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#176
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So you believe the game will be a commercial failure if they add a few pics and Scenes of a female Inquisitor? Lol.

 

 

My main point was that the people in Marketing have a better idea of what needs to be done than we do. Including what's ready to be shown and the best avenue to show it. This is only the first piece of what I am going to assume will be a torrent over the next months.



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So my point stands there are to many males. 


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#178
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quality > quantity

Indeed. Those three female companions could all be good and only 2 male companions could be done well. People really need to stop obsessing over numbers.



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How is the title of this thread not considered inflammatory, Alan?

 

It's sarcastic, and I apologise for it in the OP?



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So my point stands there are to many males. 

What if there was six females and three males?



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The head morph system just got integrated not too long ago and is being iterated on - character creator does exist and I can create male/female of all the characters.  Now it needs to be amped up in fidelity and fixing the issues that exist so that they look good. 

 

Does that mean y'all are working on the neck seam issue? Because I noticed that Varric still has one. Or is that an insurmountable problem?



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right here you go http://m.uk.ign.com/...rn-mounts-added
Been out since last august.

 

 

i think you missed my point about someone else being a DA noob, or not having followed news releases, or doing research.....

 

Old news is old.....but not included in the new information release......it's weird.



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Sorry, quoting isn't working for me....But Tomb Rider is a game specifically centred on a female character. In a game where gender and race are options, you'd think they could show that a bit more, rather than the 'white male hero' all the time. No of course not because their biggest player base is male, wouldn't it be a better market strategy to, I don't know add a female and or a different coloured hero sometimes. 

 

*Well yes, looks like male players and some female players do not give a flaming **** about the sex of a character shown in trailer and general speaking if that was a problem tomb raider wouldn't had been able to sell a 1/10 in his 14 years career.*



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Models do exist now.  The head morph system just got integrated not too long ago and is being iterated on - character creator does exist and I can create male/female of all the characters.  Now it needs to be amped up in fidelity and fixing the issues that exist so that they look good.  The Inquisitor you see is actually a full on custom body mesh, including the head.  This workflow won't be representative of the game.

 

At this time I *cannot* create the Inquisitor that we see in the trailers through the character creation screen (well, unless things have changed today).  It's not an issue so much of "do they exist" but "do they look good enough?"  Though it's valid to suggest that we could have spent some time making a custom female body mesh too.  Unfortunately I don't have any visibility on how long something like that takes, so I can only make suppositions as to why they didn't.

 

So does that mean that there might be a special human male inquisitor with a unique body mesh, a bit like how Sheploo was a 'special' manshep as it was uncreatable in the character creator? Or is that just a temp. model? Or perhaps all races.sexes will have a unique one?

 

Also, sorry for asking so many questions, and thanks for answering them. Damn my curiosity >:(



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What if there was six females and three males?

 

That would be just as bad, although it would at least be different to every other game.

 

Arguably, an attempt at subversion could be very effective.

 

But yes, I would personally regard that as just as bad.



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So my point stands there are to many males. 

 well may be for you:) im liking that ;)



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i think you missed my point about someone else being a DA noob, or not having followed news releases, or doing research.....

Old news is old.....but not included in the new information release......it's weird.

Oh sorry I genuinely thought you didn't know. But back to your point, yes I suppose it is odd that they havnt put that in the website. Still I think the fact that the options will be in the game is the important part.

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 well may be for you:) im liking that ;)

 

Now actually liking something purely because it has more males than females probably is sexism :P



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Oh sorry I genuinely thought you didn't know. But back to your point, yes I suppose it is odd that they havnt put that in the website. Still I think the fact that the options will be in the game is the important part.

 

Well, officially, on the website, it HASN"T been confirmed yet that those options are in the game.



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At this time I *cannot* create the Inquisitor that we see in the trailers through the character creation screen (well, unless things have changed today).  It's not an issue so much of "do they exist" but "do they look good enough?"  Though it's valid to suggest that we could have spent some time making a custom female body mesh too.  Unfortunately I don't have any visibility on how long something like that takes, so I can only make suppositions as to why they didn't.

Oh no no, i already started imagining playing the inquisitor form that trailer :(



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So does that mean that there might be a special human male inquisitor with a unique body mesh, a bit like how Sheploo was a 'special' manshep as it was uncreatable in the character creator? Or is that just a temp. model? Or perhaps all races.sexes will have a unique one?

 

Also, sorry for asking so many questions, and thanks for answering them. Damn my curiosity > :(

 

At this point there is a unique one.  I don't know if it will remain that way at release.



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"Sitting down and shutting up" re: equal representation in video game marketing means never getting equal representation. Squeaky wheel and all that.

Just because it isn't important to you doesn't mean it isn't important to me, and nobody can tell me what to think or feel. Nobody.

 

I'm less upset about the 6:3 gender ratio. DA:O had less female companions than males, but I thought the female companions were great, and made up for quantity with quality. I'm willing to believe DAI will do the same.


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Now actually liking something purely because it has more males than females probably is sexism :P

weeell, it just adds more males for me to look at:) i like to drool over cute male comps, it it sexism? :P


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Apologies for the title; you can see it for its sarcasm I hope.

 

Now I do have utmost faith in Bioware that later on we will be able to see different kinds of Inquisitor, but I am rather perplexed as to why such a great effort was made with the game cover and none made with the trailer to show different Inquisitors.

 

Yes, there was a different class which was nice, but so far we have seen no different race (with regards to either different human races or fantasy ones), nor sex of Inquisitor, and I just don't get why.

 

I really don't want to seem like I don't appreciate everything they have done - especially with dat cover - to leave the sex at least of the Inquisitor ambiguous, but when in every single gameplay video we have seen it is a white male human - when we know they they have made other Inquisitors, as can be seen from the save files when they loaded a save game last year - I'm just puzzled why they wouldn't take this chance to show the range of Inquisitors available.

 

Anyway, this thread will probably descend into all kinds of flame wars and trolling, but I just wanted to get my message across, that in a game that focuses so much on choice it's a shame that all public gameplay we have seen includes - to my knowledge at least - the exact same Inquisitor.

 

(I'm not going to bother to mention the 3/6 female/male split in companions as it's not entirely relevant, but I certainly found that disappointing too.)

 

 

Thanks for reading.

 

EDIT: Had to capitalise Inquisitor because I'm a fool and didn't to begin with.

 

MY ****** KINGDOM FOR A FEMALE INQUISTOR



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I'm not seeing what demands that the number of females even be close to the number of males, or how them not being there means anything more than them not being there. 


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I would like 50/50 split with six companions. I already said that.

In past games it is was always close to that, if there is one more male or one more female I would not mind at all but only half? Nop, that to me it is a problem. 



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I'm not seeing what demands that the number of females even be close to the number of males, or how them not being there means anything more than them not being there. 

 

This.



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Now actually liking something purely because it has more males than females probably is sexism :P

 

*lol*

 

I'm actually suprized they did the 6/3 gender ratio.

 

Just from the POV of 'potential romancable' characters.

 

Just think, male-gamer picks up the game....sees that there are 6 male companions and only 3 female companions, thinks no big deal....."got my bro party! and some eye candy"...find out that you can romance characters (assuming they didn't already know)....thinks, "yeah! But WTH Bioware......giving special priviledge to female gamers, they have more options!" And then if not all three of those female companions are romanceable? Or they find out there's an option to play as a gay male???? Expect more of a storm....unless you can romance those 2 female NPCs.....then they will complain that you cant take them out with you (if that is in fact the case).

And unless they come to the boards they may never find out that the female and gay male gamers only get 1 of those 6 companions and the NPC Cullen as romance choices......compared to their ability to pick from Scribe Girl, Sera, Cassanda....*

 

*note: just hypothetical outline on my part.



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I'm not seeing what demands that the number of females even be close to the number of males, or how them not being there means anything more than them not being there. 

 

 

This.

It's just BSN having their priorities in line as usual.



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I'll just leave this last comment.

 

The trailer is called Dragon Age Inquisition Gameplay trailer, which unsurprisingly is designed first and foremost to show of gameplay. If it was a trailer designed around customization you might actually have a point, but it's not and you don't


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