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Did the Warden ever return through the Eluvian?


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Bullets McDeath

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I know some variation of this has probably been asked before but I've never quite found the answer I'm looking for.

 

At the end of Witch Hunt, you can choose to have the Warden follow Morrigan through the Eluvian. 

 

No matter what you choose to do, by the end of Dragon Age II, the Warden is "missing". Now, I'd always assumed that Witch Hunt took place many years after Awakening, but apparently it's only 2 years or something, which means it happens sometime around Act 2 of Dragon Age II. 

 

In Act 3 of DAII (several years after Witch Hunt, by any method of counting), during the King Alistair cameo, it is mentioned that Alistair and Teagan are expecting to see the Warden shortly. I know that DAII doesn't pull any flags from Witch Hunt so this may not be exactly "correct". It's also possible that the Warden never showed for the meeting or that he had agreed to meet them several years ago (that one is kind of stretching it) but I guess I'm wondering if there is any official answer for the question in the title:

 

Did the Warden ever return through the Eluvian? Or put another way, since the Warden is missing no matter what, are Wardens who went through the Eluvian missing for that reason? Or do they eventually come back from that journey, do other stuff (like arrange meetings with Alistair) and then disappear for other, different reasons?

 

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Maybe the inquisitor could be the Warden, if he\she is alive in your playthrough. And pops out of the fade or whatever. If he is dead you get "the orlesian warden" solution from Awakening.



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It's a mystery. A cliffhanger that has lasted too long for it's own good.


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Given that Morrigan herself returned, I doubt she would have trapped her lover in wherever the Eluvian leads. So, I think the references in DA II Act 3 were simply bugs, but the Warden's probably back now. 



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My Warden is teaching his widdle Warden Jr. how to pick up women.


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I don't even care about Morrigan, personally. It's the fact that any Warden disappears that confuses me. I can kind of see Flemeth getting revenge if you were just out and about.. but if you spare Flemeth, then she says you'll never meet again. So that's out too. It's a damn mystery where the Warden is.



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Maybe the inquisitor could be the Warden, if he\she is alive in your playthrough. And pops out of the fade or whatever. If he is dead you get "the orlesian warden" solution from Awakening.

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Very unlikely 



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Flemeth and Morrigan ate the Warden, in the Eluvian. The waren who is now back, isn`t the warden at all. Just a thing they created to take his place.



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My Warden is in Par Vollen.



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I'm just curious and currently skitzing out about it as I'm nearing the end Origins again for probably the last time for the foreseeable future. Haven't decided if this one will go through the mirror or not and for me it would help to have some idea of whether going through means he's gone and no one's seen him since, or if he eventually popped back out and then disappeared later for some other reason.

 

I understand if Bioware would rather answer this in the game than the forums, but it'd be great to know. I do agree it feels like we've been waiting foreeeeeeever to learn the Warden's final fate.



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I'm just curious and currently skitzing out about it as I'm nearing the end Origins again for probably the last time for the foreseeable future. Haven't decided if this one will go through the mirror or not and for me it would help to have some idea of whether going through means he's gone and no one's seen him since, or if he eventually popped back out and then disappeared later for some other reason.

 

I understand if Bioware would rather answer this in the game than the forums, but it'd be great to know. I do agree it feels like we've been waiting foreeeeeeever to learn the Warden's final fate.

 

I'd say just do it if you romance Morrigan. You at least get some kind of "complete" story that way.

 

It's everyone else that has a half-assed story. They just disappear for no reason.



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I never went through that mirror, duster. The only reason I'm "missing" is because the Chantry is to stupid to look for a dwarf underground.
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I'd say just do it if you romance Morrigan. You at least get some kind of "complete" story that way.

 

It's everyone else that has a half-assed story. They just disappear for no reason.

 

See, that's what I had always kind of gone with. Most of my Wardens romanced Morrigan and all of them chose the Dark Ritual, so it was like yeah... he stepped in to wherever the Eluvian goes to be with Morrigan and his child, and no one has seen him since. Sounds like a good ending to me.

 

But then there was that line in DA2 (which, as I said, may not be "correct") which implies that the Warden HAS been seen since. And this Warden romanced Morrigan but then she when she breaks it off, he romanced Leliana and stayed with her. So, I'm torn. On the one hand, I might not have him go because he wouldn't be following his lost true love (just a former lover), on the other hand I might because he does care about Morrigan and he would want to see his child. Knowing whether he ever comes back or not would help with that decision.



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Only a "male" Warden can go through the Eluvian, so, please for the love of the Maker, NO.



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See, that's what I had always kind of gone with. Most of my Wardens romanced Morrigan and all of them chose the Dark Ritual, so it was like yeah... he stepped in to wherever the Eluvian goes to be with Morrigan and his child, and no one has seen him since. Sounds like a good ending to me.

 

But then there was that line in DA2 (which, as I said, may not be "correct") which implies that the Warden HAS been seen since. And this Warden romanced Morrigan but then she when she breaks it off, he romanced Leliana and stayed with her. So, I'm torn. On the one hand, I might not have him go because he wouldn't be following his lost true love (just a former lover), on the other hand I might because he does care about Morrigan and he would want to see his child. Knowing whether he ever comes back or not would help with that decision.

 

Oh, I see your confusion. I don't know how all the timelines line up. Just keep in mind that DA2 takes place over a period of 10 years. I think Alistair shows up in Act 2? So it might be the time Witch Hunt is happening. By the end though, Leliana says your Warden and Hawke are gone. It's been quite awhile at this point.



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Well, based on TME, I would say that if the Warden went through the Eluvian with Morrigan, they really just used it to travel to where-ever Morrigan's been hanging out. Which both the epilogue cards of DA:O and the trailers for DA:I seem to indicate is Orlias. They aren't just hanging out in Eluvian-land because....I can't figure out spoiler tags so I won't say it.

 

So Warden-who-went-through-the-eluvian are probably just as free to travel Thedas as any other Warden. So I would say they have just as likely a reason to disappear as any other Warden.



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Well, based on TME, I would say that if the Warden went through the Eluvian with Morrigan, they really just used it to travel to where-ever Morrigan's been hanging out. Which both the epilogue cards of DA:O and the trailers for DA:I seem to indicate is Orlias. They aren't just hanging out in Eluvian-land because....I can't figure out spoiler tags so I won't say it.

 

So Warden-who-went-through-the-eluvian are probably just as free to travel Thedas as any other Warden. So I would say they have just as likely a reason to disappear as any other Warden.

 

Not sure it'd be fun for elves either. At one time, yes, but I suspect it could be corrupted from what it was. Some of the Dalish origin indicates it's connection to darkspawn...possibly the Fade.. who knows. Something not good. I suspect someone screwed it up. Not the place of rest it used to be at least.



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Ah, haven't read that. Hmm. Well, this Warden is an elf, in fact. But that's interesting. I had assumed it was some special pocket of the Fade, not just somewhere else in Thedas on the other end. Well, that's something to consider. I suppose I'll have to get over not knowing for now. Sometimes I RP my Wardens too hard and stuff like this drives me bonkers  :ph34r:

 

It seems safe to assume that the Eluvian is not the reason for the Warden's disappearance. Which makes sense, since it's more likely for there to be a uniform reason the for the disappearance, whatever it is. It hadn't even occured to me that it wasn't an option for female Wardens, durr. So I think I'll go with, the Warden does come back and is known to have returned, but disappeared later for other reasons.

 

Now to decide if this warden should go through or not...  :wizard:



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Ah, haven't read that. Hmm. Well, this Warden is an elf, in fact. But that's interesting. I had assumed it was some special pocket of the Fade, not just somewhere else in Thedas on the other end. Well, that's something to consider. I suppose I'll have to get over not knowing for now. Sometimes I RP my Wardens too hard and stuff like this drives me bonkers  :ph34r:

 

I think they intend on telling more in the new game. It's just that the wait sucks. It's not like TV cliffhangers, where we get a new episode every week (or just watch them all on netflix lol). It didn't help matters that DA2 was an unrelated story. So we went an extra three years or so without any sign of the Warden's story.



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I hope whatever is on the other side of the Eluvian is very very disturbing and creepy, though.



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I like to think that my warden is travelling around and seeing stuff

atleast until bioware gives an update on warden status



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I like to think that my warden is travelling around and seeing stuff

atleast until bioware gives an update on warden status

 

So your Warden is Anthony Bourdain?

 

Sounds cool.



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I think that the fact that EVERY Warden is missing at the end of DA2 (regardless of choice) and the big point they make of Hawke being missing "just like the Hero of Ferelden) show that their disappearance is A) linked and B) no coincidence.

 

Unless Hawke found an Eluvian somewhere too.....  



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I wondered this too. I remember taking my Amell mage through the mirror with Morrigan at the end of Witch Hunt but Teagen reminded Alistair in Kirkwall that the "Hero of Ferelden" was due back in Denerim soon so....I guess he did???



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I never got the King Alistair cameo, having crowned Anora myself. That said, I see several possibilities:

 

1) Alistair and Teagan are lying. Ferelden's Hero has been missing for several years, and if word gets out, it could be seen as political weakness. Thus, they're trying to make it seem as though he's still around, just laying low.

 

2) They're telling the truth, and the Warden returned temporarily, perhaps to impart them with important information found on the other side of the Eluvian. He then disappears through the Eluvian again.

 

3) They're telling the truth, and the Warden aimed to return permanently. Someone or something caused him to vanish.