It is strange that Lambert senses Cole and Rhys doesn't.
The whole scene in the book where Cole first sees Lambert is strange, though. I almost wonder if Lambert was already hitting the red lyrium and that's the strange, dark power that Cole didn't see in the other templars at the White Spire.
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“Sometimes I feel like I’m underwater, and I won’t ever get out again. I just keep sinking and sinking, and there’s no bottom. The darkness is going to swallow me up.”
Oh my god...that's amazing. And so infinitely sad. I empathize greatly with how Cole feels. Thank you for posting this.
Just finished Asunder and as long as he hasn't gone completely to the dark side and there's a little bit of the adorable boy who would do anything for Rhys left I'm totally up for having him around, at least as long as I can earn that loyalty. I loved all the characters but Cole was possibly my favorite.
Oh my god...that's amazing. And so infinitely sad. I empathize greatly with how Cole feels. Thank you for posting this.
Thank the artist that made it. I am but a messenger. 
It is strange that Lambert senses Cole and Rhys doesn't.
The whole scene in the book where Cole first sees Lambert is strange, though. I almost wonder if Lambert was already hitting the red lyrium and that's the strange, dark power that Cole didn't see in the other templars at the White Spire.
Yeah it really never made any sense to me either that only Lambert was able to do... that. Seems so sure of himself that Cole being a demon, able to almost point him out in Evas room, and even had the book thing. Is that a book that is more then one or was there ever that one from DAO and his copy is DAOs copy but got his hands on? If that's so, why in the world is there not more of those laying around if it's so effective? Or maybe it was just a little Easter egg and I'm thinking too much into how he got that.
Maybe something happened to him during that fight with the Black Divine that the Black Divine did to him.
Gasp, maybe the Black Divine later picked up his old friends body and took it home after Lambert 'vanished/murdered' by Cole. Or whatever Lamberts secret powers manifested when Cole had the knife to him and was able to shoo Cole away and run away screaming into the night.
Some Seekers are in fact templars, if not most of them (Cassandra is not as far as we know I think?). But...Lambert's powers seem...different than normal templars, as that none of the other templars in the White Spire sensed Cole. I have also theorized that Lambert might have gotten his hands on some red lyrium, but may have taken it in manageable doses as to not be afflicted with what happened to Meredith.
Lambert was a Templar in Tevinter I believe. His training was probably different than the Templars we've seen.
Hm, true. It would be interesting if Tevinter templars had different skills to combat the potentially more powerful and talented mages there. I've always wondered about why Cole describes what he senses in Lambert as "dark" though. I wonder if we'll find out, if Lambert isn't dead.
I just wonder if some higher-ups in the order weren't already experimenting with the red lyrium at this point in the timeline. We know they're rampant by time we start the game. Do you think nobody was using it until after they broke away from the Chantry? And then it picked up and spread so suddenly? It seems likely to me that it could have been secretly in use to some extent before the break and likely some higher members of the order that were already on it influenced the lower ranks into using once they were out from under the Chantry. I could just see Lambert as being one of those that were already using. Maybe not, but I wouldn't be surprised at all.
I just wonder if some higher-ups in the order weren't already experimenting with the red lyrium at this point in the timeline. We know they're rampant by time we start the game. Do you think nobody was using it until after they broke away from the Chantry? And then it picked up and spread so suddenly? It seems likely to me that it could have been secretly in use to some extent before the break and likely some higher members of the order that were already on it influenced the lower ranks into using once they were out from under the Chantry. I could just see Lambert as being one of those that were already using. Maybe not, but I wouldn't be surprised at all.
If this were to occur, I'd guess it would only be that they inquired into Meredith's demise, figured out what the lyrium was and managed to find some in Orlais. Or perhaps Meredith made others aware of what she had found.
If this were to occur, I'd guess it would only be that they inquired into Meredith's demise, figured out what the lyrium was and managed to find some in Orlais. Or perhaps Meredith made others aware of what she had found.
Well, I believe by that point in the book they say that it's been a year since the Kirkwall incident. That means they've had a whole year to find the red lyrium in Kirkwall and begin distributing it. I don't think it necessarily needs to be a second deposit in Orlais, but it could be.
Well, I believe by that point in the book they say that it's been a year since the Kirkwall incident. That means they've had a whole year to find the red lyrium in Kirkwall and begin distributing it. I don't think it necessarily needs to be a second deposit in Orlais, but it could be.
Well, actually, Asunder takes place in 9:40 Dragon, while Anders blows up the Chantry in 9:37, so it's actually been 3 years, but otherwise, it's a plausible theory.
Well, actually, Asunder takes place in 9:40 Dragon, while Anders blows up the Chantry in 9:37, so it's actually been 3 years, but otherwise, it's a plausible theory.
I can never keep the dates straight. lol
I can never keep the dates straight. lol
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Ok, I think I have to come back and explain a few things about my view of Cole. I don't hate the character of Cole, as a matter of fact, I think he is an outstanding addition to the DA universe and a very well developed character for the story in Asunder. I guess I am breaking a bit of the 4th wall when it comes to him tho, as I am using my knowledge of the character from the book to influence how my Inquisitor will act in the game. I don't hate him as a character, I just see him for what he is, a demon. And I know there will be those that try to argue against me on this, but the major clue was there at the end when *spoiler!!!* Lambert used the Litany of Adralla on Cole and dispelled everything he was doing. It was at that point that both Cole and Rhys realized what Cole was. The Litany only works on blood magic and demons, as stated in the wiki. It would not have worked unless Cole is either a blood mage or demon. My problem with Cole is that so many seem to dismiss this out of hand and only focus on the little crying image of a boy that this demon is attempting to emulate (although I will accede to the point that I do not believe the demon was being malevolent about it, as it did not remember that it was a demon until the end).
What I was trying to get across before was that I am going to have to reserve final judgment about Cole when I meet him in game as "me" knowing what he is should not dictate how my character perceives him in game. Eliminate as much of the 4th wall breaking as I can. But since I "do" know what he is, I personally would not hesitate to send him back to the fade.
What we all have to keep in mind is that the whole question now floating around regarding Cole's status is a thing being directed toward potential players that have not read Asunder and do not know what he is. Since it is very likely that many players of DA:I will not have read the book and need to be hooked onto the character as an awesome mystery to solve.
I know I am probably not clearing up my views on Cole as much as I would like, but let's all just agree that he is a very interesting take on how a spirit/demon would try to emulate a person.
Also, I think that if they go one way, I could be perfectly satisfied with him as a companion. If there was the option in game, to influence him to become a good "spirit," or to drive him to be full on "demon," that would be an awesome character mechanic.
Also-also, to those talking about romancing Cole? Are you serious? This has nothing to do with any "vibe" or any crap like that. DG himself stated he's an adult with the mind of a 12 year old! That's just sick really...
I can understand that you don't trust Cole because of what he is/may be (blood mage/demon/spirit). If I didn't read Asunder and I found out in the game that hes some kind of demon, I would probably keep my distance. But in the book, Cole didn't like killing people and seemed to be conflicted about the deed. He doesn't have any malice towards them like other demons would have towards their victims and animals seemed to like him. He also didn't fit any of the demon classes (hunger, pride, desire, etc) plus its not specified if the Litany of Adralla works on other Fade creatures as well. This made me very curious about him. I think I'm going to postpone my judgements on this until I know exactly what he is. Based on his personalty/character alone he has become one of favourite characters in the Dragon Age universe and I look forward to having him as a companion.
I think Cole is going to be like the companion for new players. Cole is probably going to question everything that goes on in the world. Wasn't Vega from ME3 like that?
Little late to the convo......but there's as great deal of difference between cole's lack of mental maturity due to his condition and fenris slapping you in the face with "broody elf angst" at every turn in the game.
You're right. And Fenris is more akin to PTSD, while Cole is more like depression. Whether people actually differentiate the two is their decision though I guess.
Edit: differentiate, understand, and maybe even sympathize
I think Cole is going to be like the companion for new players. Cole is probably going to question everything that goes on in the world. Wasn't Vega from ME3 like that?
I didn't really think about it in this way, but yeah, probably. Plus his open ended arc and no resolution to what he is. Plus his connection to the Fade. Even before we saw (probably) him in the end of the last trailer, I was fairly convinced he'd be a companion just because of how characters represent groups/conflicts/viewpoints in the game. The "new person informer" thing adds to that list nicely.
Well, considering the main cast of Asunder, and DG saying we would get one of them in DA:I, I always suspected we would get Cole, as much as I would have preferred a different one. His character and story presentation to me was given as the most likely to be "needed" to carry over and explain more. All the rest had a kind of finalization to their tales, while his was left open.
You're right. And Fenris is more akin to PTSD, while Cole is more like depression. Whether people actually differentiate the two is their decision though I guess.
I more compare the two in stride because of how similar the reaction to Fenris when DAII was about. A huge split between those enjoying him and those who don't because of how he acts. Fenris had his own set of issues that I always saw being done very well, it's more of a shame he like many of the characters in 2 got a bit trimmed short.
Oh and I hope that Cole is the questioner, he rarely got the chance to question people about things and now that he has the chance he can just flood it out.
I vaguely remember him wanting to ask what a press gang was, and then him choosing to not ask because he felt he hit his limit for stupid questions or some such. I can definitely imagine him asking about more complex things, especially as a mechanic to inform new players.
Also-also, to those talking about romancing Cole? Are you serious? This has nothing to do with any "vibe" or any crap like that. DG himself stated he's an adult with the mind of a 12 year old! That's just sick really...
Nope, nothing can be done here, sorry
I vaguely remember him wanting to ask what a press gang was, and then him choosing to not ask because he felt he hit his limit for stupid questions or some such. I can definitely imagine him asking about more complex things, especially as a mechanic to inform new players.
This particular feature of him reminds more of Merrill than of Fenris. And Fenris is aggressive too much, unlike Cole. So it seems that Cole will be more like Merrill, but in a "dark", "depressed" and "demonic" way.
As for him being a demon, there are some clues that question such a conclusion. He may use blood magic and may not be entirely human, but that doesn't mean that he is definitely a demon. Even if he is, than we are looking at a whole brand new, more complex kind of demon than we have seen before, and it just adds more interest to him.
A little pic I made a long time ago, inspired by Asunder 
I was actually losing interest in DA:I for various reasons until they released that gameplay trailer, and I saw that Cole was a companion. Well, if that's even Cole.
I guess it might be kinda sad that I like a character from a novel so much that them appearing in a game is one of the main/only reasons I'm buying it, but whatever.
Cole has become my favorite character in Dragon Age, and I'm really looking forward to possibly figuring out what he is, because it's been bugging me ever since I finished Asunder.
Also really hoping my Inquisitor can hug him at least once because I've wanted to ever since I read the book tbh >.>
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