I'd like to see Victoria assassinated and replaced.
I immensely dislike the notion of that subplot.
Perhaps actually on her coronation.
Huh.
There you go Bioware.
I gave you a DLC
If that happens I'll be glad to have swapped out Cassandra for Leliana as my Divine choice. I can't have anything bad happening to Cass.
If that happens I'll be glad to have swapped out Cassandra for Leliana as my Divine choice. I can't have anything bad happening to Cass.
I suspect the average Theodosian would blame the Warden's misdeeds on Corypheus. Which isn't wrong.
I can see people blaming both, which technically wouldn't be wrong either, since Clarel willingly allied herself with a suspicious Tevinter mage.
Amusingly, I was looking at the little "Here ye! Here ye!" letter in Skyhold that gets updated when you complete a main story quest. After allying with the Wardens following Here Lies the Abyss, the statement was that the Grey Wardens were focused on their own solutions to the current crisis and the Inquisition had "convened" with the order at Adamant to strike an alliance.
Yes, "convened" is one way to put it. 
This is pretty much Warder in a nutshell right now:
Amusingly, I was looking at the little "Here ye! Here ye!" letter in Skyhold that gets updated when you complete a main story quest. After allying with the Wardens following Here Lies the Abyss, the statement was that the Grey Wardens were focused on their own solutions to the current crisis and the Inquisition had "convened" with the order at Adamant to strike an alliance.
Yes, "convened" is one way to put it.
All the more reason to support Leliana as Divine as well. She's smart enough to understand that the Wardens are needed if Thedas is to survive, and she's reasonable enough to recognize that one screw-up, as heinous as it was, doesn't automatically invalidate a thousand years of devoted service that is probably the only reason anyone still lives to criticize them.
I'd like to see Victoria assassinated and replaced.
I immensely dislike the notion of that subplot.
Perhaps actually on her coronation.
Huh.
There you go Bioware.
I gave you a DLC
It only makes sense that something like this could occur. There would be factions that would be disgruntled with all three choices for divine as well as with the fact that the Inquisition played a role in her ascension to such a position. And it would be nice to have a DLC that is an actual continuation of the main game.
I would have to swap out Cass for either Leliana or Vivienne. There is no way I'm letting her get assassinated. (Though I am leaning more towards Leliana. Sorry Leliana thread. )
I think that the Wardens will just spin the whole Adamant fiasco as being the Orlesian Wardens going rogue and having not been officially sanctioned by Weisshaupt (which is apparently true), which is presumably the same spin they used two centuries earlier after Sophia Dryden's failed rebellion got them kicked out of Ferelden?
From what we can tell, no-one outside Orlais knew what they were upto, nor were any other chapters of the Wardens involved?
Its true who knows if they even contacted the First Warden about it. I would hope so "Hey uh yeah all of us down south are all hearing the calling... even new initiates..."
At the same time though I wonder how many people would start calling bull on that explanation even if it is technically true. Especially for those who were attacked by the effected wardens. Luckily only the inner circle of the Inquisition truly know that Wardens helped Corypheus kill Justinia.
All of the south however were effected so the Orlesian chapter and Ferelden Chapter (who knows how many after 10 years.) were hit and the Commander of the Grey in Orlais called for both Ferelden and Orlais to meet up at Adamant for this. Which the first warden probably would've said NO! to if he/she was actually notified about it.
But Weisshaupt has their own problems afterwards, especially the rumors of a civil war with the southern wardens and northern ones if you let the wardens stick around and help.
I really wonder how vast Corypheus/nightmare demon's influence was in the south. Like what was the radius of the entire thing if there even was one. Since the Hero of Ferelden (If alive.) seemed to not be effected by it, or maybe they were and just couldn't really do anything so far west. Definitely wouldn't leave that in a letter to the Inquisitor or Leliana.
All of the south however were effected so the Orlesian chapter and Ferelden Chapter (who knows how many after 10 years.) were hit and the Commander of the Grey in Orlais called for both Ferelden and Orlais to meet up at Adamant for this. Which the first warden probably would've said NO! to if he/she was actually notified about it.
But Weisshaupt has their own problems afterwards, especially the rumors of a civil war with the southern wardens and northern ones if you let the wardens stick around and help.
I really wonder how vast Corypheus/nightmare demon's influence was in the south. Like what was the radius of the entire thing if there even was one. Since the Hero of Ferelden (If alive.) seemed to not be effected by it, or maybe they were and just couldn't really do anything so far west. Definitely wouldn't leave that in a letter to the Inquisitor or Leliana.
Does the game ever specify that it's the entire South though, I hear that often but I can't really find anything concrete about it?
All we're told by the Warden-Ally is that "Every Warden in Orlais began to hear the Calling", while Leliana mentions that al the Ferelden Wardens have disappeared... nothing actually confirms that those two facts are indeed related at all?
If the Orlesians are freaking out about hearing the Calling and they can't escape from it by running cross the border, for all we know, the Ferelden Wardens might have simply gone dark to avoid getting noticed by whatever caused it and being affected as well? Furthermore, the Free Marches are right beside both Orlais and Ferelden and we hear not a peep from them that suggests they've been affected?
While Morrigan refers to the "Southern Wardens" in the epilogue, she could be referring to Orlais having the largest contingent of any Grey Wardens by far of all the southern nation, which does make them the bulk of the order in the South? What happened in Adamant would affect the future of the Order in the region, even if the various individual chapter of each nation's Wardens were not involved in what went on there?
But I dunno, the game is annoying vague on how far the entire False Calling spread and whether it was just an Orlesian phenomenon?
It only makes sense that something like this could occur. There would be factions that would be disgruntled with all three choices for divine as well as with the fact that the Inquisition played a role in her ascension to such a position. And it would be nice to have a DLC that is an actual continuation of the main game.
I would have to swap out Cass for either Leliana or Vivienne. There is no way I'm letting her get assassinated. (Though I am leaning more towards Leliana. Sorry Leliana thread.
On a more serious note I do hope we get our Coronation DLC eventually, add in a botched assasination attempt (no you don't get your wish, heretic) and let us explore the rest of Val Royeaux. 
As for the wardens, the impression I've had is that the game is only referring to the Orlesian ones, and this has been bugging me for some time. It begs the question what the ferelden ones have been up to during DAI, especially so considering the game apparantly spans over mutiple years. Hopefully this is something they'll address aswell, maybe have them involved in the rumored darkspawn dlc?
For my story I'll just say the Fereldan Wardens were at a huge party thrown by King Alistair that lasted months...nay years
I really want a Coronation DLC now....visiting more of Orlais, politics and intrigue in the Chantry, corrupting some lay sisters 
and thwarting a plot to over throw my Divine Leliana and revealing the chief plotter to be ....gasp....VIVIENNE
For my story I'll just say the Fereldan Wardens were at a huge party thrown by King Alistair that lasted months...nay years
I really want a Coronation DLC now....visiting more of Orlais, politics and intrigue in the Chantry, corrupting some lay sisters
Leliana: Why did you go missing for all that time, we thought you were all dead?!
Nathaniel: Cheese and ale. We had this big feast to see the Hero of Ferelden off, needed to sleep it off and deal with the grog-gut... and wait for Oghren to get out of the john, he takes forever and Vigil's Keep only has one bathroom?
I'd love to see more of Val Royeaux, would be amazing to see the Grand Cathedral or the White Spire in-game?
As for Vivienne becoming a future antagonist, I'm totally onboard with that because her intelligence and cunning would make her really fun and formidable opponent to go up against? Don't make her a bad guy or anything, just someone we end up clashing with because of opposing goals?
Another reason I miss the friendship/rivalry system from DA2, because rivaling her would be a lot of fun?
On a more serious note I do hope we get our Coronation DLC eventually, add in a botched assasination attempt (no you don't get your wish, heretic) and let us explore the rest of Val Royeaux.
As for the wardens, the impression I've had is that the game is only referring to the Orlesian ones, and this has been bugging me for some time. It begs the question what the ferelden ones have been up to during DAI, especially so considering the game apparantly spans over mutiple years. Hopefully this is something they'll address aswell, maybe have them involved in the rumored darkspawn dlc?
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Regarding the Ferelden grey wardens, does Alistair hear the calling if you keep him as one? I haven't done a play through yet with him as a grey warden. He has been but a corpse surrounding by cheese wheels in all of mine so far. (Yes, the first one of those that I came I across, I did assume that it was my drunken Alsitairs cameo.
Yes he does. Like Stroud and Loghain.
Yes he does. Like Stroud and Loghain.
Don't judge me for my blonde moment, please.
No judging here. Given all the theories about Alistair magical Theirin dragon blood which may or may not make him immune to the taint (and consequently, the calling) in the future like his mom, it's a fair question.
Mmh, if blondes have specific kind of moments whats a redhead, brunette, greyhair moment? 
I only generalize things about Virgos myself
And leave the narrative as it sits?On a more serious note I do hope we get our Coronation DLC eventually, add in a botched assasination attempt
And leave the narrative as it sits?
No.
The Divine dying and the Inquisition being disbanded leaves the series with plenty of fertile soil to revisit the south.
We don't need to revisit the south anytime soon
We don't need to revisit the south anytime soon
Grandest cities, greatest warriors, and it has much left to be uncovered.
Orzammar and Tevinter have awesome architecture of their own, Orlais isn't all that impressive?
Chevaliers might have good training, but put them up against the Dwarves and the Anderfel Wardens who fight Darkspawn on a regular basis? Or the Qunari? It's fair to say that they haven't had a good skirmish in centuries to test their mettle, instead choosing to put their boot down on much weaker foes... and altogether makes me question whether they are still as good as they actually claim to be?
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