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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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So is there an explanation why she is immune to the Blight?

 

She is equipped the magical cowl of convenience. It grants +10 plot armor as well as the mysterious-looking perk.

Sersiosly though: What Iakus said.



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Honestly, I don't understand why nobody in DAO seemed to get tainted, whether it was our companions or the army that was gathered.

Darkspawn are supposed to be very contagious, right? Just getting darkspawn blood sprayed on you while fighting them should be enough.
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Honestly, I don't understand why nobody in DAO seemed to get tainted, whether it was our companions or the army that was gathered.

Darkspawn are supposed to be very contagious, right? Just getting darkspawn blood sprayed on you while fighting them should be enough.

Obviously it's not that contagious. If getting sprayed with darkspwan blood was enough to catch the taint then all of Thedas would have died out a long time ago and non non-grey Warden would ever survive a fight whith Darkspawn. But there are many examples of non-grey Wardens that survived battling Darkspawn. Pretty sure you need to at the very least get the stuff into your own bloodflow to get tainted.



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As I've long stated, the Blight is not just a disease spread by contact with darkspawn bodily fluids; if that were the case, darkspawn could just throw jugs of their own blood at the enemy and they'd be unstoppable. The Blight is a metaphysical affliction. That's why it saps the life out of the environment and the skies themselves darken in the presence of an army of darkspawn. That's also why the rate of infection is so variable and why some seem more susceptible than others.

 

I think strength of will actually plays a role in resisting the Blight. That's why the "larger than life" types like Renn can spend years fighting darkspawn without being tainted.


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Honestly, I don't understand why nobody in DAO seemed to get tainted, whether it was our companions or the army that was gathered.

Darkspawn are supposed to be very contagious, right? Just getting darkspawn blood sprayed on you while fighting them should be enough.

 

Well, before I thought Leli and the mages in particular didn't because they (ideally) rely on ranged attacks.

 

Zevran is just lucky, as he says. Sten has a big sword. :P

 

But this is interesting now...



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As I've long stated, the Blight is not just a disease spread by contact with darkspawn bodily fluids; if that were the case, darkspawn could just throw jugs of their own blood at the enemy and they'd be unstoppable. The Blight is a metaphysical affliction. That's why it saps the life out of the environment and the skies themselves darken in the presence of an army of darkspawn. That's also why the rate of infection is so variable and why some seem more susceptible than others.

I think strength of will actually plays a role in resisting the Blight. That's why the "larger than life" types like Renn can spend years fighting darkspawn without being tainted.


So you mean it isn't their literal bodies that spread the disease but Blight magic emanating from them? Perhaps, but the Mabari dog in DAO did get tainted from biting a darkspawn.

As for the willpower, that much has already been stated by Duncan. And yes, the Dalish Warden is a badass.

Well, before I thought Leli and the mages in particular didn't because they (ideally) rely on ranged attacks.
 
Zevran is just lucky, as he says. Sten has a big sword. :P
 
But this is interesting now...


I always make LOLiana an archer in Origins, as she wields a bow very often in DAI.

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I always make her an archer too, except when she's the last standing... then the daggers come out. DAO Rogue's got good defense to hold out, even without trained daggers.



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So you mean it isn't their literal bodies that spread the disease but Blight magic emanating from them? Perhaps, but the Mabari dog in DAO did get tainted from biting a darkspawn.

 

 

Darkspawn blood is the most potent carrier of the Blight corruption, which is why the Wardens drink it for the Joining. And yet, the fatality rate among mabari biting darkspawn was not 100 per cent.

 

https://youtu.be/GOgCCsSg8BU?t=4m9s

 

"Darkspawn blood is poisonous, but not always fatal. Those who survive grow immune to its effects."


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Our Mabari was cured though.

 

Which makes me think about those flowers.... what the hell are the Wardens hiding?

 

Also, it looks exactly like Leliana's flower (Andraste's Grace), but I'll assume that's just limited graphics.



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Amusingly, that flower is mentioned in Last Flight as a possible cure for a tainted griffon, but the Warden who brings it up promptly dismisses it as a children's story.

 

Botanical knowledge has advanced considerably in the centuries since the Fourth Blight.


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Amusingly, that flower is mentioned in Last Flight as a possible cure for a tainted griffon, but the Warden who brings it up promptly dismisses it as a children's story.

 

Botanical knowledge has advanced considerably in the centuries since the Fourth Blight.

 

It's the Tevinter legacy.

 

Lies and excessive magic. Both lead to lack of science. :P


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Yes, darkspawn blood is dangerous. I wouldn't start bathing in the stuff if you don't want to become a ghoul.

 

But the Blight isn't just a disease, and there's are obviously factors at play to explain why some people spend years fighting darkspawn and never get corrupted. I can guarantee that at some point, Lieutenant Renn from The Descent got some darkspawn blood splashed on his skin during his decade of service in the Deep Roads.

 

Why do some people die during the Joining and some don't? Why did Wesley become a ghoul within hours and Bethany/Carver manage to resist its corruption for days? How come Leliana was experimented on by the Venatori for her "Blight resistance"? There's more going on here than we fully understand.


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Flemeth seems to know more about practical means than anyone. She's also got an herb that distracts darkspawn. I'm assuming that's how she helped Hawke too, like the Warden.

 

But she herself says there's no cure (except being a Warden). So maybe she doesn't know everything either.



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Originally I believe the writers did intend for some of the companions to get sick, and there would be an option to make companions go through the Joining. It got axed or changed during development though.

 

I remember reading something similar posted on the forums at least.


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It would have been funny putting Wynne through the Joining.

 

"How did you like those children stories now?!"



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I found this Tumblr link :- http://pewposterous.tumblr.com/

 

Its NSFW but there are plenty of Leliana themed art

 

;)



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I found this Tumblr link :- http://pewposterous.tumblr.com/

 

Its NSFW but there are plenty of Leliana themed art

 

;)

 

WTF...

 

I'm not bothered by smut, but one of the characters he's got on that page looks like a child. Not cool. 


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WTF...

 

I'm not bothered by smut, but one of the characters he's got on that page looks like a child. Not cool. 

 

Oh that. I just focus on the smut I like.



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Been thinking about Leli's lyrium red ghost thing...was the connection between red lyrium and the Blight ever explained? Beyond Bianca's explanation?

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Been thinking about Leli's lyrium red ghost thing...was the connection between red lyrium and the Blight ever explained? Beyond Bianca's explanation?

Did you need more than Bianca's explanation? It seems fairly straightforward: red lyrium is to ordinary lyrium what a ghoul is to an ordinary person, which implies that lyrium is alive since only living material can hold the Taint.

 

Also, what does "red ghost thing" refer to in this context?



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That reminds me.. Maybe making her immune to blight was one way to kill two birds with one stone. A way to account for her spirit based nature, if you killed her.. and just making it mysterious in general if you didn't.



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Some people being naturally resistant to the Blight actually makes a fair amount of sense, considering the disease has been around in Thedas for centuries. It has been around long enough for some people to have survived exposure to it and passed on genetic adaptations that provide some resistance to the disease, to descendants. 

 

Black Death Likely Altered European Genes

 

On that note I wonder if an inherited genetic resistance to the Blight is the determining factor in whether or not a Grey Warden prospect survives the Joining. 


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It could even explain why the Blights seem to be becoming steadily less disastrous
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Did you need more than Bianca's explanation? It seems fairly straightforward: red lyrium is to ordinary lyrium what a ghoul is to an ordinary person, which implies that lyrium is alive since only living material can hold the Taint.

Also, what does "red ghost thing" refer to in this context?


First, no. I simply wondered if there was anything else out there prior to her explanation or anything that would have hinted toward that being the obvious connection. That's it.

Second, did you play/see Trespasser? Have you ever played/saw the various endings for Leliana? Therein lies your answer to what my "red LYRIUM ghost thing" is referencing.

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As I've long stated, the Blight is not just a disease spread by contact with darkspawn bodily fluids; if that were the case, darkspawn could just throw jugs of their own blood at the enemy and they'd be unstoppable. The Blight is a metaphysical affliction. That's why it saps the life out of the environment and the skies themselves darken in the presence of an army of darkspawn. That's also why the rate of infection is so variable and why some seem more susceptible than others.

 

I think strength of will actually plays a role in resisting the Blight. That's why the "larger than life" types like Renn can spend years fighting darkspawn without being tainted.

What you said  is heavily slanted toward the metaphysical nonsense.
 
-The taint can't infect someone through body to body contact because the skin and the epidermis are a natural barrier.
Solderis can fight darkspawns if they are careful enough to not get hit by the taint in their injuries
 
-The skies never darken at the presence of the darkspawns unless there is an Archdemon,which imply that is the old god who has that effect on the environment not the simple taint.
 
-If goodwill plays a role in fighting the blight then Mhairi shouldn't have died.