I just caught up and saw the new screenshots.
He looks great but I think I will give him a headwear as soon as I acquire him. His face and complexion just make me uneasy. (It was intended I think, which is why I think he looks great, minus the hair). Like people are gross out by digital spiders, I think I don't stomach well sick/dead people faces 
But he really stole the spotlight in Asunder for me and I really want to find out what he is.
What if it was your little sister or brother or child that Cole came to visit? They're laying there in the dark, scared alone and wishing nothing else than not to be because they can't see past tomorrow. And then Cole shows up and tells them they don't have to worry about tomorrow and he can make it easy for them. Is it still a mercy killing? Suicide? Empathy very much does have its place. I just don't think it's with Cole.
That depends... is it the actual me we're talking about or my in-game character? Because I've had in-game characters who went on to make that dude who tried to kill me and all my friends my boyfriend... which would never happen in reality so...
But in all seriousness, it just so happens that I have a much younger brother. As much as the idea of him going through such a thing is horrible to contemplate, for the sake of trying to answer your question honestly I will. If he were ever to be taken from his home and locked away for something that's not his fault, and left there alone and starving and terrified because he doesn't know what's going to happen next, to the point where he'd express a desire to die, and is then killed by someone thinking he's doing him a favor...?
You're right, I would be horrified. But in all honesty, I would condemn those who took him away far more than that disturbed individual who honestly believed he was doing the right thing. The templars i would never forgive, regardless that it was supposedly 'their job,' especially since we know from Wynne's account of how she was brought to the tower, that it doesn't have to be like that. I would in fact feel empathy for a person like Cole (yes, I'm referring to him as a person, since we're talking real life scenarios), a victim of abuse and ptsd and god knows what else, even if he had killed someone dear to me. Would I become his best friend and let him follow me around? Absolutely not. But I would feel compassion for someone I feel is also a victim, and I would want him to get psychological help and would hope that he could heal and redeem himself.
I have a bit of a problem with the theory that the spirit Cole killed the boy Cole for the simple reason that if that turned out to be the truth I would consider it pretty poor writing. Cole, at that point, is talking to Lambert. Who he is about to kill, and has no reason to lie to. Why would he? To save face? To make himself look better? Why in the world does he care what Lambert thinks? It wouldn't make any sense. If he's already correcting Lambert's assumptions that there wasn't a Cole, ever, why not tell the full truth? Why say "I was helpless, I'm not helpless any longer" instead of "I killed him, like I will kill you now" or something to that effect? What he say may not explicitly spell out "Cole died of starvation/dehydration, but it does clearly spell out "Cole died after the templars forgot him, the spirit couldn't do anything but it stayed beside him when nobody else did". There are plenty of loopholes there for future surprise twists or reveals, but not "Cole was killed by the spirit".
But more than that, look at it from a writing perspective; this scene is coming at the end of the novel, and is very clearly meant to be the reveal about Cole and the full truth that we've been waiting for the whole novel. Or something. The point is, this scene is set up in such a way that it's telling the audience, here is a reveal, and by extension that it is true and real, because that's what a reveal is for. Fake reveals do exist, but a fake reveal at the very end of the book is pointless. Further, every novel assumes there is a certain amount of trust between the audience and the writer; there are certain rules about when to lie and when not to, otherwise readers could pick and choose about which parts of the novel they believe actually happened and which they pretend didn't. And at times when a reveal comes it is essentially the author telling the audience a new fact through a character. You except the writer to "tell" us the truth unless there are hints that the device the author uses could not be entirely reliable i.e. unless the character is establishes as a liar or if we're explicitly spelled out as experiencing the reveal scene from a skewed perspective. There is no hint, nothing in build-up, to imply that spirit Cole is lying. We are meant to accept the reveal as truth, because such is the build up to the scene, there is no reason for the character in question to lie and not within their established character, and we trust to author to make it possible to figure it out on our own that a certain statement that is seemingly fact may not be true by providing a hint. Cole lying, while possible, would be illogical and there is no hint towards it. If it turned out that he did, this would mean the author lied to us, by extension, and I daresay "tricked" us or "cheated", more maybe "broke the rules", so to speak. And that's poor writing.
Furthermore, if the spirit Cole lied, this also means that the rest of what it said could potentially be a lie as well. So we can't know how much of it is true and then we could disregard it entirely. Then what would be the point of the whole scene? To deliberately mislead the audience? Also pointless. Lying to keep the audience speculating and wondering about Cole's nature is totally unnecessary when there is already enough left to do that about, not to mention that it would not be very good character writing if we left the book knowing no more about Cole then we did at the start.
tl;dr it does not make sense for Cole's end speech to be a lie and if it were it would be a bad writing choice and that is what i wanted to say about that theory and why I don't even take it into consideration
Many mass murderers and killers feel remorse after though (or at least claim to.) It doesn't absolve them of the crime and it doesn't change the public's opinion of them.
To genuinely feel remorse, one has to understand the reasons why what they did was wrong, Cole didn't. He didn't have any concept of morality until Rhys teaches him later on.
A person who commits an atrocity and feels no remorse is irredeemable.
A person who commits an atrocity and feels remorse has a shot at redemption.
Which I think will factor into Cole's DAI arc.
Agreed.I know. Not really. I just miss Wynne
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Still don't care what it refers to itself as, though.
Now, if you'll all excuse me, I'm going to go into the Cullen thread and look at silly fan art. Or find pictures of cute baby animals. Or something. 
****'s getting too heavy in here...
*sigh*
So a bit of a time line:
As I recall, the mage imprisoned in the dungeons (where Cole dwells) were mostly children or teenagers, because they have just been taken from their parents to the Cicle or are terrified by the prospect of their Harrowing.
So there is no proof that anyone he killed were children? My mage in DAO was an apprentice. So I never considered her a child.
I don't remember exactly but he definitley killed apprentices or people recently taken to the Circle (so they can be pretty young).
Though maybe you don't want to be spoiled:
Whenever someone mentions Justice i think of this and i feel like its fairly appropriate. Cole is obviously a spirit of redemption he shall show the world that not all spirits are evvvviallll. Idk
I still think Cole was originally a Despair Demon
Tyrion the true Dwarf King of Orzammar
The Inquisitor
I just catch up and saw the new screenshots.
He looks great but I think I will give him a headwear as soon as I acquire him. His face and complexion just make me uneasy. (It was intended I think, which is why I think he looks great, minus the hair). Like people are gross out by digital spiders, I think I don't stomach well sick/dead people faces
But he really stole the spotlight in Asunder for me and I really want to find out what he is.
I already have plans to make him wear his big hat all game. Granted, it's not out of feeling uneasy about his appearance (I've seen worse) but because the hat looks so silly that he has to wear it now.
Ditto. When I heard the rumours of him possibly appearing in Inquisition, I was so excited. And now that he's definitely in it, I'm so happy. I really want to see how he's come along since the events of Asunder.
I still don't buy the 'friendly ghost' bit. If this predator can make you forget anything it wants and make itself invisible, then what's to stop it from constructing the fantasy that it's 'helping'?
"Hi Cole! Did you and my neph...hmph. Did you have a good time at the fair...all by...yourself...?"
Dude, If he really had ill intent he would not both being part of the inquisition. He's a guy who can turn invisible and make people forget him in a time where massive amounts of people are in despair. If he is even half the demon you think he is he would would be out in thedus gorging on the life energy of the despair and staying away from the inquisition not trying to join it.
Is he romanceable?
I still think Cole was originally a Despair Demon
Or a spirit of compassion/mercy.
Or a spirit of compassion/mercy.
That's what he could be turning into
That's what he could be turning into
I rather like this theory. We've had a spirit become, arguably, a demonic entity. Why not have a demon fight to become a spirit?
What if it was your little sister or brother or child that Cole came to visit? They're laying there in the dark, scared alone and wishing nothing else than not to be because they can't see past tomorrow. And then Cole shows up and tells them they don't have to worry about tomorrow and he can make it easy for them. Is it still a mercy killing? Suicide? Empathy very much does have its place. I just don't think it's with Cole.
You mean when I'm not more considered with what the templers are going to do to them? You are still not getting they allowed themselves to die of their own will.
I think any character who kills/has killed/caused the death of innocents is going to split the fanbase. Look at Anders, he is adored and vilified in equal measure.
It not the same thing with Anders. The hate for Anders is more that he mucked thing up for the player character. With Cole he only killed the willing.
Yeah, I'm wondering if Cole is going to be the opposite example of Anders, where instead of a spirit being influenced into becoming a demon (Justice into Vengeance) it's going to be a demon being influenced into becoming a spirit.
Though in Cole's case he might actually be evolving past being a demon/spirit.
Anyways, what does everyone think everyone's reaction to Cole will be. Of course it's going to be based on if everyone knows what he is initially. I'm just going to do those that we have information on so far.
Vivienne: Thinks the worst of him since he is a demon and will try to avoid him. I think she might be curious about him as well and may try to learn things about him. She can grow to have respect for him but he'll probably also drive her crazy as well with his shenanigans.
Cassandra: She might be a bit wary of him at first but will probably grow to like him since he wants to do good. I can see her being driven crazy from Cole's more crazy shenanigans and questions.
Varric: He'll be a bit wary of him and a bit distrustful of him due to Anders actions at the end of DA2 but will end up liking him and teaching him things. I can see Varric encouraging his shenanigans and convincing Cole to spy on the Inquisitor and everyone in their downtime and telling him about it so he can use it for his stories. lol
Blackwall: He'll probably be more supportive of Cole and be a father figure/big brother to him I think.
Ironbull: He'll probably bit a bit wary of Cole due to his fear of demons but he'll quickly grow to like him once he's on the team. He'll probably also enjoy Cole's shenanigans and encourage them as well. I can see him trying to get Cole to indulge in some things like drinking and women with Cole being clueless and not understanding. I can see Varric and Ironbull being conflicted over this with Varric not wanting to have Cole due something like that.
Sera: She'll pretty much be against Cole being in the Inquisition probably because he is a demon but I can see Cole growing on her. I can see him supporting a lot of the same things Sera does and I can see her starting to think more of him because of it.
Dorian: I can see him having an academic interest in Cole and will probably ask him a lot of questions. He'll probably also try to educate Cole on humanity and such.
Yeah, I'm wondering if Cole is going to be the opposite example of Anders, where instead of a spirit being influenced into becoming a demon (Justice into Vengeance) it's going to be a demon being influenced into becoming a spirit.
Though in Cole's case he might actually be evolving past being a demon/spirit.
Anyways, what does everyone think everyone's reaction to Cole will be. Of course it's going to be based on if everyone knows what he is initially. I'm just going to do those that we have information on so far.
Vivienne: Thinks the worst of him since he is a demon and will try to avoid him. I think she might be curious about him as well and may try to learn things about him. She can grow to have respect for him but he'll probably also drive her crazy as well with his shenanigans.
Cassandra: She might be a bit wary of him at first but will probably grow to like him since he wants to do good. I can see her being driven crazy from Cole's more crazy shenanigans and questions.
Varric: He'll be a bit wary of him and a bit distrustful of him due to Anders actions at the end of DA2 but will end up liking him and teaching him things. I can see Varric encouraging his shenanigans and convincing Cole to spy on the Inquisitor and everyone in their downtime and telling him about it so he can use it for his stories. lol
Blackwall: He'll probably be more supportive of Cole and be a father figure/big brother to him I think.
Ironbull: He'll probably bit a bit wary of Cole due to his fear of demons but he'll quickly grow to like him once he's on the team. He'll probably also enjoy Cole's shenanigans and encourage them as well. I can see him trying to get Cole to indulge in some things like drinking and women with Cole being clueless and not understanding. I can see Varric and Ironbull being conflicted over this with Varric not wanting to have Cole due something like that.
Sera: She'll pretty much be against Cole being in the Inquisition probably because he is a demon but I can see Cole growing on her. I can see him supporting a lot of the same things Sera does and I can see her starting to think more of him because of it.
Dorian: I can see him having an academic interest in Cole and will probably ask him a lot of questions. He'll probably also try to educate Cole on humanity and such.
Ahem you didn't mention Solas 
....which I'm sure since he is a fade expert he will be asking Cole a lot of questions,I think they will get along just fine.
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