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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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Unless you're mixing the two of us up. Truth is, we're both men, and truth is, you might mistake both of us for women every now and then...
 


This still happens? I mean, I know Jon Snow is pretty and all, but come on. :lol:


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It only shows ps3 statistics.

 

As another note, of all DA:O PS3 users the 72.3% completed Ostagar main quest and only the 32% finished the Landsmeet. Overall not many PS3 players bothered to get a romance/sleep with one.

I wonder how the percentages are for PC and Xbox.

 

The data Gaider showed up was counting with all versions of the game most likely. 

 

 

When Leliana is telling the Inquisitor about what she would like to do as Divine, she says your alliance with the mages was a good start towards that goal.

But what does she say if you've conscripted them?

 

I don't remember the exact words, but right after conscripting them she doesn't seems happy about it.


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Darn those romantic darkspawn. 

 

 

 

I really want to play it but I didn't yet, waiting for it to end so i can play all chapters in a row. I hate cliffhangers.

 

Oh, your feels are going to suffer... I really suggest it.

 

Forget cliffhangers, this stuff is just awesome! Although there is a SIGNIFICANT one now in Ep4. Ugh I want Ep5. Anyway, back on topic!

 

This still happens? I mean, I know Jon Snow is pretty and all, but come on. :lol:

 

It just happened to me, man... I've been mistaken for a woman. Gotta admit, it's not that hard, since pretty much the majority of my characters in games are women... and I've Max as my avatar. I'm as dudebro-ey as they come, though. Hey, I even have a horrible attempt at a beard! :D


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Note that the achievements are given for sleeping with the LI. Which is a lot easier for Zev and Morrigan than Leliana and Alistair

 

Yeah, I agree.

 

I mean, many people love Zev and all, I do too, but as far as male romances go Alistair is more popular, it doesn't make sense for him to have the least romance achivements.

 

Either way, Kukuru posted above that only a small percentage completed the game so I don't think we should depend a lot on the PS3 achievements. :)

 

I was honestly surprised when Gaider said Leliana is the most popular, I always expected her and Morrigan to be tied as far as statistics go. But I guess Leliana has the advantage because she is available to both genders and both sides of the romance are very well written.


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Oh, your feels are going to suffer... I really suggest it.

 

Forget cliffhangers, this stuff is just awesome! Although there is a SIGNIFICANT one now in Ep4. Ugh I want Ep5. Anyway, back on topic!

 

 

It just happened to me, man... I've been mistaken for a woman. Gotta admit, it's not that hard, since pretty much the majority of my characters in games are women... and I've Max as my avatar. I'm as dudebro-ey as they come, though. Hey, I even have a horrible attempt at a beard! :D

I have it downloaded, just waiting for September for the last chapter. I must be strong and not fall in the temptation again, i already had a bad time with The Walking Dead games. Those cliffhangers killed me.

 

If it makes you feel better, i'm always mistaken for a dude XD

 

 

We need more Leli's screenshots:

 

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I don't really understand why Leliana wanted to sugarcoat what she does in the beginning of DAI.

"- My job involves a degree of..

- She is our spymaster.

- Yes. Tactifully put, Cassandra."

Origins Leliana was more likely to be shy about the darker side of her life, but not our fearsome spymaster.
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I don't really understand why Leliana wanted to sugarcoat what she does in the beginning of DAI.

"- My job involves a degree of..

- She is our spymaster.

- Yes. Tactifully put, Cassandra."

Origins Leliana was more likely to be shy about the darker side of her life, but not our fearsome spymaster.

Her whole job is about subtlety and subterfuge. Cass just calls a spade a spade. ;)

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Even if they didn't have a lot of scenes together I really loved Cassandra and Leliana's interactions. I love how Leliana is all about subtlety and stealth and Cass is all no-nonsense and very blunt.

 

They seem to disagree a lot, but it's obvious when things get very dire they make an excellent team. The beginning of the Inquisition at Haven is proof of this, It wouldn't exist without either of them.

 

Yet, even though after the Inquisitor, they are the ones who have the final word, the Inquisition didn't feel like giving them the courtesy of their own private quarters...Cullen, Vivienne, Sera, members who are below them in rank have their own rooms while Cass is confined to sleep right above the blacksmith forge and Leliana just a few feet away from her working desk. In bed rolls, not an actual bed... #WTF No wonder they constantly want to stab someone.

 

Either they don't care about luxury or the Inquisitor couldn't find time to call a meeting concerning the senior Inquisition members' sleeping arrangements.  :wacko:


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Speaking of opposites, I love Leliana and Josie's friendship.
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Yet, even though after the Inquisitor, they are the ones who have the final word, the Inquisition didn't feel like giving them the courtesy of their own private quarters...Cullen, Vivienne, Sera, members who are below them in rank have their own rooms while Cass is confined to sleep right above the blacksmith forge and Leliana just a few feet away from her working desk. In bed rolls, not an actual bed... #WTF No wonder they constantly want to stab someone.

 

Either they don't care about luxury or the Inquisitor couldn't find time to call a meeting concerning the senior Inquisition members' sleeping arrangements.  :wacko:

 

I can imagine both of them trying to refuse a finer accommodation, saying it would be a waste of the Inquisition's resources because they would be too busy to use it. Of course the Inquisitor would give it to them anyway :P Maybe the small rooms on the first floor of the garden area? You can even find a bow in one of them.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Speaking of opposites, I love Leliana and Josie's friendship.

 

I love Leliana and Josie's everything.


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I like this card:

 

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http://everythinginh...st/125262755689

 

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Here's a screenshot of my Quizzy and Leliana at Valence:

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As I mentioned in Other threads, I store my screengrabs in Google Drive, and I noticed that it keeps automatically generating collages and animations. Here's one of Leliana...

 

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So I replayed DAO with male Surana. I must say that a hardened Leliana is to me, better than Morrigan. For context, previously I would "game" the approval system for my character to be romantically involved with Morrigan.

 

This time around, I did not "game" the system and Morrigan is not very fond of me. She hated the decision to save Redcliffe, wanted to use the Anvil of the Void, was okay with Caladrius taking City Elves away, did not want to save the mages, etc. Then there was the dark ritual and her running off. There was too much disagreement and it was rocky to say the least.

 

But Leliana ? Apart from the initial visions which is resolved in a dialogue or two, she was great. Surana and her got along quite well and the interactions between them did not feel forced or "gamed". Then when she was hardened, Leliana still remained the same but more pragmatic.

 

It was then that Leliana became my male Warden's one true love.

 

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^ Glad you enjoyed the romance. I think Leliana works really well with an elf Warden, imo it felt a lot more natural with my Mahariel than Cousland in my playthrough.

 

Even if my Warden and Morrigan became really good friends by the end of Origins, I don't think there was ever a moment where I gained approval from her for my actions. She disapproved of everything I did until her personal quest and after that her approval points were static. At best she is neutral regarding your decisions, at worst she -10 disapproves of every little decision.



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earlier that day…

 

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I imagine that Zevran would also be concerned about Thedas's Elves' sudden propensity not to wear proper footwear as of DA2. He rather liked his Antivan boots, as I recall...


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I imagine that Zevran would also be concerned about Thedas's Elves' sudden propensity not to wear proper footwear as of DA2. He rather liked his Antivan boots, as I recall...

 

The Theodosian Elves' stance on footwear is weird.

 

On one hand you have the God of Rebellion not interested in wearing it. On the other hand you have Abelas who does wear it.

 

I think Solas is simply being a hipster.


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The Theodosian Elves' stance on footwear is weird.

 

On one hand you have the God of Rebellion not interested in wearing it. On the other hand you have Abelas who does wear it.

 

I think Solas is simply being a hipster.

Well Abelas appears to have had his body dipped in molten metal so I'm not sure he counts... It seems that pretty much all of the non-ancient elves now do the exposed toe thing, except for Sera (or the Inquisitor if you dress them in cross-race armour.) No wonder Leliana doesn't sing Dalish songs anymore. I bet she's gone right off them... ;)


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Well Abelas appears to have had his body dipped in molten metal so I'm not sure he counts... It seems that pretty much all of the non-ancient elves now do the exposed toe thing, except for Sera (or the Inquisitor if you dress them in cross-race armour.) No wonder Leliana doesn't sing Dalish songs anymore. I bet she's gone right off them... ;)

 

Is there any reason why Elves in Thedas go barefoot ? The lore does not seem to explain it.



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Is there any reason why Elves in Thedas go barefoot ? The lore does not seem to explain it.

I think it was just a design decision they took when they "reimagined" the elves in DA2, and they seem to have stuck with it despite toning down some of those changes in Inquisition. I'm not aware of any lore about it, but maybe someone will correct me...

 

Edit: I think it's supposed to make them look like they are connected with nature or something. To me it just looks like they will get cold feet in winter and people will stab spears at their toes when they are in combat... ;)


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I think it was just a design decision they took when they "reimagined" the elves in DA2, and they seem to have stuck with it despite toning down some of those changes in Inquisition. I'm not aware of any lore about it, but maybe someone will correct me...

 

Edit: I think it's supposed to make them look like they are connected with nature or something. To me it just looks like they will get cold feet in winter and people will stab spears at their toes when they are in combat... ;)

 

Exactly. Now moving around barefoot is not impossible. I am from Southeast Asia and I did it when I was younger during training for cross country events. My family could not afford fancy running shoes back then. I have also seen long distance runners with Southeast Asian aboriginal origins who run barefoot or wrap some sort of cloth around their middle part of their foot and do it. Even my parents, who are both long distance runners themselves, ran barefoot when they were young, back in the 70s. Mostly due to financial constraints.

 

So it is not impossible. The problem is, as you have stated is that barefoot movement results in an epic fail when you do it in a cold winter environment or in a combat situation.

 

I can understand if ancient Elves used some form of ornate slippers or ornate sandals to move around. Personally that would make the most sense given the level of design we see in Abelas' armor, in Temple of Mythal and so on.



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Imo, the elves' design in DA2 was terrabad. I love the game and all, but apart from Merrill, Fenris and Orsino all the other NPC elves looked odd.

 

I'm glad my Warden didn't have a cameo in DA2, oh the horror...And I'd be fine with him not showing up in Inquisition since the elf designs, particularly the male ones, still need polishing.

 

I get it, elves are lithe and slim and all that, but it's funny how all of them are stick thin, hell the females look much more well-fed. And it's even more interesting with Solas and Sera since they have the same weight and height as the human NPCs...Guess elf Quizzy is an exception.


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When wearing her own clothes Sera is actually thinner than the standard human model. When you put the Qunari DLC armour on her,she magically gains bulk...