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[Aimi]

They should just call it "the lingua franca."

or sabir

[Han Shot First]

Does the French language even exist in Thedas? All Orlesians seem to speak English, even among themselves.

 

Thedas has a common trade language that everyone speaks that is derived from a dwarven dialect. In Ferelden it completely replaced local Alamarri language(s) and became the only language spoken in the nation. But that isn't the case everywhere in Thedas. In some regions people are bilingual. Antiva for example, still has a native language that coexists with that common trade language. (Spanish apparently)

 

Given that every Orlesian character we've met has had a French accent so far, I'm hoping Bioware has the Orlesians be more similar to the Antivans than the people of Ferelden. I'd rather they spoke Orlesian in addition to that common trade language, and French makes the most sense to use as the stand in for Orlesian.

 

EDIT: Disregard...an earlier post mentioned that an Orlesian language was mentioned in The Calling. 

[Beerfish]

This is where I am rather conflicted in a game like the Dragon Age series with a new protagonist each game vs mass effect with the same one through multiple games.  In mass effect I can carry forth my opinions, ideas, feelings for other characters who reappear quite easily.  It is much much tougher to wipe the slate clean so to speak and ignore contents of previous games and the books and act as if my new protag, the inquis in this case has limited info on the new people he/she meets.

 

I like the new look of Leliana quite a bit.  I have romanced her in past games.  I also generally think she is half looney tunes, very unrealiable and is supporting a divine whom I disagree with totally and view as somewhat of a traitor.

[HiroVoid]

I like the new look of Leliana quite a bit.  I have romanced her in past games.  I also generally think she is half looney tunes, very unrealiable and is supporting a divine whom I disagree with totally and view as somewhat of a traitor.

How so?

[godModeAlpha]

I like the new look of Leliana quite a bit.  I have romanced her in past games.  I also generally think she is half looney tunes, very unrealiable and is supporting a divine whom I disagree with totally and view as somewhat of a traitor.

 

 

Lol @ Looney, pls do clarify ... unless you are talking about the whole Nug thing ... Which I found quite hilarious.

 

Leliana is probably the most loyal companion in DAO. I never found her to be unreliable, hardened or not, pls provide some examples?

[TheChris92]

Dialogue Tweaks is how I got it working, yes. I don't leave home without it.

Just make sure you don't have something incompatible already.

That's the mod I downloaded recently -- Do you know when she says it?

[Rel Fexive]

I like the new look of Leliana quite a bit.  I have romanced her in past games.  I also generally think she is half looney tunes, very unrealiable and is supporting a divine whom I disagree with totally and view as somewhat of a traitor.

 

Out of curiosity, on what do you disagree with the Divine totally?

[Beerfish]

How so?

Spoilers below!

 

My view of the chantry as a hard liner pro templar is that mages need to be closely monitored.  The new boss does not agree, Leliana in the last book took what I considered an act of betrayl of the true values of the chantry, to the point of murder.

[Beerfish]

Lol @ Looney, pls do clarify ... unless you are talking about the whole Nug thing ... Which I found quite hilarious.

 

Leliana is probably the most loyal companion in DAO. I never found her to be unreliable, hardened or not, pls provide some examples?

She talks to a tree and thinks the maker talks to her.  She feels she is ultra special due to this.  She's a pious bad girl and a bard.

 

As I state above, my general bent is that of being pro templar and pro chantry to deal justly but prudently with mages.  She has abandoned this along with the new leader of the chantry.

[Lenimph]

Spoilers below!

 

My view of the chantry as a hard liner pro templar is that mages need to be closely monitored.  The new boss does not agree, Leliana in the last book took what I considered an act of betrayl of the true values of the chantry, to the point of murder.

Divine Justinia is serving up Justice for   daughters and sons of the Maker

Deal with it  

[Beerfish]

Out of curiosity, on what do you disagree with the Divine totally?

See my other posts in this thread. Loosening the reigns on a very dangerous element previously watched closely by the chantry, to the point of allowing if not encouraging her 'left hand' to consort with apostates and actively help them be damned the consequences.

[Beerfish]

Divine Justinia is serving up Justice for   daughters and sons of the Maker

Deal with it  

It's not me who will have to deal with it.  It's the many innocent victims killed in the most hideous ways by uncontrolled mages.  Now, do I have to call on sister Petrice!?!?

[Xilizhra]

It's not me who will have to deal with it.  It's the many innocent victims killed in the most hideous ways by uncontrolled mages.  Now, do I have to call on sister Petrice!?!?

Petrice's bugbear is the qunari; if the mages would still be useful against the qunari, I don't think she'd really care. It's not as though she gives a damn about apostates in DA2.

[Reznore57]

I also don't like the Divine.I tend to be pro mage...

But I  think she betrayed the templars , who were doing their jobs.She  betrayed the mages.

The Chantry was supposed to protect them.

She released an information the mages and templars would fight over when she knew the situation was already about to explode.

As far as I'm concerned this war ,and all the death are her responsibility.A circle in Rivain was annuled because of all this mess.

 

No one was prepared.Now the templars are ruining around sniffing red lyrium ,renegade mages are killing peasents.

Great.Just great plan.

 

I'm going to have a problem with Leliana for sure.

I have more sympathy for the templars than for the  Chantry at this point.

[Basement Cat]

It's not me who will have to deal with it.  It's the many innocent victims killed in the most hideous ways by uncontrolled mages.  Now, do I have to call on sister Petrice!?!?

Maybe the Maker hit the reset button on Thedas. Erase everything and create anew. With Leliana as the new Andraste. *shifty eyes*

[Maria Caliban]

See my other posts in this thread. Loosening the reigns on a very dangerous element previously watched closely by the chantry, to the point of allowing if not encouraging her 'left hand' to consort with apostates and actively help them be damned the consequences.

That may be ill-informed, but it's not traitorous. The Divine's authority derives from the Maker. As the Chantry serves the Maker, then whatever the Divine pulls out of her backside is legit.

[Rel Fexive]

My view of the chantry as a hard liner pro templar is that mages need to be closely monitored.  The new boss does not agree, Leliana in the last book took what I considered an act of betrayl of the true values of the chantry, to the point of murder.

See my other posts in this thread. Loosening the reigns on a very dangerous element previously watched closely by the chantry, to the point of allowing if not encouraging her 'left hand' to consort with apostates and actively help them be damned the consequences.

 

People so often go the other way i.e. anti-Chantry. Fascinating.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

[DRAGON AGE]: It’s been a few years since we last saw Leliana. What has she been doing?

[SHERYL CHEE]: After the Fifth Blight, Leliana was summoned to Val Royeaux by her friend and mentor, Divine Justinia V.

[DA]: There’s definitely some history between them.

[SC]: Yes—Justinia was formerly known as Revered Mother Dorothea, the woman who saved Leliana when Leliana was betrayed and almost killed by her old mistress, Marjolaine. Because of their history, Leliana feels a close bond with Justinia; naturally, when Justinia needed her help, Leliana went to her side. She has been serving as the Divine’s Left Hand for some time now.

[DA]: How has her personality changed since her introduction to the series?

[SC]: Those who played Dragon Age: Origins might remember Leliana as a cheerful, optimistic young woman who tried her best to do what she thought was right. It’s now ten years later, and lots of things have happened. She’s not as carefree. Even if she wanted to show that side of her personality, she can’t.

[DA]: Why’s that?

[SC]: She’s a high-ranking member of the Inquisition with a great deal of responsibility, and she has to present herself a certain way for the Inquisition’s sake. However, if you prove that you're trustworthy, and that you understand where she's come from, she might let her guard down a little.

[DA]: How did you find revisiting Leliana?

[SC]: Coming back to Leliana gave me the chance to pull everything from Leliana’s various appearances throughout the Dragon Age world and fit them together.

[DA]: In what way?

[SC]: Leliana’s Song shared her backstory, establishing her relationship with the woman who would become the Divine. In Dragon Age: Origins, Leliana is coming to terms with her past and trying to figure out who she is. In Dragon Age II, and the Asunder and Masked Empire novels, we see Leliana in her role as Left Hand of the Divine. It’s been a long road for her, and inInquisition, we’ll get to see how her journey has shaped her as a person, and where the path might take her in the future.

[DA]: Were there any challenges?

[SC]: Leliana is always a little tricky because of how the player’s choices in Origins can affect her. I had to make sure that no matter what the player did in Origins, Leliana’s role and character in Inquisition made sense. It's a matter of respecting her core nature, so that regardless of what happened (or happens) to her, she's always clearly "Leliana."  

[DA]: You said that Leliana is now “Left Hand of the Divine.” What exactly does that mean?

[SC]: As we know, Cassandra is Right Hand of the Divine: the warrior who puts herself front and center, she’s bold and direct and driven. Leliana is the Left Hand—the “sinister” hand, as it were. She hangs back in the shadows. She watches the Divine’s back, watches for enemies, waits for them to reveal their weaknesses, and comes at them from the shadows.

[DA]: Those skills must be useful for the Inquisition?

[SC]: The Inquisition is a new power, a threat to some of the existing structures within Thedas. Naturally, some people will oppose it, and Leliana will deal with these opposing forces should direct action or diplomacy fail.

[DA]: So she gets along well with the rest of the Inquisition?

[SC]: The Inquisition is Leliana’s priority. She knows that infighting will doom it to a quick and messy end, so she’s often willing to put aside her own personal feelings to do what’s best for the organization.

[DA]: Can you give us an example?

[SC]: She has a healthy respect for Cassandra, even if she doesn’t always agree with her. Ultimately, their goals align, and they’ll work together for what they believe is the greater good. It’s a little like Mom and Dad quarrelling behind closed doors, but presenting a united front to the kids. Same goes for Cullen. 

[DA]: And finally, the question on everyone’s mind: How is Schmooples?

[SC]: Ah, Schmooples. Maybe we should let people find out on their own when they play the game.

[godModeAlpha]

She talks to a tree and thinks the maker talks to her.  She feels she is ultra special due to this.  She's a pious bad girl and a bard.

 

As I state above, my general bent is that of being pro templar and pro chantry to deal justly but prudently with mages.  She has abandoned this along with the new leader of the chantry.

 

 

I dont recall Leliana abandoning the new leader of the Chantry ... when did this happen?

 

Just because she believes the maker talks to her does not make her looney in my books, it's her belief, no?

 

You also have not provided details of her being unreliable?

[Basement Cat]

 

[DA]: And finally, the question on everyone’s mind: How is Schmooples?

[SC]: Ah, Schmooples. Maybe we should let people find out on their own when they play the game.

 

 

Sheryl, you tease! 

[jlb524]

Schmooples better not be dead

 

noooo

[Han Shot First]

So Schmooples probably didn't end up in Oghren's gut? Thank the Maker!

[Beerfish]

That may be ill-informed, but it's not traitorous. The Divine's authority derives from the Maker. As the Chantry serves the Maker, then whatever the Divine pulls out of her backside is legit.

And that is why all the templars are following her loyally correct?  Not in my books is it legit.  If the Pope stood up tomorrow and contradicted some major long time tenants he would at the very least have some big resistance within the ranks.  Once again, beware of spoilers....  Leliania killing templars, consorting with apostates, helping destroy vials is a full step ahead of just being more lenient towards mages.

 

I would guess that there will be a significant element within the game that agrees with me.

[Hellion Rex]

by Aimo