You know, it didn't occur to me until now, but the Venatori from last fall's demo are occupying a former Grey Warden keep.
I initially wrote that off as "Well, it's just an abandoned keep," but now I wonder if the Wardens aren't allied with those Tevinter nutjobs as well.
I am gonna go ahead and guess that the Grey Wardens are one of those factions you can either ally with, or become an enemy of.
I am gonna go ahead and guess that the Grey Wardens are one of those factions you can either ally with, or become an enemy of.
I'm going to guess that they'll start as enemies but you can get on their good side later in the game.
Maybe a small faction of the wardens split from the order for some unknown reason?
That would be interesting.
well, if i remember correctly... following the 5th blight in origins, i believe in one of the epilogue slides that the wardens began to bolster their numbers immediately after that... and then it fell off after about a year
yes, its called the last flight it comes out August 12
The Grey Wardens are heroes across Thedas once again: the Archdemon has been defeated with relative ease and the scattered darkspawn are being driven back underground. The Blight is over. Or so it seems. Valya, a young elven mage recently recruited into the Wardens, has been tasked with studying the historical record of previous Blights in order to gain insight into newly reported, and disturbing, darkspawn phenomena. Her research into the Fourth Blight leads her to an encoded reference scrawled in the margins of an ancient map, and to the hidden diary of Issenya, one of the last of the fabled griffon riders. As the dark secrets buried in Isseyna's story unfold, Valya begins to question everything she thought she knew about the heroic Grey Wardens. . .
-from wiki
Wow! Love it and really look forward to reading it.
@ Wolfen09
After Origins and Awakenings the Wardens are redeemed and depending on your choice for the Vigil or Amaranthine they do rebuild the order. I always go with the vigil to save it. I turned the Vigil into a military might not just for the Wardens but for Ferelden at the same time.
I want to know why the Inquisition is attacking Grey Wardens all over the place, what is the purpose?
I'm not really happy about the Grey Wardens being attacked. I guess clues will follow in the new book coming in August.
I'm guessing the attack in the new video is on The Vigil or the Warden Post in Orlais. Montsimmard I think is where they are located in Orlais.
After the main massacre, you'll have to fight seriously pissed off DAA wardens, accompanied by Carver /Beth if they went to wardens, in one big boss fight.
Feels would be had.
But it's probably just Cory having a giggle, since even the DAI map thing mentions him.
Thats what they get for not dealing with Anders and Fionas desertion..My Inquisitor is mighty pissed he has to deal with their mess (Heck it was two alleged ex-wardens who started the Mage Templar War) Then they have some Upstart young punk sitting on Fereldens throne calling himself Prince-Consort thinking he is King **** cause he is "The Hero of Ferelden"..My Inquisitor has already had enough of these people
Very likely that the Warden-Commander from DA:A (the Warden referenced to at the ending of DA2, since the DA:O one can be dead, but the one from DA:A can be the one from DA:O) will be helping the Inquisition with inquisition-work 
As in, trying to root out the corruption (Corypheus) within the Wardens (if that's even the reason for why the Inquisition is in conflict with the Wardens).
I thought Carver/Bethany were stationed somewhere else.
Oh yeah, I want to see an inquisitor or his troops attack Velanna if she is alive. That should be interesting.
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I want to avoid battling the grey wardens...dang, I have no remorse slaughtering templars and chantry creeps, but the wardens...I'll look for a peaceful solution first.
I am not happy about it.
There's this nagging thought in the back of my mind that, whatever the story justification for it is, the meta reason they're having the Inquisition fight the Wardens is to show that however awesome the Wardens are, the Inquisition is that much more badass. That they're stronger, that they're better.
And considering that I am a huge fan of the Wardens and was looking forward to allying with them, and that several of my favorite characters are wardens and this may put me at odds with them, I don't like it.
Were I writing the story, the Wardens would stomp any attack on them by the Inquisition. The idea that they may end up looking weak only so that the Inquisition will look good may turn me against my own faction.
Yeah. The Wardens are supposed to be the elite of Thedas. I watch this trailer and, to my displeasure, I see Wardens getting dropped as if they were common road bandits from Skyrim.
They're not just men and women in armor, or just some Elves with a bow and dwarves with beards. "In war, victory. In peace, vigilance. In death, sacrifice ."
"Join us brothers and sisters. Join us in the shadows where we stand vigilant. Join us as we carry out the duty that cannot be forsworn. And should you perish, know that your sacrifice will not be forgotten. And that one day, we shall join you."
Is the lore still intact?
Well wardens as mages never matched their reputation outside perhaps outside keep in ferelden they were crushed by darkspawn and even after in daa they were pretty easily crushed by darkspawn...
Well wardens as mages never matched their reputation outside perhaps outside keep in ferelden they were crushed by darkspawn and even after in daa they were pretty easily crushed by darkspawn...
I'm just saying the Wardens aren't common mooks that get wreaked by other mooks. It kills the lore imho.
I'm just saying the Wardens aren't common mooks that get wreaked by other mooks. It kills the lore imho.
To be honest in dao and daa they got wrecked 2 times by darkspawn and now by inquisition easily their skills may be just how society see gray wardens as powerful heroes not actual truth.
In DA:O they were betrayed by the rat fink Loghain Mac Tir. In DA:A they were hit with an underground sneak attack. And, may I remind you, on both occasions a small group of Wardens >still< led the way to victory in the end.
In DA:O they were betrayed by the rat fink Loghain Mac Tir. In DA:A they were hit with an underground sneak attack. And, may I remind you, on both occasions a small group of Wardens >still< led the way to victory in the end.
Well they weren't attacked by loghain loghain just escaped still they lost.Well the warden took them all himself so well i know that is protagonist but stil...
You mean by 1 warden (2 if you count alistair) who was protagonist and could be called chuck norris?
I'm just saying the Wardens aren't common mooks that get wreaked by other mooks. It kills the lore imho.
The Grey Warden's as a group are one of the strongest groups in Thedas and a individual Grey Warden has to be pretty strong to survive their joining but it's not an instant win against any opponent. They can be beaten by superior numbers, bested by an enemy with superior skill or tactics, or just fall prey to sneak attacks. Your average Warden can probably go toe to toe with your above average enemy of the same class but that's not what makes them legendary, they fight against the faceless hoard (darkspawn) and kill immortal gods while draped in mystery and a legend of invincibility. Are they really invincible? No, they're just highly skilled warriors/rouge's/mages with an quasi-immunity to the taint, but the common man doesn't know that and would rather avoid a fight with them than find out. Another thing they have going for them is the fact that they're largely neutral: They fight the darkspawn, that's it, no conquest, no politics, no power struggle, so there's no reason for the vast majority of trained armed forces to fight them...until now. For whatever reason the Grey Wardens are against the Inquisition, the reason's are unknown but the fact is that they're being forced to fight something that they've never really had to do (at least they've not done it well in the past) and that's fight a massive group of free thinking and highly skilled warriors that are as committed to their cause as the Grey Wardens should be to theirs.
Loghain didn't escape. He betrayed the King and the Wardens.
Loghain didn't escape he-oh wait, I'm getting trolled.
You know that Loghain left/escape during the battle with his peoples?
unless the wardens are siding with the darkspawn or whoever is behind the breach, then id rather not fight them... however, the whole lack of diversity in the wardens in da2 (meaning all humans no elves or dwarves) was really weird to me
Well Duncan points out that they've got fewer dwarven recruits these days as a consequence of there being fewer dwarves.
The Grey Warden's as a group are one of the strongest groups in Thedas and a individual Grey Warden has to be pretty strong to survive their joining but it's not an instant win against any opponent. They can be beaten by superior numbers, bested by an enemy with superior skill or tactics, or just fall prey to sneak attacks. Your average Warden can probably go toe to toe with your above average enemy of the same class but that's not what makes them legendary, they fight against the faceless hoard (darkspawn) and kill immortal gods while draped in mystery and a legend of invincibility. Are they really invincible? No, they're just highly skilled warriors/rouge's/mages with an quasi-immunity to the taint, but the common man doesn't know that and would rather avoid a fight with them than find out. Another thing they have going for them is the fact that they're largely neutral: They fight the darkspawn, that's it, no conquest, no politics, no power struggle, so there's no reason for the vast majority of trained armed forces to fight them...until now. For whatever reason the Grey Wardens are against the Inquisition, the reason's are unknown but the fact is that they're being forced to fight something that they've never really had to do (at least they've not done it well in the past) and that's fight a massive group of free thinking and highly skilled warriors that are as committed to their cause as the Grey Wardens should be to theirs.
Exactly. Grey Wardens are elite and the best to fight darkspawn, helped by their legendary past, but there are more things out there. Not only different enemies to the ones they are used to (darkspawn), but also other elites that, in lore, question the Wardens' right to claim they're the best fighters in Thedas.
-Seekers of Truth: according to lore, they are recruited from the ranks of the best Templars. Examples of badassery in lore: Cassandra in Dawn of the Seeker, Lambert in Asunder. Very important this group, since it's pretty likely that the first soldiers of the Inquisition will come from Cassandra's Seekers.
-Chevaliers: the best of the best of Orlais. According to The Masked Empire, they train to fight in every possible way, and they study Templar and Grey Warden techniques too. Examples of badassery in lore: Ser Michel and Gaspard in TME.
There's no contradiction with the previous lore, since in Ferelden there weren't really any elites to dispute their badassery. But Duncan admits that, since a long time has passed since the last blight, they're in decline. After all, when you don't have many darkspawn to fight, you get rusty (ok, probably the Anderfels Wardens are fearsome fellows, since that country is plagued with darkspawn, and our friends in Amaranthine too).
unless the wardens are siding with the darkspawn or whoever is behind the breach, then id rather not fight them... however, the whole lack of diversity in the wardens in da2 (meaning all humans no elves or dwarves) was really weird to me
I only remember Stroud, Alistair, and Carver/Bethany. as humans, there could have been Elves in the deep road under masks or what not.
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