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[Faerah]

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"The Forgotten Boy": Cole is recruited at two different points in the game depending on one major decision you make. If you choose to do "Champions of the Just" quest, you will encounter him during it. If you choose instead to do "In Hushed Whispers" quest, you will encounter Cole later during "In Your Heart Shall Burn" quest. This will be after you have completed all of "In Hushed Whispers". You have the option of turning this companion away.

 

Approval: He will gain approval for helping the helpless, even the most minor tasks. He also gains approval by punishing people that have hurt or killed innocent people. When judging people at your throne, he will prefer you killing guilty parties as opposed to jailing them. This is due to his personal experience in the dungeon in the White Spire in Orlais in the book Asunder.

 

You've Done Odd Things: After you recruit Cole and go to Skyhold, strange things happen around the fortress. You investigate by hearing special ambient dialogue around the various locations of Skyhold. After you hear about the strange occurrences, you can talk to Cole and find more ambient dialogue that explain what's going on. After the second ambient dialogue of each strange thing, you can gain approval from Cole by talking to him about it and choosing the Star conversation option.

 

Plums on the windowsill:

1. Woman dusting a table just inside of the tavern's front door to the right.
2. Woman outside of the tavern, by the tavern's north eastern wall (between the tavern and the blacksmith building).

 

Barrel full of daggers:

1. Man on the ramparts outside of Cullen's office (go out of the northwest door of the office).
2. Woman standing right by the gate to the large bridge leading out of Skyhold (the gate is near the vendors and surgeon area).

 

Missing wheel of cheese and crushed mint:

1. Woman in the kitchen.
2. Woman at the bar in the tavern.
3. Woman in the kitchen.

 

Burnt turnips in the fireplaces:

1. Man sweeping near the front (entrance side) of the throne room.
2. Man outside of the blacksmith building (between the tavern and the blacksmith building).

Bread on the battlements:

1. Kitchen
2. Surgeon Tents

 

Note: You may need to talk to Cole about the strange things happening or freshly load into Skyhold to get the next steps to trigger.

 

War Table: Cole's War Table operations will trigger after talking to him about his friends Rhys and Evangeline. He will say not to contact them, but don't let this deter you, he will be grateful after you complete them.

 

"Subjected to His Will": Cole's major companion quest will become available after completing "Here Lies the Abyss" quest. The first part is a War Table operation triggered by talking with Cole. Following this up will eventually lead to you being taken to Redcliffe Village where a major decision must be made about Cole. Both options will change Cole and his follow up conversations and epilogue.

Note: one of the choices will lock you out of completing the "You've Done Strange Things" portion of Cole's character arc. It's suggested you complete that before moving on to "Here Lies the Abyss".

 

Find more relevant info here:  http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Cole

 

 

Cole is voiced by James Norton. Cole is one of the nine companions in Dragon Age: Inquisition and written by Patrick Weekes. He uses the assassination specialization. Cole is a main character in the novel Dragon Age: Asunder written by David Gaider.

 

From the website:

He is a ghost in the shadows, walking unnoticed through crowds. He can slit an enemy's throat before they even realize he's there, and slip away, never to be seen again. Those few who do notice him soon forget he ever existed… and Cole isn't certain that he does exist. He is a spirit, impossibly caught between the immaterial realm of the Fade and the confusing realities of our physical world, but does that make him real? Does it make him human or a demonic pretender, as some believe?

All Cole knows for certain is that the world is full of pain and he must find his place within it. Those who wish to restore order and help the helpless will find him a strange but unwavering ally. Those who use their power for selfish reasons may never see Cole again—if they remember that he was there to begin with.

 

Interview with Patrick Weekes

[DRAGON AGE]: When we last spoke, we talked about the Iron Bull, but you're also the writer for Cole. What can you tell us about him?

[PATRICK WEEKES]: Imagine going through this world knowing that you're different, but not knowing how. Imagine trying to find out the truth about what you are—a mage? A demon?—and never being sure that you can trust the answer, or that your friends will still support you when the truth, whatever it is, comes out.

[DA]: The proverbial being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[PW]: Exactly. That was Cole's character arc in the wonderful Dragon Age: Asunder, by our lead writer, David Gaider… and now that character arc is done. In this game, we find out what happens next.

[DA]: So, you're taking over a character originally penned by David Gaider. No pressure, obviously.

[PW]: Indeed. Dave is great at creating sympathetic characters, and I loved Cole's arc in the novel. I was guessing at his true nature until the climax of the book. But I couldn't just tell that story again. The character has to grow, for one thing… and also, that arc was tied to Cole not knowing what he is. Once Seeker Lambert whips out the Litany of Adralla, that pretty much narrows Cole down to blood mage or demon, and since he wasn't using blood magic…

[DA]: So, Cole is definitely a demon?

[PW]: Welllllllll… he's definitely somewhere on the Demon-or-Spirit Spectrum of Fade Creatures (which I really hope exists somewhere). A lot of people will always see him as a demon. He would rather be a spirit. He's trying.

[DA]: It sounds like Cole suffers from a very complicated existence.

[PW]: Now that he has accepted his nature, he's less constrained by human limitations. He can sense people's pain, which is actually what he was doing back in Asunder without realizing it, when he found the mages who were terrified and desperate enough to be able to see him. He can find people who are hurting, people in need, and he can help them.

[DA]: Clearly, there is no foreseeable way that could go wrong.

[PW]: Cole remains a work in progress, yes. Anyone who allows him to join the Inquisition (and because there are people whose response to him in Asunder was, "Demon? LOL NOPE," allowing him to join is optional) is going to hear about some weird things happening, with no one quite sure who put all those turnips in the fireplace or why the battlements are covered with loaves of bread.

[DA]: You mentioned that the player can choose not to have Cole join the Inquisition. Are the other followers going to have an opinion?

[PW]: Oh, Maker, yes. Vivienne thinks Cole should be safely banished, and Sera refuses to talk to "it" entirely.

[DA]: As does the Iron Bull, presumably. You said during a previous interview that he had athing about demons.

[PW]: See, Bull is funny. He does hate demons, but if you're on the team, you're on the team. In Bull's mind, Cole is a weird squirrelly kid who just needs a night of good drinks and bad women to get him sorted out.

[DA]: Well, since you wrote Cole, tell us why you think he would make a great follower.

[PW]: If you want someone who can move around the battlefield undetected, sinking daggers into enemies who never see him coming, Cole is your guy. He can still make people forget him, but he's no longer the scared young man who couldn't stand against Seeker Lambert inAsunder. He knows he's more than human, and he is absolutely deadly when faced with foes who want to hurt innocent people (which safely applies to most of the Inquisition's enemies).

[DA]: Useful!

[PW]: Beyond his skill in combat, though… Cole wants to help people who are hurting. He may not always get it right, but he never stops caring. He will walk into the most painful moment of someone's life and offer them comfort without hesitation or judgment. And then he will disappear from their mind and walk away, because it's not about getting thanked, or even remembered. It's about helping.

[DA]: That's very touching.

[PW]: That's how Cole has grown since the events of Asunder. That's where he's going now. I hope people like where it takes him.

 

[David Gaider]

I don't think a creative director or producer could (or would) strong-arm Gaider into making Cole a romance based on "fan demand."
I do think they could (and would) force the issue because Cole's character concept is a handsome blonde young man who needs your love to heal his tortured soul. He's a perfect BioWare romance plot, and his character design is conventionally attractive.

That being said, I would not underestimate Gaider's clout among the rest of the team. He's the Lead Writer for a reason.

Disclaimer: Not a fan of the whole "love heals" schtick myself, but hey, it sells.

 

Two things to point out:

 

1) I'm not the sole arbiter of who is romanced, it's very true. The leads on the project, however, are well aware that there's some demand to romance anyone. If they overruled me based purely on the fact that some folks might want to have a romance with a particular character, we'd have to romance everyone.

 

2) Before someone goes on at length about how "conventionally attractive" the character they're referring to as "Cole" is, they might want to wait until they actually get a closer look. As a suggestion.

[David Gaider]

I don't really have a stake in the romance discussion(not a part of bioware games I'm invested in) but will we be getting this "closer look" at E3?

 

You'll have to watch the E3 coverage and see, I suppose. There's nothing I can reveal about it beforehand.

[David Gaider]

I'm interested in how the team chooses romanceable characters! I can only assume the character's appearance has something to do with it.
I remember reading/watching dev talk about The Old Republic, where a character designer lamented that they were told to change a character's broken nose because the character was a love interest and had to look "pretty."

 

Character appearance has less to do with the choice than you'd think. Discussions regarding who's romanced happen pretty early, when all we have to go on is early concept art--maybe. A lot can change between that time and release, and usually does. So the fact that someone is a romanceable character factors more into their appearance development later, rather than the other way around.

 

And it would be a lie to say it doesn't factor in to some extent. There's a limit to how much, of course. An artist being asked to make someone "conventionally attractive" sits about as well with them as someone asking to make a story "have more mass appeal" would have with me. Our interpretation of such a request would be that they want the character/story to be more boring, whereas we like the ugly bits that make something more unique and interesting. That said, if the character artists take a romanceable character and produce a face that we can't imagine anyone wanting to kiss, a discussion will be had no matter how "interesting" they think the character looks. That consideration, however, does not generally overrule everything else. It's a negotiation.

[Allan Schumacher]

Hm, what am I supposed to be looking at?  I don't see anything.

 

What was I doing just now? Hmm...

 

Who?

[Allan Schumacher]

CRIES WITH IMMENSE, EUPHORIC JOY

 

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY O BLESS THIS DAY PRAISE THE MAKER i love u bioware i cant handle my feelings rn

 

See, this is why we can't release too much too quickly.  Enthusiasm overload is a very serious risk and the health implications cannot be ignored!

 

This is for your own safety.  Carry on. 

[David Gaider]

From the angle of his shoulder, you can tell Cole has his arm around like a hug.

 

HAHAHAHAHA

 

*cough* *cough*

 

HHAHAHAAAaaah.

[David Gaider]

A lot of people are acting like certain things are confirmed and set in stone when they have not been. They take a piece of what David said and apply it to all things everywhere.

 

Yep. I was referring to his ability to comfortably form consent... which (in my mind) requires a certain level of maturity and understanding.

 

I am not, however, the final arbiter of what qualifies as consent. Also, the chances you'll get an unbiased answer regarding Cole from me are approximately zero (just ask Patrick). Either way, it's important to remember that Cole is not human. There are a lot of things that people will try to draw direct comparisons to, and that's a dicey thing to do with a character like him--particularly for people who are arguing about a character they've yet to encounter.

[Allan Schumacher]

Question to the thread:

 

 

Would it be considered appropriate to leave this thread's purpose to be more for vocal supporters of Cole, or would it be okay if people come in to discuss the character even if it's because they are not a fan of Cole and find parts of his character problematic and worthy of challenging?

 

I ask because there was a thread yesterday that I closed, and while some posters agreed that it needed to be closed, they would like to still discuss Cole's nature and whatnot but was concerned it wasn't appropriate to discuss here because they didn't want to come across as buzzkills and out of courtesy felt off entering the thread.

 

Alternatively we can create a different thread, but I just want to make sure that people feel it would be better that way.

[Allan Schumacher]

So...to people who don't like Cole, post away!  Just please leave out words like emo, gross, and "I want to murder-knife him."

 

 

Indeed.  Thanks!  If you see this coming up by posters, please file reports and feel free to link this post in the report just so that the mod that happens to see it has some context that I've instructed people to NOT behave this way.

 

Which if it's not clear, please do not come into the thread simply to give a one off about how Cole is ugly, gross, lame, or some other minimalist contrarian comment as it's not particularly compelling to discussion.

 

 

Cheers.

[Allan Schumacher]

Thank you. yesterday I was really wishing there was some sort of "bat signal" for a moderator to come save us. 

 

Filing reports helps.  There usually isn't toooooooooooooo much delay, but sometimes it's just inconvenient timing and it may last a bit.

 

Report what has been seen and try to not engage if you feel people are just being antagonistic towards supporters.  It happened once in the Cullen thread and they were pretty bang up on not engaging and just reporting, which kept the off topic stuff to a minimum (making it easier to clean) while not escalating.  And yes, "report and ignore" is valid if it's a huge problem.

 

Thanks!

[Allan Schumacher]

Hm why moderators forbid express negative opinion about character that topic is? Isn't that topic to discuss your feelings about this particular character not just squee that will fill 1000 pages?

 

If your contribution to the thread is simply "OMG he's ugly" then you're just antagonizing people that are fans.  You're also implicitly suggesting that people that like him have wrong opinions.  It leads me to ask why you are sharing that.

 

The opposite, however, is that if I say "oh my god he's so interesting" there's little implicit commentary that "people who disagree with me have the wrong opinion."

 

 

 

If you have issues with Cole as you know him, then yes feel free to express it.  It's valid to suggest that he's less worthy of sympathy because of the actions he has taken.

 

It's very much along the same lines as me having no problems with one poster telling another poster "I think you're great" as opposed to "I think you're an idiot."

[Allan Schumacher]

*facepalms*

 

Guys, didn't the mod just say to report and move on when somebody tries to incite arguments/start a flame war?

 

To be fair, it was a question asked, so I decided to take it as an opportunity to elaborate and I hope that that has been cleared out.

 

Thanks to people for bringing it to my attention though.

[Allan Schumacher]

I feel it would be better to have that as a separate topic as a form of contingency. Arguments and discussions can be fun but they can also be hated and antagonistic, thus ending with a closed thread. And I don't want to see a good thread go down because it became a war zone.

 

I'll reevaluate if it comes to that.  I do have a preference to keep Cole related discussion together, but if it ends up being an issue I'll go along a different path.