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[LadyStoneheart]

Saw this on reddit and seemed pretty interesting regarding a potential epilogue involving her

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https://www.reddit.c...liana_epilouge/

 

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Ohhh this is very interesting! She's basically a child of the Stone now

I have an undead!Leliana in my AssQuisitor playthrough (which I'll probably never finish), now I'm wondering what happens if she also becomes Divine.

[N7_Heartfire]

Well, guess that means all loose ends are tied with Leliana. Her character has come full circle.

 

And I'm glad her romance with the HOF is concluded for both sides, Divine or Spymaster. I gotta hand it to Weekes and Sheryl, they really did it well. You can see they really took some time to conclude the romance in a nice way and stayed true to what they said about Leliana's romance on twitter after Inquisition released.

 

Some thought they were just joking about Divine Leliana marrying the Warden or ever finishing her romance. They could've easily not bothered at all with it saying it would be unfair to Morrigan/Alistair/Zevran romancers or even given us a half-assed codex entry about the HOF in the DLC.

 

And I love how they expanded on the advisers' relationship in the DLC. It's canon. Leliana/Cullen/Josie broOTP FTW. It's even more hilarious how if she's Divine she gets pissed at them for calling her Most Holy. The Inquisitor can even troll her about it...

[Todrazok]

Well said, her story is done. I don't think we'll be seeing her in DA4, and I wouldn't want that either.

 

From the slide I got mentioning that Leliana was grooming successors for the dangers yet to come, I got the impression that this was a way for Bioware to possibly expand upon Harding as a companion/advisor figure in the next game. 

[Barquiel]

I might have missed something, but did the HOF find a cure for the calling...is this mentioned somewhere? Other than that, I liked Leliana's content (romanced/divine for me)

[N7_Heartfire]

Nope, not a thing about the cure. Weird.

 

Well said, her story is done. I don't think we'll be seeing her in DA4, and I wouldn't want that either.

 

From the slide I got mentioning that Leliana was grooming successors for the dangers yet to come, I got the impression that this was a way for Bioware to possibly expand upon Harding as a companion/advisor figure in the next game. 

 

I can definitely see Harding as a companion in the next game.

 

While I doubt we'll see Cass and Leliana playing an active role in DAIV, I'm pretty sure we'll have one companion who'll be secretly working and sharing intel with Quizzy/Cass/Leliana. All three of them seem pretty warmed up about finding Solas. I wouldn't mind seeing the Inquisitor as an important NPC in the next game as well.

[YourFunnyUncle]

I can definitely see Harding as a companion in the next game.

Well she's got a song now...
 

[Basement Cat]

Hee! Leliana and her nugs... (minor spoilers)

 

 

[LadyStoneheart]

Ha! I just played this part

I'm not even halfway through but so far I'm loving this DLC. I'll save further judgment for when it's actually over.

 

I don't think I'll ever be able to say "I don't want to see Leliana in future games", but it's nice to know that if she doesn't return she'll have her happy ending.

[Todrazok]

Nope, not a thing about the cure. Weird.

 

 

I can definitely see Harding as a companion in the next game.

 

While I doubt we'll see Cass and Leliana playing an active role in DAIV, I'm pretty sure we'll have one companion who'll be secretly working and sharing intel with Quizzy/Cass/Leliana. All three of them seem pretty warmed up about finding Solas. I wouldn't mind seeing the Inquisitor as an important NPC in the next game as well.

 

Personally I figured Bioware were intending to leave behind the South and most of it's characters behind when they move on to the North, with the exception of a few characters that make sense. Dorian in particular comes to mind for me. As such I was always skeptical to the people wanting Harding as a companion, and yet now it's very plausible. 

 

I'm definitely enjoying it too, here's hoping the Inquisitor will be some kind of advisor to the next PC .

[N7_Heartfire]

http://blog.bioware....ge-inquisition/

If you wandered into the Writer’s Pit while Inquisition was in full swing, you probably would’ve seen seven writers (and one editor) with headphones on, eyes fixed on monitors, typing furiously. Most of the writing happens when we can shut out the rest of the world and immerse ourselves fully in the story and characters. For many of us, this requires music. Often the music we listen to informs and even inspires what we write.

So, what was coming through those headphones when we wrote Dragon Age: Inquisition?

 

Sheryl Chee writer of Blackwall and Leliana

 

My characters’ voices don’t really establish themselves firmly until I’ve written one or two conversations for them. While I often have a good idea of their arc and personality, how they express themselves usually takes some poking around.

Music often helps get me into the right mindset, so when I set out in the early stages of planning and writing a character, I begin by building a playlist that evokes a certain mood. For instance, Leliana’s playlist is sweetly melancholic, with occasional moments of self-indulgent gloom and anger. Though it starts off with A Perfect Circle’s “The Noose,” it’s otherwise dominated by female voices like Suzanne Vega, Tori Amos, Anna Ternheim, Laura Veirs, Poe, and iamamiwhoami.

Blackwall was a bit of a special snowflake, and I ended up with two separate playlists by the time Inquisitionreached its final stages. From the start I knew that I needed a classic rock playlist for a certain furious energy that I find reflected in songs by Cream, Rush, and Led Zeppelin. His second playlist, on the other hand, was extremely eclectic, running a gamut of genres from folksy Americana to electronica. These songs, chosen mainly for their lyrics, came from artists including The Civil Wars, Kate Bush, Grizzly Bear, and Blaqk Audio, and were used as inspiration for the writing of his personal story.

For wildernesses and codex entries, I would usually listen to whatever fit my mood at the time. However, generally the more work I had to get done and the less time I had to do it in, the louder and faster the music got. There was a phase when I was listening to nothing but electronic body music. Then there was the time I was writing combat barks for Multiplayer. That was done to “Timber,” by Pitbull and Ke$ha on repeat.

It got the job done.

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Interesting...

[ThePhoenixKing]

"Love is the Maker's best gift and is infinite." + Uses Andraste as an example.

 

#Lelianabestdivineforever

 

Hell yeah!

 

Hee! Leliana and her nugs... (minor spoilers)

 

 

 

On the subject of Leliana and nugs, if you find the Nug King in The Descent, does she have a reaction at all?

[introverted_assassin]

*smirk* some form of hip hop influenced a part of this game I see.

I've been watching Trepasser on YT. Bae looks ridiculous with that hat on. I doubt I would have ever saw her in it in any of my playthroughs because I never made her Divine.

[ThePhoenixKing]

*smirk* some form of hip hop influenced a part of this game I see.

I've been watching Trepasser on YT. Bae looks ridiculous with that hat on. I doubt I would have ever saw her in it in any of my playthroughs because I never made her Divine.

 

To be fair, the Divine's headpiece is like mage hats: it's going to look awful, no matter who's wearing it. Not even Leliana can redeem such a horrid article of clothing, and she could make a burlap sack look good.

 

Just finally finished updating my Origins novelization The Grey Path, after a bit of a struggle. Not so much Leliana this time around, but she and the Warden have a few moments. Hope you enjoy! Here's a sample:

 

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Leliana turned away from him, arms crossed beneath her breasts, and Sagramor timidly reached out to her, worried at this sudden melancholy. “Sagramor?” she whispered, his name a plea. “Have you ever made a mistake so terrible you’d do anything to change it?”

 

https://www.fanficti...5/The-Grey-Path

[SgtSteel91]

Thinking about it

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I like that keeping the Inquisition as a peace-keeping force with Divine Leliana is a sort-of good loop-hole to keeping the Inquisition independent and not bound to Orlais since Leliana all but takes orders from you.

[Aren]

 It's official ,after the last Dlc,i would say that Leliana is the DA character with most in-screen time

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Finally finished the DLC. Why couldn't the base game's ending have been that good? Srsly.

Pretty happy with how the arcs of all the characters ended, Leliana included. I would say none of them really need to appear again, but...

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Ending kind of makes it seem like, disbanded or not, the Inquisition is still gonna have a part to play. Judging by the 'both knew of the dangers to come' line I'm guessing the HoF is going to have business of their own.

I know my Warden would gear herself towards turning the Wardens towards Solas, if they're needed...

[dsl08002]

Finally finished the DLC. Why couldn't the base game's ending have been that good? Srsly.

Pretty happy with how the arcs of all the characters ended, Leliana included. I would say none of them really need to appear again, but...

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Ending kind of makes it seem like, disbanded or not, the Inquisition is still gonna have a part to play. Judging by the 'both knew of the dangers to come' line I'm guessing the HoF is going to have business of their own.

I know my Warden would gear herself towards turning the Wardens towards Solas, if they're needed...

I think no matter the character of the warden , will steer towards wiesshaupt, teaming up with Hawke and solvethe warden conflict. so which will be resolved in DA4.

[N7_Heartfire]

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if the Warden or Leliana appear in DAIV. Their epilogue was written in a way that whoever appears in the next game won't imply that they've broken up or are separated again. The way Leliana's epilogues and romance play out it seems to me her writers aren't ready to write her off yet. 

 

The ending of Trespasser kind of implies this won't be the last time we see or hear about Quizzy, Cass, Leliana or Harding. For Cassandra and Leliana at most, I see them having a cameo in the next game the same way Hawke did. They're present for one mission and that's it.

 

I can see the Inquisitor as an important NPC/ mentor-figure to the next PC. It wouldn't feel right if we get a final confrontation with Solas and the Inquisitor isn't present. There's too much history between them. Solavellan especially.

 

The Warden might get an off-screen presence in the game. We get to hear through ambient dialogue or codex entries that they are doing business in Weisshaupt or are fighting a Warden Civil War or dealing with the Cure, etc.

[mrcrazyman]

Well I'd much rather have them move forward with all new characters but who knows.

 

About the stinger

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It definitely opens up the opportunity for some return or codex. It also helps explain what responsibilities other than a nug breeding business she's up to. Regardless of the state of Inqusition, Cassandra or Leliana's position they're still working to stop Solas. Patrick Weekes pretty much confirmed it

https://twitter.com/...035364027195392

is the idea w the post epilogue scene that some of the gang's still doing stuff together behind closed doors post-inquisition

 

mmhmmm

 

 

 

In a change of subject something about the silly Divine outfit bothers me. I think it's the forehead causing her to look a tad off compared to the others with how the hat fits. Or it might be that I'm so used to seeing her hair and hair style that the absence of it throws me off. I don't know.

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Anyways here's some smiles

 

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[SgtSteel91]

Anyone do a playthrough with high-approval Vivienne while Leliana was Divine Victoria? In the playthrough I did Trespasser I didn't recruit her. How is she in that? Does she tell you she's going to start her own Circle?

[LadyStoneheart]

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I just finished Trespasser and LOVED it. It's definitely my favorite Dragon Age DLC now.

I especially loved the ending and its various parallels with the way DAI started: the Inquisitor, Leliana, Cassandra (in my case Josie as well) starting from scratch to prepare for another serious threat; Cass nodding approvingly when reminded of her own words, of the original purpose of the Inquisition ("close the Breach, find those responsible, restore order with or without anyone's approval"); even the way the last scene was framed reminded me of the Haven cell when we first met them, it was a nice touch 

 

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if the Warden or Leliana appear in DAIV. Their epilogue was written in a way that whoever appears in the next game won't imply that they've broken up or are separated again. The way Leliana's epilogues and romance play out it seems to me her writers aren't ready to write her off yet. 

 

The ending of Trespasser kind of implies this won't be the last time we see or hear about Quizzy, Cass, Leliana or Harding. For Cassandra and Leliana at most, I see them having a cameo in the next game the same way Hawke did. They're present for one mission and that's it.

 

I can see the Inquisitor as an important NPC/ mentor-figure to the next PC. It wouldn't feel right if we get a final confrontation with Solas and the Inquisitor isn't present. There's too much history between them. Solavellan especially.

 

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I agree, their story (and particularly the Inquisitor's story) won't be over until Solas is dealt with. I read on Tumblr a post theorizing the return of the Inquisitor as the PC and I think they could make it work if they want to. The loss of the arm isn't really a problem in a world where magic exists, Dagna is on our side and Iron Bull is perfectly capable to fight with a leg brace, one eye and a few missing fingers. Plus the fact that basically all the companions have gone their separate ways would make room for a new Inner Circle, "people Solas doesn't know".

[N7_Heartfire]

Yeah, I agree. 

 

Tbh, it would seem pretty out of character for both Cass and Leliana to just settle down with their LI and say they've done their best with Solas. They've been fighting for the greater good their entire lives, I'd say it's become a habit for both of them that doesn't die easily.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware decide to bring them back for DAIV again as important NPCs. Maybe Cass and Leliana were always meant to be the main female characters of DA. Both of them have been around since the first games, they both have a DLC/short movie about their backstory. The writers have fleshed them out so much, we know everything about their lives.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Merrill or Fenris or any DAII companion appear in the next game, heck, maybe even Zevran. I love Morrigan, but if it were up to me, it would've been Merrill who had Morrigan's role in DAI. I like to think Bioware are saving Merrill for DAIV.

[MissDragon]

So this is the end of Leliana Age? Sobs....

[thesuperdarkone2]

So this is the end of Leliana Age? Sobs....

Well considering how even if she's Divine she is still at the ending planning to face Solas, I'd say that she has a pretty good chance of at least being mentioned in the fight against Solas.

[LadyStoneheart]

Tbh, it would seem pretty out of character for both Cass and Leliana to just settle down with their LI and say they've done their best with Solas. They've been fighting for the greater good their entire lives, I'd say it's become a habit for both of them that doesn't die easily.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware decide to bring them back for DAIV again as important NPCs. Maybe Cass and Leliana were always meant to be the main female characters of DA. Both of them have been around since the first games, they both have a DLC/short movie about their backstory. The writers have fleshed them out so much, we know everything about their lives.

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Oh this would be great! And it would also fit with the story. If in the epilogue slides they were getting on with their lives like the majority of the companions do I would be ready to let them go; but Leliana is not just breeding nugs, grooming successors (or reforming the Chantry) and enjoying her little moments of peace with the Warden: she's actively involved in whatever the Inquisition has become at the end of the DLC, and I doubt she'll just leave Solas to the Inquisitor now that she knows he's responsible for what happened at the Conclave and that it could have gone much, much worse than that.

Then there's this note left by Charter right before we leave for the last battle:

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The order has been given: all known double agents within the Inquisition are being neutralized, and all suspect agents are being isolated from any information coming in or out of the Winter Palace.

We've received messenger birds back from multiple cities. The Inquisition is not the only organization compromised by Qunari spies. In Val Royeaux, gaatlok barrels were put into position by low-placed servants in the Grand Cathedral and Council of Heralds. In Denerim, Qunari spies were revealed among low-ranking members of the City Watch. Starkhaven was seeded with spies among its own palace servants.

In light of our lack of oversight on this matter, I will understand if an agent better suited to the task is promoted in my place. 

 

A reply below, in Leliana's hand:

The blame falls on me. I will not let anyone else appropriate it, no matter how well intended. Do not forget the lives we've saved by warning other cities about the gaatlok barrels.

Besides, my friend, I have enough scandalous gossip on you that I know I can trust you. Of how many other agents is this true?

 

The following line is in the original writing:

At least twenty-three, my lady, but your point is taken.

Of course she blames herself: she's the spymaster, her duty was to gather information on whoever joined the Inquisition and she didn't see how deeply corrupted it had become. I'm not surprised to see she wants to fix her mistake personally.

 

I'm also very intrigued by the implications of having a LyriumSpirit!Leliana hanging around if we decided to kill her in DAO. Some people see her note as a sign that "she was dead all along" but I disagree. I feel that whatever resurrected her could also have something to do with Valta's sudden change at the end of The Descent and the subsequent disappearance of Renn's body from his grave. I really want to know where this is going.

 

Speaking of Cassandra, I was glad to see that she still supports Leliana. In my unfortunate first playthrough she told me Divine!Vivienne was a tyrant, then left the Exalted Council because "she eventually became disgusted by Vivienne, who she felt was perverting the Chant Of Light's intent" (yes, I definitely screwed up). However, if the Divine is Leliana she'll say her reforms are "interesting" and hopefully they'll last long after Leliana is gone; in the end she'll stay in the Council because they still have a lot of respect for each other despite their many disagreements.