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Can Inquisitor walk in & out of the Fade?


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That's reaching.

 

Cassandra asks: "And you have no idea how you survived?"

 

That's not indicative of sweeping memory loss. The inquisitor may very well know who they are, but they may have blanked out or suppressed memories of the blast incident.

 

They may have no idea how they survived, but that's not to say that everything else has gone out the window.

 

that's why i said , like cole, you could have memories of your life...but they're only fabricated.

Your first Real memory would have been right after the blast.

 

and everything after that would be your choice (based on what You think your life was)

 

according to my theory at least, (and others apparently ^_^ )



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that's why i said , like cole, you could have memories of your life...but they're only fabricated.

Your first Real memory would have been right after the blast.

 

and everything after that would be your choice (based on what You think your life was)

 

according to my theory at least, (and others apparently ^_^ )

 

That's still awful. Especially for secondary playthroughs. If I find out my character is just deluded, I'd never have fun crafting backstories for future ones. It's all pointless.

 

edit: BTW, has anyone ever seen the movie Angel Heart. One of my favorites. Needless to say, but it's similar, and the ending is devasting to me. I don't know why delusion bothers me so much, but it does. I'll try not to carry on about it though.



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Or, for unknown reasons, Inq may lie to Cass about himself being not able to remember things.


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That's still awful. Especially for secondary playthroughs. If I find out my character is just deluded, I'd never have fun crafting backstories for future ones. It's all pointless.

 

It's not really a delusion, though, is it? Not if the spirit 'becomes' you by assuming your identity and taking on all your memories. You're just... You v. 2.0 (now with added spiritual angst and neat Fade-altering powers!). Everything that made your character unique still applies - the pattern's essentially the same, and ultimately that's the only thing that really matters. Sure, there's an extra corpse of you lying around somewhere, but that doesn't make this iteration any less your character now. You still make decisions based on your character's memories / prior motivations.

 

Plus, who's to say they'll even go that route. Likely you'll just be imbued by some Fade-related power through some accident or cosmic balancing act.



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It's not really a delusion, though, is it? Not if the spirit 'becomes' you by assuming your identity and taking on all your memories. You're just... You v. 2.0 (now with added spiritual angst and neat Fade-altering powers!). Everything that made your character unique still applies - the pattern's essentially the same, and ultimately that's the only thing that really matters. Sure, there's an extra corpse of you lying around somewhere, but that doesn't make this iteration any less your character now. You still make decisions based on your character's memories / prior motivations.

 

Plus, who's to say they'll even go that route. Likely you'll just be imbued by some Fade-related power through some accident or cosmic balancing act.

 

I'd rather just have the Fade imbuing power or if they must.. a "fellowship" with a Spirit. I don't want to merge with a spirit though. The delusion part is just one of my complaints. Lorewise, both Chantry and Dalish consider them abominations. That limits my roleplaying. How can I respect myself as a Dalish or Templar type if I found out I was a Fade Spirit? Talk about conflict of interest. lol

 

I was hoping after DAO and DA2, they'd avoid these overly mystical origins for the player character. So far, we've started from fairly earthly or humble beginnings. I don't want to be Jesus/the Dragonborn/Justice/Anders/Wynne/Cole. Or whatever. Just let me be a warrior or rogue. That's all I ask.



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Isn't Cassandra saying that the person we know now is to become the Inquisitor in this game 'walked out of the Fade' i.e. after what she just has called the Breach. Someone or something has breached the fade which is threatening to destroy everything.
I would guess (and that is a qualified guess based on what Cassandra says in the trailer) that what she means is this:

The only person surviving the Breach is you, the Inquisitor. The Breach has been made? to make a tear or breach in the Fade, so that the Fade actually covers the physical real world. The Fade lowers itself down on the real physical gulf, this swallowing up or engulfing anything in its way. And for some reason, the Breach, at the peace conference, lets you, the Inquisitor, still live - without any memories of your survived, though.

And yes, all these tropes/clichees have been used before; however it is not that Bioware uses these tropes/clichees - it is the way Bioware uses them. We still stories about dysfunctional families, or stories of father-son or mother-daugther bad or good relationsships. We still watch stories about crime and detectives solving puzzles and cases on tv - also stories which uses more tropes/clichees that Bioware does. It is in in the tale is told, or as the old folk would say, how the yarn is spun, that the master storyteller reveals herself. And Bioware spins very nice yarns, imo, they tell very good tales, I find.


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Dreamers can do the same.



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Thats it. I'm naming the Inquisitor "Revan". And the final enemy will be Darth Malak, in the Star Forge-I mean- the Fade Breach.



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 It is in in the tale is told, or as the old folk would say, how the yarn is spun, that the master storyteller reveals herself. And Bioware spins very nice yarns, imo, they tell very good tales, I find.

 

I'm not really a big fan of how they've spun the "yarn", so to speak. I like their lore and I like the characters. Not their propensity for good plot writing (or lack thereof). None of my Wardens even have closure, unless they romance Morrigan and I'm male. My other characters fall flat. They just disappear for no reason. So I'm left with one fairly complete story and a bundle of cliffhangers on the other. That's not spinning the yarn. That's running out of yarn, and reserving it for just one particular story path.

 

As for DA2, it was cool up to Act 3. It was an "immigrant makes good" type of story. Then I suddenly get forced into a contrived Mage/Templar clusterf*ck... oh, and I disappear as well. The yarn changed a completely different color by the time it was over.

 

Anyways, they could still write a cool story with this premise. I don't know anything about the plot yet. I hope you're right. I just find it distasteful if I have to play a delusional character or someone heavily connected to the Fade (as in, a possible abomination).



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memory loss also means no background in general and possibly no side quests based on background.

 

No, you'll get a background - but it won't be "your" background, and the extent to which you want to be the person you where is up to you. Like Revan in KoTOR. 



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Blood magic rituals are not necessarily needed to enter the Fade. That's just one solution to tear the veil.

And yeah, I think he can walk in and out of the Fade through using the veil tears as gates, but then again, anyone can walk physically in the Fade because the veil is sundered.

The Inquisitor's special ability is at he can close the veil tears. Which is pretty convenient.

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I have no desire to play Cole 2.0.

 

There are any number of ways for the writers to justify the Inquisitor's powers. The demon/spirit who doesn't know they're a demon/spirit is the second worst way I've seen suggested to do that.



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One thing I wonder is if there will be a prologue set during the peace conference before reality suffers a hull breach.  It would be a nice way to set up why the player character is there in the first place. 



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I like the mysterious aspect of it, and would be perfectly fine using my own explanation. A blank slate is so much more compelling than a preordained backstory; one of the many reasons Origins was oodles more engaging than Two, at least for me.



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I like the mysterious aspect of it, and would be perfectly fine using my own explanation. A blank slate is so much more compelling than a preordained backstory; one of the many reasons Origins was oodles more engaging than Two, at least for me.

 

What do you mean? Origins was hardly a blank slate. You had family life/clan life, mentors and friends, etc.. in all the origins.

 

Blank slate is more like the stuff the Elder Scrolls is known for. The prisoner waking up in a jail cell/carriage/or boat.


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Hmmm. I dunno. Could equally be that the Inquisitor is a "chosen one," or necessary for the Big Bad's plot, or that the Inquisitor was at some sort of epicenter of the Breach where physical/fade worlds blended and thus the Inquisitor got special fade powers (wrong/right place at the wrong/right time). Just because the Inquisitor emerged from the Fade, and does not know how they survived (maybe they were sleeping) does not mean they are an abomination/spirtabomination/cole/meat-suit. Maybe Flemeth saved yet another hero of the Dragon Age.



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What if that red glowing ring have something to do with it?

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What if that red glowing ring have something to do with it?

 

If I have to choose, the "Ring of Power!!!" trope is much better than "Fantasy/Space Jesus" or abomination. :D

 

At least there the taint is only my choice of accessorizing. Not my soul.



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Prediction: Inquisitor is a demon that is being manipulated by Corypheus who uses the Inquisition to take the Grey Warden, the Templars, the Circle Remnants, paving his return. 



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Yes one does, it's called a dreamer.



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This feels all too very...Elder Scrolls.  If you're ultimately possessed by a spirit of the Fade, then what's the point of race selection?  This is all just speculation.  I'd rather not speculate on the character being a "Cole" or a Revan.  That's a path that will probably just irritate me.  Hoping that the Inquisitor just has an unknown power that we've never seen before.  Spirit/Demon possession...bleh.  I want to be able to play multiple times with different kinds of characters.  If they all end up in with the same reveal,, ie the same character, I'm going to be very disappointed.


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One does not simply walk into the Fade.

 

Edit: Someone beat me to it.



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Playing as a Qunari rather than a human does not seem pointless to me. I've been wanting to walk around as a hulking beast with horns since they redesigned them in DA:II. They could be a monkey's aunt (or uncle) for all I care and I'll still be giddy for the opportunity. The bottom line is that it's Bioware's story and no matter how many choices they provide us to make, the main character still has to fit into it the way they see fit. If you want to control every tidbit of the main character, you'll have to write your own story.

 

But, I don't get into Bioware plots too deeply. I'm more interested in how good are the battle mechanics, how much can I customize, and are the companions interesting enough people to keep me engaged in the story? I'm intrigued enough. I do wish there were more Dragons though. For a game that bears their namesake, they sure don't seem to play much of a role. Yet. 



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Correct me if I am wrong but in the mask empire didn't celene and others have enchanted rings?

What if these rings you have aren't only from faction that join you, but also accessories in game that grant you abilities/effects?

Ex: templar ring gives you resistance to magic, circle ring increase magic, etc.

I was just looking over the images with the rings what I found interesting was that there was a person with black fingernails will rings on all her fingers. This figure was also holding a tome and the dress looks alot like morrigan