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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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Mommy!Leliana sure is an enigma. :P

 

Too bad we'll probably never see that side of her. But she sure seems to feel good around children.

 

I think it's probably because she either never loved anyone that much (no Romance) or her lover is either another woman, or a pretty much sterile man - because we all know that Wardens can't really have kids.

 

Maybe adoption... Would be sweet to see a biological kid, but to this day, Morrigan remains the only Origins romance to produce a kid.

Hmm. That was kind of... weird, to say it like that.


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I just don't think she has any interest in raising children. Period.

 

Alistair is a Warden, so the likelihood of him fathering children was slim to begin with (and non-existent with a Warden lover). Zevran's kind of busy with the Crows.


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I don't think it's a lack of interest but more like the fear that she could bring harm to her children with her position as Left Hand/Spymaster. She does say she has enemies of her own and regardless whether she remains Spymaster or becomes Divine she is still a dangerous person with many enemies.

 

Leliana is already with a shattered psyche in Inquisition (though I think she has been emotionally frail ever since Marjolaine's betrayal), she has lost all those she has cared for, except the Warden and imagine how devastated she would be if any harm came to her child or she lost him/her as well. I don't think Leli would be able to bear it. Hell, she seems deeply concerned even when Kieran gets lost in the Fade.

 

In a way, Leliana becoming a mother can bring both good and harm to her. She can be a caring and loving mother but also very paranoid and protective, perhaps even too much. It's a good thing the Warden might be there to balance all that.


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Mommy!Leliana sure is an enigma. :P

Too bad we'll probably never see that side of her. But she sure seems to feel good around children.

Morrigan did tell Leliana to stay away from Kieran because she's a bad influence.
Not sure about mommy Leliana raising little kiddos but I'd like to imagine the Warden and Leliana raising nug babies and mabari puppies for starters before moving on to those little wailing and squealing nightmares. A family of nugs and furkids. What can possibly go wrong? :D

Weekes mentioned something about Leliana as the Divine changing those celibacy rules right? Mommy Leliana is possible, I guess, assuming the Warden succeeded in curing himself of the Taint. If not, think she'll adopt her agents' kids if they died on the field?

Aaaand? A Divine with kids? The scandal! Try adding that to a list of drastic reforms she's made. A Blight, a corrupt magister, wars, sweeping Chantry reforms? Dragon Age has got to be the most interesting era in Thedas.

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I just don't think she has any interest in raising children. Period.

Alistair is a Warden, so the likelihood of him fathering children was slim to begin with (and non-existent with a Warden lover). Zevran's kind of busy with the Crows.

A Warden who slept with Morrigan and did not undergo the DR gets a normal "old-god free" Kieran. Sorcery? Sheer luck?

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Considering Fiona got Alistair from Maric, it's not impossible.
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Morrigan did tell Leliana to stay away from Kieran because she's a bad influence.
Not sure about mommy Leliana raising little kiddos but I'd like to imagine the Warden and Leliana raising nug babies and mabari puppies for starters before moving on to those little wailing and squealing nightmares. A family of nugs and furkids. What can possibly go wrong? :D

Weekes mentioned something about Leliana as the Divine changing those celibacy rules right? Mommy Leliana is possible, I guess, assuming the Warden succeeded in curing himself of the Taint. If not, think she'll adopt her agents' kids if they died on the field?

Aaaand? A Divine with kids? The scandal! Try adding that to a list of drastic reforms she's made. A Blight, a corrupt magister, wars, sweeping Chantry reforms? Dragon Age has got to be the most interesting era in Thedas.

 

Yes, Weekes has said that Leliana changes the rules so the Divine can get married, so I think mommy Leliana is more possible if she's Divine.

 

I mean, Leliana is all for mage freedom and since magic in Thedas is known to help with conceiving children I'm not surprised if Leliana asks them for help. The mages do owe her their freedom so I doubt they'd hesitate with helping her and the Warden have a child, with Leliana being late 30s by the time she is Divine and the Warden having low fertility.

 

Either way, the writers are leaving the part of reproduction in romances entirely to headcanon/fanfiction.


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Still, with all the reforms she's bringing in to the Chantry I doubt she'll have time for children, not to mention having a child at her age has its dangers as well.

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Oh haaaai guys. I braved through Tumblr once more and I found this interesting piece regarding Leliana taken from the upcoming World of Thedas vol. 2. If y'all don't wanna read it before it gets into your hands then be warned: It's spoilery.

http://deadlymaelstr...of-thedas-vol-2

S'cuse me while I go to a corner and gleefully read through these new found facts. *rubs hands together*
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Either way, the writers are leaving the part of reproduction in romances entirely to headcanon/fanfiction.


figures that the few things they opt to leave for headcanon are the ones that don't matter to me personally at all

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Leliana is probably too old to have children by the time the events of DA:I end. 



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probably late 30's by then so would disagree with that.  

 

And besides 'human'  in weird and whacky Thedas does not mean automatically mean 'human' on our humdrum planet Earth



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My own great grand mother had my grandmother at 45. Of course it wasn't the norm, but women having children past their forties happened far more often in the past than people might think. Given my own elders account of how women "wearing the black", aka when women were suddenly considered too "old" (sometimes as soon as late 30s) to wear bright colors could found themselves pregnant.

It was even more common after major conflicts, because there were lots of widows who remarried (speaking from a western-european perspective here).

 

 

But all these children headcanons don't really interest me anyway.

 

Leliana will still be decent with the murder-knife as a granny though. Of that I'm certain.



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Yes, Weekes has said that Leliana changes the rules so the Divine can get married, so I think mommy Leliana is more possible if she's Divine.

I mean, Leliana is all for mage freedom and since magic in Thedas is known to help with conceiving children I'm not surprised if Leliana asks them for help. The mages do owe her their freedom so I doubt they'd hesitate with helping her and the Warden have a child, with Leliana being late 30s by the time she is Divine and the Warden having low fertility.

Either way, the writers are leaving the part of reproduction in romances entirely to headcanon/fanfiction.

But this are just words from weekes regarding leliana, just hopes that it turns to something concrete
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Either way, the writers are leaving the part of reproduction in romances entirely to headcanon/fanfiction.

 

Which is perfectly fair for a bisexual romance option. 


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probably late 30's by then so would disagree with that.  

 

 

She is late 30s at the star of DA:I, but the game's events play out over the course of 3 or 4 years. By the time it ends Leliana will be over 40.

 

That's too old to be having children in a setting that doesn't have modern medicine, and where probably some percentage of women die in childbirth.

 

Also the Warden is practically sterile. While Grey Wardens can occasionally have children, it is exceedingly rare.



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probably late 30's by then so would disagree with that.  

 

 

She is late 30s at the star of DA:I, but the game's events play out over the course of 3 or 4 years. By the time it ends Leliana will be over 40.

 

That's too old to be having children in a setting that doesn't have modern medicine, and where probably some percentage of women die in childbirth.

 

Also the Warden is practically sterile. While Grey Wardens can occasionally have children, it is exceedingly rare.



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Moar art. :3

 

IDGXJ4x.jpg

 

http://ankalime.tumb...ll-zevrans-mask

http://higheverhound...lutter-when-you

http://me5gold.tumbl...y-lelianas-song


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Oh haaaai guys. I braved through Tumblr once more and I found this interesting piece regarding Leliana taken from the upcoming World of Thedas vol. 2. If y'all don't wanna read it before it gets into your hands then be warned: It's spoilery.

http://deadlymaelstr...of-thedas-vol-2

S'cuse me while I go to a corner and gleefully read through these new found facts. *rubs hands together*

 

The most interesting detail for me in that, is that it confirms that the events of Leliana's Song were an embellishment. 

 

I think the version of that story she told to the Warden is the correct one.

 

Spoiler


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Something I just realized: if you ally with the mages, you get a letter from sketch who is part of the Mage rebellion. Does that mean sketch dies if you side with the Templars???

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My God that pic of sleepy Leliana just waking up :wub:

 

 

My Cousland when pushed by both beauties in DAO chose Morrigan over Leliana but there are times that my Warden while sitting on a nice Antivan beach thinks of Leliana and thinks 'what if I chose her....'

 

 (my headcanon is he found the Calling Cure and is living it up in Antiva....Morrigan is going to hit the roof when she finds out :ph34r:)


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After her torture, perhaps she can't have children anymore?



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Moar art. :3
 
IDGXJ4x.jpg
 
http://ankalime.tumb...ll-zevrans-mask
http://higheverhound...lutter-when-you
http://me5gold.tumbl...y-lelianas-song


Oh, ouch, that last one hit me right in the feels.
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The most interesting detail for me in that, is that it confirms that the events of Leliana's Song were an embellishment.

I think the version of that story she told to the Warden is the correct one.

Spoiler

Not only that. Who'd knew she was once a sheltered and cheerful girl? :D Also, the hunting part confirms my theory that she's not always the ruthless princess stabbity people make her out to be. To see her dramatic personality change after Marjolaine's betrayal is quite something, I'll give you that.

The DLC came out way after DAO. Figured the devs embellished it a little to make it more interesting for the players. Either that or Leliana is making it up as she goes.
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Something I just realized: if you ally with the mages, you get a letter from sketch who is part of the Mage rebellion. Does that mean sketch dies if you side with the Templars???


Nobody confirmed it yet. Going into hiding for so long, I daresay Sketch is pretty skilled avoiding the Templars. I doubt he'd die just like that if we support the Templars. But then, he's coordinating closely with Fiona during the events of DAI so I'm not sure whether he followed Fiona in joining forces with Corypheus. Sketch strikes me as the pacifist kind and would rather run than fight. So there's that. It's just my opinion anyway.