latch onto people like she does. She hungers for affection and she clings to anyone who gives her that.

 

I like to imagine the Warden holding Leliana on their lap while sitting in a rocking chair. I think she'd like that.

 

Also plays into how easily swayed she is by the actions of other people; she speaks as if Cecile saw her more as a source of entertainment than a daughter. She probably took up a lot of her mother's servant duties. She's been brought up for the whims of others her whole early life. Explains why Marjolaine could twist her into whatever she wanted so easily. Sad, really. The only people who might have seen her as a person is her mother, who died when she was young, and the Warden, who came around when the damage was already done. 

 

That rhyme was unintentional. 

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I guess it's kind of ironic, in retrospect, that my Warden always snaps at her initially for seeing her as an elf more than just a person, when Leliana is actually all too familiar with that kind of door-mat treatment herself. Probably more so, albeit in an entirely different context. Leliana's lived it her whole life, my Warden's only becoming familiar with it now. Huh.

[erikdlan]

I prefer to think her father was ordinary too. She was born out of wedlock, sure, but for a common servant like her mother it wouldn't have been that big a deal. Leliana was born in Ferelden and moved to Orlais with her mother and Lady Cecile when the occupation was overthrown. Her father was probably killed during the Ferelden uprising, whether he was a soldier, craftsman, merchant, servant, etc. Rebellions hurt people just like any other war, and it's perfectly possible that he was a nice man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time or got painted as an Orlesian sympathizer because he worked for/traded with them.
 
Leliana doesn't seem to think much about him or she just isn't curious. She barely remembers her mother and maybe she's trying to hold onto those memories rather than wonder about a father she knows nothing about.
 
Leliana never had much of a family life. She had little time with her mother and she has no siblings or other relatives. It would partially explain her tendency to latch onto people like she does. She hungers for affection and she clings to anyone who gives her that.
 
I like to imagine the Warden holding Leliana on their lap while sitting in a rocking chair. I think she'd like that.

I like the idea of Leli having an ordinary dad. I miss ordinary humans in DA. You can only be a low class elf or dwarf in DA games, not a human of a poor family. Hawke's family was noble, and that was the closer we have been in this games to a human commoner as a pc.

The things you say about her family are sad indeed, but I agree with you Basement Cat. That explains she was so easily manipulated by Marjolaine or Justinia. Somewhere inside her she misses her mom.

I need some positive thoughts now, Leli in that black and blue dress is a good start. And a big Orlesian ball in a palace. But to continue with my line of positive thoughts, just having a beautiful dress and being in a fancy ball isn't just enough. We should add a Hero of Ferelden to dance with her, don't you think?

[Han Shot First]

I head canon that Leliana's father was a common bowman with the Orlesian army, while Leliana's mother was a servant with a good singing voice. 

 

But the theory that her father might have been related to Lady Cecile in some way is an interesting one, and perhaps makes more sense as far as Lady Cecile taking her in. 

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I need some positive thoughts now, Leli in that black and blue dress is a good start. And a big Orlesian ball in a palace. But to continue with my line of positive thoughts, just having a beautiful dress and being in a fancy ball isn't just enough. We should add a Hero of Ferelden to dance with her, don't you think?

 

Maybe that's how they'll reunite; some Orlesian party post-DA:I, a fully-masked stranger starts talking to Leliana in a weird, slightly fake-sounding foreign accent...and then to her great shock she realizes it's the Hero of Ferelden messing with her. 

 

she then unmasks them and you know what happens next. :S

 

But the theory that her father might have been related to Lady Cecile in some way is an interesting one, and perhaps makes more sense as far as Lady Cecile taking her in. 

 

It's probably my favourite theory. It doesn't really sound like Cecile had any natural born children of her own, so perhaps she wanted to take Leliana in as that...but could never quite see her as such, because she's a walking monument to her late husband's infidelity. 

 

Like, a slightly less antagonistic Catelyn Stark/Jon Snow (ASOIAF) or something.

[Basement Cat]

If you refuse to let Leliana come along the first time she talks to you in DAO, she tries her luck again later. Alistair's intervention gives us the immortal line, but the acceptance line for the Warden makes Alistair sound like a child who is begging for a puppy and the Warden like a put upon parent. You can tell Leliana is thinking the same thing when she crosses her arms. 

 

 

Edit: watch it with the cc on. 'deputy stab kill kill' *snerk*

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

If you refuse to let Leliana come along the first time she talks to you in DAO, she tries her luck again later. Alistair's intervention gives us the immortal line, but the acceptance line for the Warden makes Alistair sound like a child who is begging for a puppy and the Warden like a put upon parent. You can tell Leliana is thinking the same thing when she crosses her arms. 

 

 

Edit: watch it with the cc on. 'deputy stab kill kill' *snerk*

 

I actually do this every single playthrough with my Warden. She was still all grumpy and broody around then, and didn't have a great first impression with Chantry folk, so she wasn't particularly eager to take her along at first.

 

It opens up the option to ask around Lothering about her before recruiting her, as well. Gives an interesting first impression of her. Like the bartender saying how she'd come down to the tavern every now and again, and just sip her wine while gazing sadly out the window. Or the Templar guy in the Chantry talking about how he could tell her past life wasn't a happy one, but how her faith seems to be sincere despite that. I actually think it works as a much better introduction to her character to deny her request the first time.

[Basement Cat]

@Snook

Interesting that there are two occasions to turn down Leliana: when she is recruited and when the romance is 'consummated'. Denying her at first leads to interesting tidbits on both occasions. Mmh...

 

I like to recruit her in the tavern because then we can get to equipping her right away. You don't go fighting Darkspawn in a robe! That reminds me that in Darkspawn Chronicles she is still wearing her Chantry robe and wielding that basic dagger against the Archdemon... I guess Alistair didn't do any sidequests and get money for equipment (Morrigan's influence, no doubt). Baby needs protection! And a bow!

 

Edit: Completing the Golems DLC utterly breaks the game if you sell the mace you get for beating it on nightmare. Buy everything!