Sounds like something he should wear for the Orlesian ball. That is if you get him before then.
I think of Cole as one of those kids that doesn't like a lot of people around. Plus, I don't think he is very good at the game (then again I could be wrong).
I don't plan on it. That's Cole's job.
(I love using this GIF.)
Anything that involves that amazing hat.
The hat is mandatory for me. I was on facebook chat with one of my friends who complained about his Ridiculous Hat. Thanks to her, I am going to make him wear that hat all game just to frustrate her whenever she plays the game with me. (Also because that hat is amazing and I don't care who says otherwise 
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All depends on where I'm traveling to I suppose. No way I'm going to let that boy run around in the desert while wearing heavy snow gear/coats. Though I plan to stay far away from the deserty areas the best I can in game (deserts are my least favorite things in games, I live in one)
Light colors though. I don't want him in dark dank clothing, I kinda like how the default picture they had (even with the temp textures) him in a light color. I adore the hat so I'll probably give him one, mainly just to protect him from the sun to keep away sun burn.
Also, DG isn't in control of Cole anymore, and it reminds me of something they said before on 'context'. Gaider is talking about Asunder Cole, and while he is lead writer for the game it's possible that the way PW goes about with Cole could allow for a different development and growth. I highly doubt Cole is going to stay childlike forever.
I assumed it'd be more like "O_O I don't get it" above all else to the point where the flirter just gives up and finds somebody willing.
Edit: As in the concept of things like flirting and romance/sex/etc. would literally be foreign to him, and if you tried to explain, it would just confuse him more because it's just such an alien concept.
I tried looking up the scene from Digimon season 3 where Calumon watches a couple kissing and just walks up to them and is like "WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING IF YOU ARE TRYING TO EAT HER YOu'LL HAVE TO OPEN UP YOUR MOUTH WAY MORE!" but youtube is awful and all I can find is weird AMVs and badly drawn digimon fan characters. 
Ah well, never mind. It's funny and relevant I promise!
Asexual biromantic (perhaps panromantic would be a better term?) sounds lovely. The closest I've ever written a character like that is having one that was a panromantic grey-asexual. (So close, but not exact...) Just a cute chaste romance built on friendship and mutual respect would be nice, though I'd be happy just being his friend. The Dragon Age romances always end in the player and LI banging, and as a result it can be a bit frustrating, especially as it's not optional. So Cole would be an ideal choice as I don't think he'd have those feelings for anyone regardless of romanicibility.
(Also I don't think Cole knows where babies come from anyway)
Edit: I can just imagine Isabela and Zevran trying to flirt with Cole only for all of it to fly over Cole's head, because he'd take their innuendos literally. Cue Zevran and Isabela drinking in the corner.
And no, Sebastian doesn't count. He used to be quite the womaniser, but changed his ways because of the Chantry. Also, in a rivalry-romance, it implies that he's going to break those vows soon for you, so no, he doesn't count at all.
Also he was an awful romance imo shhh
Edit 2: I'm stuck for whether I'm okay with him being romancible or not now. Before I was firmly on the "nope no romance" train, but after considering the possiblity of a asexual chaste romance... hmm. I really doubt it'll ever happen though, considering... y'know.
Ah, yes panromantic would be better.
I think the only way to make it okay is if he has "grown up" since Asunder. There is really no saying he can't, as he isn't human. He's a fade spirit/demon. But also only if it was asexual, as I still think it would make me uncomfortable if there was a sex scene even if he was more mature. But 100% it wont happen and I really doubt there would ever be an asexual romance. A lot of people still can't even seem to accept bisexual romances... 
As long as I can replace those ankle-revealing trousers and those silly little shoes, I'll be happy.
Oh and the hat is a keeper.
Yeah poor Cole. Aren't there socks/hose in Thedas?
So ... I'm curious. To those of you on this thread (I'm mostly directing this at a certain poster, but anyone who might wander in here who really doesn't like Cole or trust his intentions, or believes him an evil demon incapable of redemption), I have a question:
What do you intend to do with him when you meet him in the game?
The way I see it, you have four options (assuming you're playing a 'good' character,' and not intentionally trying to make him go evil):
1. You kill/banish him immediately (since in your opinion he's obviously dangerous)
2. You say 'thanks, but no thanks' and let him be on his way (not sure why you'd do this, but... it's an option)
3. You recruit him, and then treat him with cruelty and disrespect and intentionally antagonize him
4. You recruit him and befriend him, treat him with kindness and respect, and allow him to help as he claims to want to do
The fourth one, of course, gives his character the best chance to prove you wrong... And what then? If he actually turns out to be a truly benevolent entity in the game, will you accept it? Or will you continue to insist that Cole is lying and being manipulative?
What I'm really wondering is, at what point are you willing to trust the writers' intention over your own interpretation of the character?
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So ... I'm curious. To those of you on this thread (I'm mostly directing this at a certain poster, but anyone who might wander in here who really doesn't like Cole or trust his intentions, or believes him an evil demon incapable of redemption), I have a question:
Sounds crazy but I'm planning to do a mock playthrough maybe 1st or 2nd, and I'll be very nice to Cole and go along with it (because I can't shake the feeling somethings going to go wrong) and see what happens. If the storyline is good, he'll stick around probably for future playthroughs 
But that thing DG said when that 'hug' picture of Scribbles was posted really worried me (I was worried before lol).
Sounds crazy but I'm planning to do a mock playthrough maybe 1st or 2nd, and I'll be very nice to Cole and go along with it (because I can't shake the feeling somethings going to go wrong) and see what happens. If the storyline is good, he'll stick around probably for future playthroughs
See, I can certainly understand not trusting him initially, what with his past and what he is/could be. But at least you're willing to keep an open mind and give him a shot. That i can respect
It's just the other posters (again, there's a specific one I was thinking of when I phrased the question) on here that seem to have already made up their minds that I wonder about...
I agree there's a chance Cole could betray us. But of course, I hope that's not the case. Or I should say, i hope it's not the case if we try to guide him on the right path, and do things that agree with his (apparent) new found desire to do good.
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I'm just worried it might too *too obvious* to be nice to him...without something happening. Bioware loves that.
I was all moral and happy to help mages and templars in DA2 and then Anders did the thing and Meredith did the thing and I'm all
I think everyone of the companions are capable of betraying you depending on your choices and actions. I remember during one of the demos they showed (one of the earlier ones with Varric Cass and Vivianne and the templars attacking a town) the person presenting mentioned you could ****** off Varric a lot and have him not agree with your choices to the exteram or something like that. What I took from that was, if you conflict with the character enough then you can have them 'betray' you the same way other characters in Origins did where they left or even attacked you.
I don't think Cole would be an attacker type, rather he would just vanish and just leave. He doesn't have to fight, he has an advantage of the invisibility thing.
Though I have no idea why people think Cole is attacking in that Scribbles picture. It doesn't look like he can logically stab a person if his arms are up over her shoulders. My vote is still too he's defending her.
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So here is the thing: I really want to romance Cole. Before any of you jump down my throat and tell me to read Asunder - I've read it. (I LOVED it.)
The thing is, when I say "romance" I am not talking about sex. In my humblest opinion I wish they'd eliminate the whole sex aspect of romances in DA. I don't think romance needs to lead to sex (in a video game). I'm not trying to sound like a prude - that's not it. I guess, as far as Dragon Age is concerned (vs. The Witcher), the sex feels superfluous to the overall game.
Anyway, I want my PC and Cole to fall in love. That's what I mean. Just the love part. It could be just friend-love, I guess, but I want it to be closer than even that. Romantic love. I can't call it any other thing. Maybe I'm thinking of the word "romantic" in the strictest definition - to be adventurous.
Really, I think the Scribbles picture could be anything. Are we even sure the mop of blonde hair is Cole? I just don't think we can see enough of the image to really guess what's happening. Though it's hard not speculate...
So ... I'm curious. To those of you on this thread (I'm mostly directing this at a certain poster, but anyone who might wander in here who really doesn't like Cole or trust his intentions, or believes him an evil demon incapable of redemption), I have a question:
What do you intend to do with him when you meet him in the game?
The way I see it, you have four options (assuming you're playing a 'good' character,' and not intentionally trying to make him go evil):
1. You kill/banish him immediately (since in your opinion he's obviously dangerous)
2. You say 'thanks, but no thanks' and let him be on his way (not sure why you'd do this, but... it's an option)
3. You recruit him, and then treat him with cruelty and disrespect and intentionally antagonize him
4. You recruit him and befriend him, treat him with kindness and respect, and allow him to help as he claims to want to do
The fourth one, of course, gives his character the best chance to prove you wrong... And what then? If he actually turns out to be a truly benevolent entity in the game, will you accept it? Or will you continue to insist that Cole is lying and being manipulative?
What I'm really wondering is, at what point are you willing to trust the writers' intention over your own interpretation of the character?
I always play it nice. The Inquisitor doesn't know Cole from the man on the moon and as such, like any potential party member, the Inquisitor will likely welcome a potential ally. Of course that largely depends on the circumstances. If, over time, it becomes clear that Cole is what I think it is, which I'm sure will involve some awful choice, then it probably will be put down. If it turns out that friendship really is magic and now the child killer has become a paragon of cuddliness as so many of its supporters seem to think....I'll still probably put it down.
Really it comes down to how much weight its past (or probably current) homicidal tendencies are given in the game, I think. For example the situation with Sten. Sten murdered a family. But after you finish his companion quest the incident is almost never acknowledged again except in a conversation with Alistair. That was a missed opportunity, I think, to flesh out that characters narrative. However, because the transgression was handled in what amounts to a hand wave, many fans of the game, myself included, became quite fond of Sten.
The same could, and I'll acknowledge probably will, happen with Cole's transgressions. However I think about Cole, if in the game it is nothing but noble, then it will be a welcome companion. Still, I will say, as I've said before, if the Cole in the game is nothing but noble, then the game Cole is an entirely different character than Cole from Asunder. Not an extension, evolution, or any other version of the Cole from the book, but entirely a different entity that shares only the name. Asunder Cole is a homicidal maniac that specializes in murdering trapped, traumatized, and helpless children at the end of their whits.
If that fact is given the proper amount of weight in game, I think many of its supporters will come around to my way of thinking. It, Asunder Cole at least, should be put down.
Really, I think the Scribbles picture could be anything. Are we even sure the mop of blonde hair is Cole? I just don't think we can see enough of the image to really guess what's happening. Though it's hard not speculate...
The sort of shoulder cloak thing going on is the same color and sort of design as the one that Cole is wearing at the Inquisitors table scene thing. And Coles so far the only character who got away with that long of hair.
Thought I might drop some banter I came up with in the Solas thread. It has a little of how I think Cole will interact wit other companions
Solas/Cole/Sera banter:
Sera: So Solas I hear you're a fade expert?
Solas: I do extended studies on the fade if that is what you mean. Why so curious?
Sera: Can you tell me then why Cole is so annoying. "It" is starting to get on my nerves.
Cole: What did I ever do to you?
Solas: *in a defensive tone* Well maybe it is because someone of little knowledge on his character is criticizing his prescence.
Sera: Did not expect you to have any backbone. You win this time.
Solas: And I did not expect you to give up so easily. It seems we are both surprised.
Cassandra/Cole/Solas:
Solas: So Cassandra since you used to be part of the Seekers before you joined the Inquisition, Chantry ideals must have affected you in some way. Am I wrong to assume this?
Cassandra: No. You are not wrong. If it was not for the Seekers I would not know where I would be now.
Solas: Would you say that this affects your views on Cole. I doubt the Chantry supports working with someone of who for all we know could be a demon.
Cassandra: Yes the Chantry has us claim that demons are to always be turned away.
Solas: So why are you excusing Cole?
Cassandra: I am no fool Solas. I will be mindful, but the inquisitor trusts that he has good intentions and I do not think the Inquisition is in any position to turn away from help when it is offered. These are dire times. I will give him the benefit of the doubt until he shows any signs that he will be trouble.
Cole: Thanks Cassandra. I will try my best to do as much good as I can.
Solas: That is a commendable and rational way of thinking unlike some of these people that have joined our cause.
Cassandra: Do not remind me. A day hasn't gone by when Sera has not flirted with me and Vivienne or Dorian are telling me to find better clothes.
Solas: I agree it is as if they have nothing else to talk about. Shall we return to the task at hand then?
Cassandra: Yes I agree.
So far as the writers intentions, I think they intend to entertain us. Often that involves misdirection.
Asunder Cole is a homicidal maniac that specializes in murdering trapped, traumatized, and helpless children at the end of their whits.
You keep saying this like it's a fact, but it seems to me you are one of very few who interpret the character this way. I mean, i read the same book, and I really don't think that's what David Gaider intended us to see. It's certainly not what i saw, nor is it what most others who read the book saw. I guess it would take confirmation from Gaider himself for us to know for sure, but in the meantime I can only go by what I read. And that's not it.
Also, in regards to this:
"If it turns out that friendship really is magic and now the child killer has become a paragon of cuddliness as so many of its supporters seem to think....I'll still probably put it down." Ummm... why? And, more to the point, how can you claim to be any better than he is, morally, if you do?
I don't think the events of Asunder will come up much other than the mages breaking away from the Chantry and the Templars breaking away to stop the mages. Besides the fact that not everyone, in fact probably only a relatively small percentage, of players have not read that book, it also can go against the canon of some players. For example, those who didn't awaken Shale or killed Wynne.
The sort of shoulder cloak thing going on is the same color and sort of design as the one that Cole is wearing at the Inquisitors table scene thing. And Coles so far the only character who got away with that long of hair.
I do see why it could be him, I just think we see too little of the image to guess... Hence the it could be a hug/Cole killing Scribbles/Cole saving Scribble/someone who isn't Cole doing none of the above 
Don't get me wrong - speculation is fun. I just don't think we have enough info here.
You keep saying this like it's a fact, but it seems to me you are one of very few who interpret the character this way. I mean, i read the same book, and I really don't think that's what David Gaider intended us to see. It's certainly not what i saw, nor is it what most others who read the book saw. I guess it would take confirmation from Gaider himself for us to know for sure, but in the meantime I can only go by what I read. And that's not it.
Also, in regards to this:
"If it turns out that friendship really is magic and now the child killer has become a paragon of cuddliness as so many of its supporters seem to think....I'll still probably put it down." Ummm... why? And, more to the point, how can you claim to be any better than he is, morally, if you do?
I keep addressing it as fact because in Asunder it did in fact kill children. One of the murders is described in detail in pages 18-22 of the book.
I keep addressing it as fact because in Asunder it did in fact kill children. One of the murders is described in detail in pages 18-22 of the book.
It never says child, it only says girl. I'm referred to as a girl even though I'm 25. I'm curious though about your opinion: she killed her family, does that affect your opinion of Cole at all? He killed her for arguably selfish reasons, but she is also a killer herself, regardless if she is a child like you think or not.
I keep addressing it as fact because in Asunder it it did in fact kill children. One of the murders is described in detail in pages 18-22 of the book.
He does not "in fact" kill children. Not once does it state in the book that those he killed are children. We only actually see one of his murders take place, and the description of her is left vague. I would go on to say that from what I read in the book, they weren't children, because I would think at least one character in the book talking about the murders would mention the horror of the murder victims being children. And yet, not one of them point that out. I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's because they weren't.
And even if they were, and I've said this before, the Cole that committed those murders did not yet understand the difference between right and wrong. It would be like condemning a three year old, left to its own devices and taught nothing about what it means to respect life, for killing something.
I do see why it could be him, I just think we see too little of the image to guess... Hence the it could be a hug/Cole killing Scribbles/Cole saving Scribble/someone who isn't Cole doing none of the above
There hasn't been a lot of blond wearing a dusty red cloak seen as of yet other than Cole, and Gaider did pop in earlier when that concept art was pop'd up and did an evil laugh. I don't see who else it could be, but yeah that's what this thread is mainly for, discussion and speculation XD The context of the image is a complete mystery, but people are all piled up thinking he's attacking her.
Also I wouldn't bother trying with Fort, they repeat the same thing over and over and doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of something new to talk about with Cole. I swear this 'child killer' thing is getting to silly levels on how they're insistent on it and has brought it up at least four times now.
Actually, lets take this a step back. What language did you read Asunder in? I'm curious if there's some sort of breakdown in communication or something. It's never implied that Cole kills children in the English version.
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