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Sister Nightingale: Leliana in DA:I Appreciation&Discussion (Nope, still not romanceable)


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YourFunnyUncle

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Still not an argument, next time please come with some actual arguments so we don't waste our time, if you will come with good ones you will save your face too.

 

Evidence suggests that attempting to argue with you is roughly as useful and interesting as headbutting a brick wall, and I suspect  it would be similarly good for my face.



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In all seriousness, TKS, you've not said anything in the last few pages that I haven't seen you say countless times before. I'm not interested in regurgitating the same arguments again and again and again. I'm not quite sure why you are.



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Why are people responding to tks? He clearly will never change his opinion and he advocates baby killing as a legitimate way of dealing with mages. If someone seriously advocates that, why bother trying to debate them?
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Evidence suggests that attempting to argue with you is roughly as useful and interesting as headbutting a brick wall, and I suspect  it would be similarly good for my face.

So instead of attacking my arguments you attack person that makes an argument i belive it is called Ad hominem. ;)

 

Besides if you aren't interested in arguing with me why you are cutting in conversation, you behavior seems contradictionary for someone who doesn't want to participate in discussion.

 

It seems "there is no point in arguing with you" is mere a facade that exist to hide your lack of arguments on given topic. 

 

 

In all seriousness, TKS, you've not said anything in the last few pages that I haven't seen you say countless times before. I'm not interested in regurgitating the same arguments again and again and again. I'm not quite sure why you are.

False, im pretty sure i never argued that marjolaine is saner out of the two, if you have evidence that would contradict this i will gladly see you present it.

 

 

Why are people responding to tks? He clearly will never change his opinion and he advocates baby killing as a legitimate way of dealing with mages. If someone seriously advocates that, why bother trying to debate them?

You with this fallacious argument again? Provide any rational argument that would be against such solution instead "think about children man!" as appeal to emotions. I called you out at least three times on that you never provided one.



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Why are people responding to tks? He clearly will never change his opinion and he advocates baby killing as a legitimate way of dealing with mages. If someone seriously advocates that, why bother trying to debate them?

I think his modus operandi is to keep commenting until someone who hasn't seen one of his "arguments" before bites. Sometimes I just need to let the sarcasm out. I'll shut up now.

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I think his modus operandi is to keep commenting until someone who hasn't seen one of his "arguments" before bites. Sometimes I just need to let the sarcasm out. I'll shut up now.

As i have said , please provide me with evidence that i argued that before, untill then your claims have little value.



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Why are people responding to tks? He clearly will never change his opinion and he advocates baby killing as a legitimate way of dealing with mages. If someone seriously advocates that, why bother trying to debate them?

Yeah, arguing with TKS is boring.


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Yeah, arguing with TKS is boring.

If you have no arguments sure it is, next time try use some maybe it won't. ;)



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One thing I appreciate about Leliana is that her friendship with the Warden actually lasts. She tells you that s/he is one of her closest friends and they often send letters to each other.

On the other hand, Alistair suddenly decides the HoF is evil because of the DR.

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One thing I appreciate about Leliana is that her friendship with the Warden actually lasts. She tells you that s/he is one of her closest friends and they often send letters to each other.

On the other hand, Alistair suddenly decides the HoF is evil because of the DR.

What sadly is BS as it assumed you were her friend, even if you ignored her mission.

 

He says HoF walks a dark parth what isn't necessarily equivalent to being evil, it also  difficult to even establish if he speaks about that way because of DR, as only way to get grey warden Alistair and HoF alive what is required to get that line is DR.



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I believe what determines whether the unromanced Warden and Leliana are on good terms or not is the decision made during The Urn of Sacred Ashes.

As for Alistair, you could be right if the full quote didn't include "He may have joined the Orlesian Wardens. If so, hopefully he will be on our side. But I wouldn't count on it. Before we fought the archdemon, he did things that... he walks a dark path".

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One thing I appreciate about Leliana is that her friendship with the Warden actually lasts. She tells you that s/he is one of her closest friends and they often send letters to each other.

On the other hand, Alistair suddenly decides the HoF is evil because of the DR.


And if the warden did the ultimate sacrifice, alistair is butthurt that the warden is more famous than him. Seriously, go to hell Alistair

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I believe what determines whether the unromanced Warden and Leliana are on good terms or not is the decision made during The Urn of Sacred Ashes.

As for Alistair, you could be right if the full quote didn't include "He may have joined the Orlesian Wardens. If so, hopefully he will be on our side. But I wouldn't count on it. Before we fought the archdemon, he did things that... he walks a dark path".

Aka the Dark Ritual. Why does Alistair complain about that?



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And if the warden did the ultimate sacrifice, alistair is butthurt that the warden is more famous than him. Seriously, go to hell Alistair

Does he say anything about a US Warden?



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Does he say anything about a US Warden?

I forget what it was but essentially he goes how he fought the blight but everyone only remembers the hof and that he should get some fame too

Serious salty alistair
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I forget what it was but essentially he goes how he fought the blight but everyone only remembers the hof and that he should get some fame too

Serious salty alistair

Agreed, and i like him. but seriously he needs to be thrown a cliff for complaining about that.



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I forget what it was but essentially he goes how he fought the blight but everyone only remembers the hof and that he should get some fame too

Serious salty alistair


I've never seen that in any of the different versions of his cameo. If the Warden is dead, Alistair simply won't mention him/her at all.

I think you're just reading too much into something he said.

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I believe what determines whether the unromanced Warden and Leliana are on good terms or not is the decision made during The Urn of Sacred Ashes.

As for Alistair, you could be right if the full quote didn't include "He may have joined the Orlesian Wardens. If so, hopefully he will be on our side. But I wouldn't count on it. Before we fought the archdemon, he did things that... he walks a dark path".

What is useless because then she either was killed or left your party, aside from that it is pretty much terrible way to determine whether you were on good terms or not because it is single decision that has nothing to do with how the warden treated her or what warden tought about her.

 

It doesn't change much, Alistair might think s/he approved Clarel plan that while incredibly stupid wasn't necessarily evil, that just one interpretation.

 

 

 

I've never seen that in any of the different versions of his cameo. If the Warden is dead, Alistair simply won't mention him/her at all.

I think you're just reading too much into something he said.

 

Never saw it as well. To be honest i wouldn't be suprised if he made that up it wouldn't be a first Time, i called him about three times on lying about Weeks confirming that Guide was right despite he only said it is up to Gaider.



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Yeah, arguing with TKS is boring.

Hey Phoenix! Welcome to the "If you don't wish to argue with TKS it's because you have no arguments" non-sequitur club! Please take a complimentary drink. There will be entertainments shortly or if you prefer you can retire to our library for some peace and quiet.

#15870
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Hey Phoenix! Welcome to the "If you don't wish to argue with TKS it's because you have no arguments" non-sequitur club! Please take a complimentary drink. There will be entertainments shortly or if you prefer you can retire to our library for some peace and quiet.

Your attempts to demonize me are pitiful, you were asked for an arguments could provide none, you have accused me of participating in such argument countless you were asked for evidence yet once again you couldn't provide one.

 

It seems all you were capable of doing is throw some irrational excuses as why you don't want participate in discussion, despite you pretty were doing that only with using ad homoniem.

 

Pretty much argument with you is much like this. If you can't win with an argument you try win with emotions and appealing to others



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So how 'bout that Leliana, eh?
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That Leliana be revolutionizin' the world.

DA4 better not troll us with "Yeeaaah, those changes in the Chantry and for the mages didn't work out so well".
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That Leliana be revolutionizin' the world.
DA4 better not troll us with "Yeeaaah, those changes in the Chantry and for the mages didn't work out so well".


I'm sure it'll be less trolling and more ambiguous. They can only change so much of the base setting while still trying to honor all the different possible outcomes, which is why nothing ever really changes.

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That Leliana be revolutionizin' the world.

DA4 better not troll us with "Yeeaaah, those changes in the Chantry and for the mages didn't work out so well".

If Da 4 will be even remotely realistic her reforms will fall, way too unrealistic and mary sueish.



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They should be able to show small differences at least.

Like, if the plot calls for a South Andrastean cleric to show up, if Leliana is in charge said cleric could be an elf.