I can't buy into long distance relationships with pre-modern communications. If you're spending that much time without seeing or talking to each other, it's time admit there isn't a relationship.
Particularly if this is by choice.
I can't buy into long distance relationships with pre-modern communications. If you're spending that much time without seeing or talking to each other, it's time admit there isn't a relationship.
Particularly if this is by choice.
I'd disagree with that. Relationships are defined by the people involved in them, not by people outside of them. If the Warden and Leliana consider themselves to be involved in a relationship, they are, regardless of what anyone else might think.
Also long distance relationships are not a modern thing. They existed in antiquity as well. Soldiers were quite often married and could be away from home for years at a time.
Also long distance relationships are not a modern thing. They existed in antiquity as well. Soldiers were quite often married and could be away from home for years at a time.
Not to mention sailors.
. If the Warden and Leliana consider themselves to be involved in a relationship, they are, regardless of what anyone else might think.
Well, I don't believe my Warden would. Or if they did, it'd only make them miserable
The thing is...I can't really see Leliana settling down and being a house frau. I think that would be slightly out of character for her. And with duties of own that might not always align with the duties of the Warden Commander of Ferelden, I also think it would make sense for them to occasionally spend time apart.
The thing is...I can't really see Leliana settling down and being a house frau. I think that would be slightly out of character for her. And with duties of own that might not always align with the duties of the Warden Commander of Ferelden, I also think it would make sense for them to occasionally spend time apart.
The thing is...I can't really see Leliana settling down and being a house frau. I think that would be slightly out of character for her. And with duties of own that might not always align with the duties of the Warden Commander of Ferelden, I also think it would make sense for them to occasionally spend time apart.
Totally agree. Leliana is a bit of an adrenaline junkie, and settling down in a normal life would just make her bored and restless.
Living in different countries isn't "occasionally spending time apart"
Living in different countries isn't "occasionally spending time apart"
True, but Leliana travels around a lot, so it's always possible to meet with the Warden at some point. They might not spend most of their time together, but a little, say 1-2 months a year, is enough for them? Different people, different needs and all that.
Living in different countries isn't "occasionally spending time apart"
They are physically apart, even if they consider themselves to still be in a relationship.
That would also be the same exact scenario that was going on with the Bhaalspawn and Jaheira in that Baldur's Gate epilogue. "Theirs was an unshakable union, and while duty or adventure might separate them for even years at a time, they always returned to one another."
Well, like I said, to me that sounds profoundly miserable. I'd rather the relationship ended so they could move on
Well, like I said, to me that sounds profoundly miserable. I'd rather the relationship ended so they could move on
Like I said: different people...
Well my warden tell wardens to suck it and left them traveling himself so she probably don't see him often as he is independent adventurer type
You get more banter between the companions if you go that route. Obviously Leliana and Morrigan get additional dialogue, but Ohgren and Wynne will comment on it as well.
(if the Warden has romanced both Leliana and Morrigan)
Oghren: So, you're not tossing yourself at the boss?
Wynne: Excuse me?
Oghren: It seems like every other woman in the band is tossing herself at the boss feet first. It's like a sodding noble's birthday party here.
Wynne: Oh, no. The Grey Warden is a little young for me. Both of them are.
Oghren: Need someone with a little more experience, I guess, right?
Wynne: I suppose.
Oghren: Well, you know where to find me.
I never heard that! I gotta do it again just to hear this banter!
That is possible on the Xbox as well.
The Warden only gets the 'choose' confrontation if both of them are near maxed out in approval. My Warden finished the game with both of them romanced as well. That being said I had the Warden elect not to follow Morrigan into the mirror in Witch Hunt. I wonder if that will be carried over into DA:I as Morrigan and the Warden no longer being in a relationship. It probably should. Technically the relationship ends when Morrigan leaves at the end of DA:O, and Witch Hunt only provides an opportunity for the Warden to rekindle that relationship.
Is also possible on the PS3 if you choose Leliana over Morrigan and then give Morrigan the mirror saying it's a gift for a pretty girl.
Leliana seems like the lovey dovey type but she doesn't want the kids, husband and nice house on a nice plot of land? It's funny that Morrigan kind of does considering her character.
Those are rather game mechanic flaws rather doubtful that leliana would be fine with you sleeping with morrigan because you didn't "near" maxed her approval and vice versa it is rather clear that they won't approve warden playing with them.Same for mirrior it is also rather game machanic flaw because dialogue is flaged to start romance no matter what i doubt that morrigan would start romance again and accept another partner and partner her.
About banter with oghren and wynne are you sure that you need romance both morrigan and leliana? I romanced only leliana and still got that.
Those are rather game mechanic flaws rather doubtful that leliana would be fine with you sleeping with morrigan because you didn't "near" maxed her approval and vice versa it is rather clear that they won't approve warden playing with them.Same for mirrior it is also rather game machanic flaw because dialogue is flaged to start romance no matter what i doubt that morrigan would start romance again and accept another partner and partner her.
About banter with oghren and wynne are you sure that you need romance both morrigan and leliana? I romanced only leliana and still got that.
Pretty much this. If you romanced more than one companion it was a glitch you took advantage of. The only way to end up with more than one partner is to marry Anora and keep your companion LI. Once the keep comes out don't expect to be able to 'check' both Leliana and Morrigan as romanced. At best we can select 'attempted to romance both Lel' and Mor' but in the end choose _____'. While it is possible to end the game in a romance with multiple characters that is simply because you refused to chat with either of those characters, not because they were somehow fine with you being polyamorous.
Totally agree. Leliana is a bit of an adrenaline junkie, and settling down in a normal life would just make her bored and restless.
Pretty much this. If you romanced more than one companion it was a glitch you took advantage of. The only way to end up with more than one partner is to marry Anora and keep your companion LI.
You can marry Alistair and keep your LI too.
About banter with oghren and wynne are you sure that you need romance both morrigan and leliana? I romanced only leliana and still got that.
Yes, its only supposed to trigger if both are on the romance path.
Pretty much this. If you romanced more than one companion it was a glitch you took advantage of. The only way to end up with more than one partner is to marry Anora and keep your companion LI. Once the keep comes out don't expect to be able to 'check' both Leliana and Morrigan as romanced. At best we can select 'attempted to romance both Lel' and Mor' but in the end choose _____'. While it is possible to end the game in a romance with multiple characters that is simply because you refused to chat with either of those characters, not because they were somehow fine with you being polyamorous.
You could end up finishing the game with both romanced without gaming the system, because the confrontation is linked to approval. And there are events and choices throughout the game that can lower companion approval without using the feastday pranks. Also Morrigan doesn't have to be near or at max approval to begin a relationship with the Warden, while she does have to have very high approval to trigger a confrontation over Leliana. That happened to me on my first time through the game and I had no idea they would confront you on it until visiting the forums.
In any case I would think the continuation of a relationship with Morrigan should entirely be linked to whether or not the Warden followed her through the Eluvian. Assuming you have a Witch Hunt Warden who was involved with both Morrigan and Leliana, I would think the Eluvian choice should terminate one of those relationships. If the Warden rekindles the old relationship with Morrigan and disappears with her, obviously Leliana shouldn't be waiting around for years for the Warden. She should move on. Likewise the decision not to follow Morrigan should end any romance path with her. Technically that romance path ended anyway at the Battle of Denerim, and Witch Hunt only provides an option to rekindle it.
You could end up finishing the game with both romanced without gaming the system, because the confrontation is linked to approval. And there are events and choices throughout the game that can lower companion approval without using the feastday pranks. Also Morrigan doesn't have to be near or at max approval to begin a relationship with the Warden, while she does have to have very high approval to trigger a confrontation over Leliana. That happened to me on my first time through the game and I had no idea they would confront you on it until visiting the forums.
In any case I would think the continuation of a relationship with Morrigan should entirely be linked to whether or not the Warden followed her through the Eluvian. Assuming you have a Witch Hunt Warden who was involved with both Morrigan and Leliana, I would think the Eluvian choice should terminate one of those relationships. If the Warden rekindles the old relationship with Morrigan and disappears with her, obviously Leliana shouldn't be waiting around for years for the Warden. She should move on. Likewise the decision not to follow Morrigan should end any romance path with her. Technically that romance path ended anyway at the Battle of Denerim, and Witch Hunt only provides an option to rekindle it.
As i said it is using game imperfection i don't get how peoples think that after you dump with morrigan or leliana (possible in brutal way) and then you give her mirror and expect she will say lets go have sex oh and can be with leliana im fine with it and then leliana says that same wha? Simple devs put flags on dialogues so if you take that no matter what you start romance even if you told leliana that you breaking up because morrigan is better in bed or say her that she is only girl that walks after you.Approval is only gameplay thing it doesn't exist in dragon age universe it shows your relations with companion but sadly it is imperfect system that is connected to the story.
So there is no
Leliana-oh you can sleep with morrigan im fine with that but don't get more than 70 approval because then i won't.
Simple every Li won't accept another they say you that outright and problem lies in that jealousy dialogue won't show second time simple is simple because game mechanic work that way.
Best example is when you romance zevran and didn't sleep with him wynne tells you that entire camp can't sleep because of you two or when leliana tells you that you are first person and last she see when she wake up and feel aslep (you need love approval to get this line but get it even if you didn't slept with her).
Living in different countries isn't "occasionally spending time apart"
Who's to say they were even in different countries? We know essentially nothing about the Warden's whereabouts during DA2 other than that he/she was apparently going to visit Denerim in act 3.
Right? That would be like her spending a couple of years in a small chantry on the edge of nowhere.
Which did make her bored and restless...
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