all true. But perhaps eva isnt so bad.. foolish yes but her heart was in the right place (not excusing) fiona could did her seccession(spelling?) More moderatly, divine yeah no idea on her line of thought
Agreed. Eva is a good person, she's just a terrible Templar.
Agreed. Eva is a good person, she's just a terrible Templar.
Horrible Templar.
On an entirely unrelated side note:
@The Elder King: is that avatar of yours the MC from the announced Persona 5? :3
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Or a good templar. IMO she stuck to the on paper ideals of the order. As the pirate from pirites of the carribean
"There more like guidelines"
No, have to disagree here. Nowhere does it say "Taking up arms on the behalf of mage freedom" is something any good Templar should do.
She is literally going AGAINST everything the Templar order stands for.
Or a good templar. IMO she stuck to the on paper ideals of the order.
The purpose of the Templar Order isn't to aid them in armed insurrection.
The purpose of the Templar Order isn't to aid them in armed insurrection.
oh dear it appears i left out somethings. I meant that while is is a good templar(morally) she went off the reservation when she aided a revolt and violent revolution. Apologies for thatNo, have to disagree here. Nowhere does it say "Taking up arms on the behalf of mage freedom" is something any good Templar should do. She is literally going AGAINST everything the Templar order stands for.
The purpose of the Templar Order isn't to aid them in armed insurrection.
And the purpose of the Templar Order is also about protecting those innocent mages, which they failed terribly.
And the purpose of the Templar Order is also about protecting those innocent mages
Which they succeeded in astonishingly enough.
I mean two annulments, a city blown up by mages and yet no one was marching into the circles with pitch forks and torches.
.-. Things more or less went on as normal, aka the only dangers mages face comes from their own stupidity.
Which they succeeded in astonishingly enough.
I mean two annulments, a city blown up by mages and yet no one was marching into the circles with pitch forks and torches.
.-. Things more or less went on as normal, aka the only dangers mages face comes from their own stupidity.
What they did to Cole?
What they did to those desperate mages?
If there was no bloodshed, why people revolt?
"succeeded in astonishingly enough" can't just coming so naturally.
what happened to the original cole shouldnt have happened but in fairness nobody knew...What they did to Cole? What they did to those desperate mages? If there was no bloodshed, why people revolt? "succeeded in astonishingly enough" can't just coming so naturally.
What they did to Cole?
Do we even have an indicator that actually ever happened?
I mean beyond the scattered memories which could have come from anywhere, i mean last i heard.
You don't support the idea of him being an abomination, so where would a spirit get those memories unless if it created them?
Beyond that? It happened so long ago it isn't relevant to the topic, which was Mage safety after the idiocy of Kirkwall.
What they did to Cole?
What they did to those desperate mages?
If there was no bloodshed, why people revolt?
"succeeded in astonishingly enough" can't just coming so naturally.
All of that happened before Lambert arrived and cleaned house.
The only innocent mages to die under Lambert's management of the templars were those killed at the conclave. Those lives are on Fiona, The Divine's, and Adrian's heads.
I'm so happy the Divine is going to go Kaboom.
I'd say Adrian and the Divine were more relevant then Fiona. Without Adrian's actions Wynne would've lead the mages to vote against the proposal.
I agree. Fiona was also stirring the pot though, it wasn't her first attempt and even if she'd failed she would have kept trying.
She wouldn't have succeeded without the others but her hands aren't totally clean either.
I'm so happy the Divine is going to go Kaboom.
I partially agree, but even if she didn't start talking about the rebellion, the situation would've been the same. Lambert would've interrupted the meeting to take Rhys, and the mage would've rebelled.I agree. Fiona was also stirring the pot though, it wasn't her first attempt and even if she'd failed she would have kept trying.
She wouldn't have succeeded without the others but her hands aren't totally clean either.
Do we even have an indicator that actually ever happened?
I mean beyond the scattered memories which could have come from anywhere, i mean last i heard.
You don't support the idea of him being an abomination, so where would a spirit get those memories unless if it created them?
Beyond that? It happened so long ago it isn't relevant to the topic, which was Mage safety after the idiocy of Kirkwall.
You've been in this grid for too long, it slaved you, it made you selectively ignored so many important facts. why? to kill the time.
All of that happened before Lambert arrived and cleaned house.
The only innocent mages to die under Lambert's management of the templars were those killed at the conclave. Those lives are on Fiona, The Divine's, and Adrian's heads.
I'm not blaming someone, but things happened for a reason.
I partially agree, but even if she didn't start talking about the rebellion, the situation would've been the same. Lambert would've interrupted the meeting to take Rhys, and the mage would've rebelled.
True, but then those mages would have ceased to be innocent. Rhys was the most likely (if not the only) suspect for the murders. If the mages had prevented Lambert from doing his duty then they wouldn't be innocent anymore.
True, but then those mages would have ceased to be innocent. Rhys was the most likely (if not the only) suspect for the murders. If the mages had prevented Lambert from doing his duty then they wouldn't be innocent anymore.
Pretty much.
You cannot claim to be a non combatant when you pick up a rifle and shoot at a soldier.
Reminder that this is the Cole thread. Not the Asunder or Mages vs. Templar conflict thread. While things can kind of be relevant, let's stay more on topic.
Query: how did cole get the orignal coles memories if he's a spirit, only way i know to do that is possesion
He may have absorbed them when he killed the original Cole. We know he possesses some incredibly powerful blood magic. Maybe you can absorb memories through blood?
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